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Dec 21st, 2010 at 4:46am
 
The Victorian election was held 27th Nov 2010 and the former ALP Premier John Brumby contested that trying to convince the Victorian people that he was going to lead the State for the next 4 years.
It is history now that Brumby lost the election, but now less than a month after losing the election Brumby doesn't want to be leader of the Opposition, and doesn't even want to be in State politics at all.
Rather than resign his position prior to the election Brumby has chosen instead to resign after the election, meaning another election (bi) is required and will also mean wasting more of Victoria's money.

Way to go, a wasted spender all the way to the grave!L
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Reply #1 - Dec 21st, 2010 at 4:55am
 
Miss Anne Dryst wrote on Dec 21st, 2010 at 4:46am:
The Victorian election was held 27th Nov 2010 and the former ALP Premier John Brumby contested that trying to convince the Victorian people that he was going to lead the State for the next 4 years.
It is history now that Brumby lost the election, but now less than a month after losing the election Brumby doesn't want to be leader of the Opposition, and doesn't even want to be in State politics at all.
Rather than resign his position prior to the election Brumby has chosen instead to resign after the election, meaning another election (bi) is required and will also mean wasting more of Victoria's money.

Way to go, a wasted spender all the way to the grave!



Was it alright for the raft of liberals members to resign after the 2007 federal election?

That is why there should be a law that the next candidate in the poll takes the seat.
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Reply #2 - Dec 21st, 2010 at 4:59am
 
When did the liberals resign after the 2007 election?
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Reply #3 - Dec 21st, 2010 at 5:02am
 
John S wrote on Dec 21st, 2010 at 4:55am:
Miss Anne Dryst wrote on Dec 21st, 2010 at 4:46am:
The Victorian election was held 27th Nov 2010 and the former ALP Premier John Brumby contested that trying to convince the Victorian people that he was going to lead the State for the next 4 years.
It is history now that Brumby lost the election, but now less than a month after losing the election Brumby doesn't want to be leader of the Opposition, and doesn't even want to be in State politics at all.
Rather than resign his position prior to the election Brumby has chosen instead to resign after the election, meaning another election (bi) is required and will also mean wasting more of Victoria's money.

Way to go, a wasted spender all the way to the grave!



Was it alright for the raft of liberals members to resign after the 2007 federal election?

That is why there should be a law that the next candidate in the poll thats the seat.




that is true of course... once they choose to run and get elected they stay the distance.. bugger them..


as for the raft of Libs.. who resigned within a month of the election?????


why cant you answer a question on the wrongs of the ALP.. without bringing the Libs into it???????

two wrongs dont make a right.. unless your left of course..lol.. thats a joke.for you jack in case you miss the point..


at least missy the NSW mob are getting out before the election...not sure what that says about the govt they have been running!!!!!!!!!!.

can only assume they cant stand the smell either..
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Reply #4 - Dec 21st, 2010 at 5:11am
 
Miss Anne Dryst wrote on Dec 21st, 2010 at 4:59am:
When did the liberals resign after the 2007 election?



Downer, Costello, Nelson to name a couple.

I bet there was more as well.

it happens after every goverment loses the election.
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Reply #5 - Dec 21st, 2010 at 5:22am
 
John S wrote on Dec 21st, 2010 at 5:11am:
Miss Anne Dryst wrote on Dec 21st, 2010 at 4:59am:
When did the liberals resign after the 2007 election?



Downer, Costello, Nelson to name a couple.

I bet there was more as well.

it happens after every goverment loses the election.




When did they resign?
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Reply #6 - Dec 21st, 2010 at 5:28am
 
John S wrote on Dec 21st, 2010 at 5:11am:
Miss Anne Dryst wrote on Dec 21st, 2010 at 4:59am:
When did the liberals resign after the 2007 election?



Downer, Costello, Nelson to name a couple.

I bet there was more as well.

it happens after every goverment loses the election.





within a month I dont think sooooooooooooooooooooooooo
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Reply #7 - Dec 21st, 2010 at 5:44am
 
Miss Anne Dryst wrote on Dec 21st, 2010 at 5:22am:
John S wrote on Dec 21st, 2010 at 5:11am:
Miss Anne Dryst wrote on Dec 21st, 2010 at 4:59am:
When did the liberals resign after the 2007 election?



Downer, Costello, Nelson to name a couple.

I bet there was more as well.

it happens after every goverment loses the election.




When did they resign?



They were elected to run for the full team. Not to jump ship half way through.

I don't care if it is Liberal or Labor member they should go for the full team or the person that come second in the ballot takes their place.

Then there wouldn't be any bi-elections.
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Reply #8 - Dec 21st, 2010 at 6:17am
 
codswal wrote on Dec 21st, 2010 at 5:28am:
John S wrote on Dec 21st, 2010 at 5:11am:
Miss Anne Dryst wrote on Dec 21st, 2010 at 4:59am:
When did the liberals resign after the 2007 election?



Downer, Costello, Nelson to name a couple.

I bet there was more as well.

it happens after every goverment loses the election.





within a month I dont think sooooooooooooooooooooooooo




That's right codswal.
Else I would have mentioned how Steve Bracks jumped shipped, but that isn't the point.

John Brumby pre-election promise was to see out the full term.
But because he lost the election he has spat the dummy and resigned - within a month.
Forcing taxpayers to fork out more money.
The cost of the bi-election should be deducted from Brumby's payout.
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Reply #9 - Dec 21st, 2010 at 6:57am
 
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I don't care if it is Liberal or Labor member they should go for the full team or the person that come second in the ballot takes their place.

Then there wouldn't be any bi-elections.







I would support a casual vacancy in lower house being replaced by a person nominated by the party of the incubent

The electorated VOTED for that party to represent them for the ENTIRE term at the last election

Why the need for a byelection ?

This protocol has served us well in UPPER houses




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Reply #10 - Dec 21st, 2010 at 7:02am
 
Miss Anne Dryst wrote on Dec 21st, 2010 at 5:22am:
John S wrote on Dec 21st, 2010 at 5:11am:
Miss Anne Dryst wrote on Dec 21st, 2010 at 4:59am:
When did the liberals resign after the 2007 election?



Downer, Costello, Nelson to name a couple.

I bet there was more as well.

it happens after every goverment loses the election.




When did they resign?


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Peter Howard Costello (born 14 August 1957) is an Australian lawyer and former politician. Elected to the seat of Higgins in 1990, he was Deputy Leader of the Liberal Party from 1994 to 2007, and served as Treasurer of Australia from 1996 to 2007, making him the longest serving treasurer in Australian history.

On 18 September 2008, Costello was appointed to the World Bank’s new Independent Advisory Board (IAB), which will provide advice on anti-corruption measures.

Costello resigned from parliament in October 2009, triggering the 2009 Higgins by-election.


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Dr Brendan John Nelson....on 25 August 2009 he announced his retirement from politics, sparking a 2009 Bradfield by-election.


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Following the Howard Government's defeat at the 2007 federal election, Downer declined to serve on the Opposition frontbench, amid widespread speculation that he would resign his seat and seek new employment. He informed colleagues in May 2008 that he was considering staying in politics with a view to becoming shadow treasurer under either Brendan Nelson or Malcolm Turnbull. but he subsequently resigned from Parliament on 14 July 2008. His resignation triggered a by-election in the seat of Mayo.


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So is it alright for Liberals members to resign mid team but labor members can't.

The person that come second in the ballot should takes their place.
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Reply #11 - Dec 21st, 2010 at 7:08am
 
So Alexander Downer resigned 7-8 months after the election.
Brendan Nelson resigned 21 months after the election.
Peter Costello resigned 23 months after the election.



And you wish to compare that with John Brumby resigning 3-4 weeks after the election.

You really have missed the point haven't you.

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Reply #12 - Dec 21st, 2010 at 7:10am
 
Miss Anne Dryst wrote on Dec 21st, 2010 at 7:08am:
So Alexander Downer resigned 7-8 months after the election.
Brendan Nelson resigned 21 months after the election.
Peter Costello resigned 23 months after the election.



And you wish to compare that with John Brumby resigning 3-4 weeks after the election.

You really have missed the point haven't you.




Or, Alexander Downer resigned 27-28 months before the election.
Brendan Nelson resigned 15 months before the election.
Peter Costello resigned 13 months before the election.


Compared to John Brumby resigning 3 years 11 months before the election!



Hardly a mid term resignation at all.
It is a blatant dummy spit.
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Reply #13 - Dec 21st, 2010 at 7:21am
 
Malcolm Fraser resighned from the leadership - and the parliament -
ON THE NIGHT
he lost to the Hawke Government

But the timing is irrelevent

A byelection, sooner or later, occurs regarless
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Reply #14 - Dec 21st, 2010 at 7:25am
 
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Mcgauran, Vaile, Downer, Costello, Nelson.

Downers' was perhaps the most "controversial", since he stated that he had been thinking about it for a long time - which begged the question of why he stood in November 2007.

Vaile was replaced by Oakeshott.
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Reply #15 - Dec 21st, 2010 at 7:30am
 
I wonder if the fact that the Liberal Party and Malcolm Fraser had a falling out had anything to do with Malcolm Fraser's resignation.


And still the champagne socialist doesn't get it.

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Reply #16 - Dec 21st, 2010 at 7:36am
 
Miss Anne Dryst wrote on Dec 21st, 2010 at 7:10am:
Miss Anne Dryst wrote on Dec 21st, 2010 at 7:08am:
So Alexander Downer resigned 7-8 months after the election.
Brendan Nelson resigned 21 months after the election.
Peter Costello resigned 23 months after the election.



And you wish to compare that with John Brumby resigning 3-4 weeks after the election.

You really have missed the point haven't you.




Or, Alexander Downer resigned 27-28 months before the election.
Brendan Nelson resigned 15 months before the election.
Peter Costello resigned 13 months before the election.


Compared to John Brumby resigning 3 years 11 months before the election!



Hardly a mid term resignation at all.
It is a blatant dummy spit.



It is not a dummy spit I think there should be a system in place that if a member of parliament resign for any reason, if it one month after an election or six months before an election, there should be a better way then having a bi-election.

The only reason there should be a bi-election if the member dies in office.

Other thing they should do if they announce they are not standing for a up comming election they should resign straight away
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Reply #17 - Dec 21st, 2010 at 7:40am
 
Miss Anne Dryst wrote on Dec 21st, 2010 at 7:30am:
I wonder if the fact that the Liberal Party and Malcolm Fraser had a falling out had anything to do with Malcolm Fraser's resignation.


And still the champagne socialist doesn't get it.






I wasn't talking about his recent resignation from th PARTY, you
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He
resigned from the PARLIAMENT
the night he lost the election to Hawke





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Reply #18 - Dec 21st, 2010 at 7:47am
 
buzzanddidj wrote on Dec 21st, 2010 at 7:21am:
Malcolm Fraser resighned from the leadership - and the parliament -
ON THE NIGHT
he lost to the Hawke Government

But the timing is irrelevent

A byelection, sooner or later, occurs regarless



Bob Hawke resign just after he lost the prime ministership and Paul Keating resign just after he lost election in 1996

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At a second challenge, on 20 December 1991, Keating defeated Hawke in a party-room ballot, 56 votes to 51. Hawke resigned from Parliament on 20 February 1992[58], sparking the 1992 Wills by-election, which was won by independent Phil Cleary from a record field of 22 candidates.


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Reply #19 - Dec 21st, 2010 at 7:57am
 
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Mcgauran, Vaile, Downer, Costello, Nelson.

Downers' was perhaps the most "controversial", since he stated that he had been thinking about it for a long time - which begged the question of why he stood in November 2007.

Vaile was replaced by Oakeshott.



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Reply #20 - Dec 21st, 2010 at 7:58am
 
Miss Anne Dryst wrote on Dec 21st, 2010 at 7:30am:
I wonder if the fact that the Liberal Party and Malcolm Fraser had a falling out had anything to do with Malcolm Fraser's resignation.


And still the champagne socialist doesn't get it.



They all seem very slow on the uptake.
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Reply #21 - Dec 21st, 2010 at 8:04am
 
aussiefree2ride wrote on Dec 21st, 2010 at 7:58am:
Miss Anne Dryst wrote on Dec 21st, 2010 at 7:30am:
I wonder if the fact that the Liberal Party and Malcolm Fraser had a falling out had anything to do with Malcolm Fraser's resignation.


And still the champagne socialist doesn't get it.



They all seem very slow on the uptake.

Fraser resigned because he hated Howard for turning the Liberal party into the xenophobes R us party.
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Reply #23 - Dec 21st, 2010 at 8:17am
 
skippy. wrote on Dec 21st, 2010 at 8:04am:
aussiefree2ride wrote on Dec 21st, 2010 at 7:58am:
Miss Anne Dryst wrote on Dec 21st, 2010 at 7:30am:
I wonder if the fact that the Liberal Party and Malcolm Fraser had a falling out had anything to do with Malcolm Fraser's resignation.


And still the champagne socialist doesn't get it.



They all seem very slow on the uptake.

Fraser resigned because he hated Howard for turning the Liberal party into the xenophobes R us party.


Take your time dippy, it doesn`t matter if you never "get it", your opinion doesn`t count anyway.
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Reply #24 - Dec 21st, 2010 at 8:18am
 
skippy. wrote on Dec 21st, 2010 at 8:06am:
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LOL, a cloth eared bint transvestite, that's our missy mel.



Your really on the ball today dippy. Try shifting your feet to relieve the pain.
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Reply #25 - Dec 21st, 2010 at 5:58pm
 
aussiefree2ride wrote on Dec 21st, 2010 at 8:18am:
skippy. wrote on Dec 21st, 2010 at 8:06am:
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CLOTH-EARED BINT





LOL, a cloth eared bint transvestite, that's our missy mel.



Your really on the ball today dippy. Try shifting your feet to relieve the pain.




LOL aussie


Its because pinky has a ahummm 'growth' problem.
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