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Reply #15 - Dec 18^th, 2010 at 4:31pm

As a consequence of this boat tragedy, the left want to boost our refugee intake, naturally, and at a time when the right want to crack down on boats arriving to our shores illegally.

Not all refugees are law-biding citizens as some would suggest.

In the next breath, a Labor government flirts with the prospect of imposing a congestion tax ...due to increasing traffic on our roads.

Cant win!

Not under a Labor government who continues making a rod for our backs.

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Reply #16 - Dec 18^th, 2010 at 4:45pm

skippy. wrote on Dec 18^th, 2010 at 4:27pm:

mellie wrote on Dec 18^th, 2010 at 1:16pm:

Hanson says 'pathetic' Australian PM to blame for boat deaths

Controversial former Australian politician Pauline Hanson says the government's weak policies on asylum seekers are to blame for the deaths of dozens of people off the coast of Christmas Island

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"I believe it is vital that the truth, every fact, about this tragic incident is known to decision makers and to the general public," Prime Minister Gillard said during a press briefing in Sydney, calling the deaths "a terrible human tragedy."

Hanson said the money would be better spent addressing Australia's social problems, as would the dollars being allocated to process and support asylum seekers on their arrival in the country.

....Article continues pages 1 - 3

http://articles.cnn.com/2010-12-16/world/australia.asylum.seekers_1_asylum-seeke...

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Rubbish....the left are screaming for an overhaul of Labors refugee policies.... are demanding reform.

Ie...lets not have any detention centres at all...and make Australia an 'Open country".

how does that relate to the left supporting what Hanson said about Gillard being to " blame for the deaths" please provide some proof, otherwise you'll just look like a liar.

http://www.greenleft.org.au/node/46401

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mellie Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 8142 Sydney Gender:	Re: Hanson says Gillards responsible for boat deaths Reply #17 - Dec 18^th, 2010 at 4:49pm http://www.greenleft.org.au/node/46401 You were saying Skipper? Jeeze, you make it easy for me... too easy.
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Reply #18 - Dec 18^th, 2010 at 4:54pm

The horrifying part of the News Item linked in the OP, is that it is an international site - CNN - so the entire world can see what is being said (correctly or not) about Ms. Gillard.

I shall have to develop an Oxford accent so that I won't be known as Australian when I travel for work now, it's so embarrassing.

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Reply #19 - Dec 18^th, 2010 at 4:59pm

Government anti-refugee policy is responsible for the tragedy on Christmas Island,” said Ian Rintoul, spokesperson for the Refugee Action Coalition.

What media outlet does the refugee action spokesperson work for?
Because the GREEN left ran a comment from a refugee action spokesperson the "whole left" blame Gillard for the tragedy? You're a liar mel, but we knew that.
Mike Carlton was correct, rightards trying to turn this into a political wedge are the scum of the earth.

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Re: Hanson says Gillards responsible for boat deaths
Reply #20 - Dec 18^th, 2010 at 5:08pm

George wrote on Dec 18^th, 2010 at 4:54pm:

The horrifying part of the News Item linked in the OP, is that it is an international site - CNN - so the entire world can see what is being said (correctly or not) about Ms. Gillard.

I shall have to develop an Oxford accent so that I won't be known as Australian when I travel for work now, it's so embarrassing.

if thats the case george.. I hope you are not following the activities of Kevin 747... he is really dropping a few bloopers.

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Reply #21 - Dec 18^th, 2010 at 5:09pm

skippy. wrote on Dec 18^th, 2010 at 4:59pm:

Government anti-refugee policy is responsible for the tragedy on Christmas Island,” said Ian Rintoul, spokesperson for the Refugee Action Coalition.

What media outlet does the refugee action spokesperson work for?
Because the GREEN left ran a comment from a refugee action spokesperson the "whole left" blame Gillard for the tragedy? You're a liar mel, but we knew that.
Mike Carlton was correct, rightards trying to turn this into a political wedge are the scum of the earth.

And the green-left have seemingly 'accommodated' these views, by not challenging them in the least, rather went so far as to even publish them on their green-left website...this and go so far as to endorse them on their own blogs.

Now Skip....go take a cold shower and calm yourself.

http://www.greenleft.org.au/node/46401

If you're going to be a 'real' lefty, at least do it properly and get your slant in check.

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Re: Hanson says Gillards responsible for boat deaths
Reply #22 - Dec 18^th, 2010 at 5:13pm

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And the green-left have seemingly 'accommodated' these views,

The GREEN left are a media outlet, your argument is akin to saying Murdoch press dont print the views of the GREENS or Labor because Murdoch press are filthy fascists. Even though Murdoch press are filthy fascists, like Akerman and Bolt, they still print the opinion of Bob Brown and Gillard, its called "opinion" moron.

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Please delete Gold Member Offline Please delete this smacking PROFILE Posts: 2936	Re: Hanson says Gillards responsible for boat deaths Reply #23 - Dec 18^th, 2010 at 5:16pm This is getting serious - Hanson AND Bolt are pretending to be unhappy
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FD Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 100364	Re: Hanson says Gillards responsible for boat deaths Reply #24 - Dec 18^th, 2010 at 5:20pm mellie wrote on Dec 18^th, 2010 at 4:22pm: Must be difficult swimming in a Jihab. Say no more. You've got to the heart of everything right here.
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Re: Hanson says Gillards responsible for boat deaths
Reply #25 - Dec 18^th, 2010 at 5:20pm

buzzanddidj wrote on Dec 18^th, 2010 at 2:25pm:

Death of asylum seekers nation's shame: activist
BRENDAN GULLIFER
18 Dec, 2010 01:05 AM

The death of at least 30 asylum seekers off Christmas Island is Australia's shame, a former refugee living in Ballarat said yesterday.

Human rights activist Ali Bakhtiavandi said Australia was part of an alliance of western governments that had made war in Iraq and Afghanistan."

These governments destroyed Iraq and Afghanistan," he said. "Now they have a responsibility for the people we call refugees."

Mr Bakhtiavandi, 44, spent more than four years behind razor wire at detention centres in Melbourne, Baxter and Port Hedland before his case was taken up by human rights lawyer Julian Burnside.

The former petro-chemical worker said he escaped Iran in 2000 because his life was in danger. He left behind his mother, four sisters and two brothers.

"Australian, American, British and other governments call the Iranian government a dangerous government. If they believe the Iranian government is dangerous, why will they not take refugees from Iran?"

He said he paid US$5000 to a people smuggler in Indonesia and made a 72-hour crossing to in a leaky boat crowded with 36 people .

He said the people smuggler told him he would be under United Nations protection in Australia for 45 days then released into the community after a medical check.

Mr Bakhtiavandi said his time in detention centres was marked by bashings and abuse by private security guards, and mind games by immigration department officials.

"People in detention centres are not terrorists," he said. "You can release these people out of detention centres and they're not going to hurt anybody."

http://www.thecourier.com.au/news/local/news/general/death-of-asylum-seekers-nat...

to be honest.. I find some of this stuff hard to take for real.. no offence here.. but this gentleman says his life was in danger in 2000 in Iran but he wasnt too worried about leaving a large family behind..in danger also one presumes.

if this gentleman is so sure there are no terrorists/criminals in these camps... why was his life in peril back in Iran? why are these people being driven out of their own countries what have they done?.. and why isnt this gentleman doing more to make Iran a safe country for his fellow countrymen?

now most of those poor souls on this boat have relatives waiting here for them either on Xmas Island on even in Sydney..they have managed to find these people smugglers and pay huge sums to get on a boat.. how convienent! maybe they know of a travel agent in Indonesia..

sorry but for me a lot smells about all this..

its almost as if someone has a travel cartel.. like the drug lords have to get their drugs from A to B.

perhaps I am the only one that thinks like that..and if you think its nasty then it isnt meant to be. I just like to cross the Ts and dot the i's thats all.. and too many are missing the mark.

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FD Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 100364	Re: Hanson says Gillards responsible for boat deaths Reply #26 - Dec 18^th, 2010 at 5:21pm mellie wrote on Dec 18^th, 2010 at 4:31pm: As a consequence of this boat tragedy... Now it's a tragedy?
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Re: Hanson says Gillards responsible for boat deaths
Reply #27 - Dec 18^th, 2010 at 5:24pm

skippy. wrote on Dec 18^th, 2010 at 5:13pm:

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And the green-left have seemingly 'accommodated' these views,

The GREEN left are a media outlet, your argument is akin to saying Murdoch press dont print the views of the GREENS or Labor because Murdoch press are filthy fascists. Even though Murdoch press are filthy fascists, like Akerman and Bolt, they still print the opinion of Bob Brown and Gillard, its called "opinion" moron.

Just a media outlet you think Skip?

hahahahah...gawd you're thick Skip...must I bring you up to speed about everything, or are you just playing stupid, desperately hoping others here wont pick up on your blunt affect?

Honestly, I don't know why I bother...perhaps it's because I have a bathroom to scrub and would rather not,(Ie am procrastinating) but here goes....

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Green Left Weekly
Online version of the progressive newspaper published by the Democratic Socialist Party (Australia). As an Australian alternative newspaper, it campaigns for workers' rights, supports the environment, fights racism and sexism, and gives solidarity for....

http://www.pageinsider.com/greenleft.org.au

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Re: Hanson says Gillards responsible for boat deaths
Reply #28 - Dec 18^th, 2010 at 5:28pm

mellie wrote on Dec 18^th, 2010 at 4:31pm:

As a consequence of this boat tragedy, the left want to boost our refugee intake, naturally, and at a time when the right want to crack down on boats arriving to our shores illegally.

Not all refugees are law-biding citizens as some would suggest.

In the next breath, a Labor government flirts with the prospect of imposing a congestion tax ...due to increasing traffic on our roads.

Cant win!

Not under a Labor government who continues making a rod for our backs.

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oh if only they could tax us for breathing all their problems would be over.. ha.ha..

I think this is the future..whatever they can tax they will.

the whole of our system seems to have turned full circle..once upon a time the villians got their just deserts..now they get time off for good behaviour.

the victim got justice.. now they get a lifetime of injustice, living with the thoughts that the villian is being protected and given every chance to have a life.. something they will never have.

funny isnt it..........well its meant to be!

some asylum seekers have moved into the army barrack in Adelaide...thats nice must be comforting for all those waiting on housing lists for another 3 years or more... these houses were on the news tonight they looked pretty good from here.

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Reply #29 - Dec 18^th, 2010 at 5:33pm

Refer to GLW (Green-Left Weekly) issue 864 for their published views concerning the boat issue Skip.

http://www.greenleft.org.au/node/46303

I also happen to agree with them on the Julian Assange issue...though disagree with Andrew Bolt on his views concerning Wikileaks.

I pick and choose who I agree with this and wont agree with a given party or individual in accordance with their political slant.

I try to remain objective.

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