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Reply #270 - Dec 18th, 2010 at 4:50pm
 
Andrew Bolt tells it how it is.  The fact that one particular side of politics is being shown to be totally inept is not Bolt's fault,  you need to look to the P.M. and her band of incorrigibles.
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Reply #271 - Dec 18th, 2010 at 4:57pm
 
He's a popular Australian columnist and radio commentator, this and has his own blog.

Australia's most visited blog in fact.



Apparently our strident Andrew Bolt isn't entitled to his own opinion, on his own blog...well according to Bob Brown who has nominated himself Gillards keeper and PR assistant so it seems.

The thing is, the vocal left hold Giillard just as accountable for the tragic boat affair as do the probably less vocal right....but do you see Bob Brown requesting their resignations or their web-sites pulled in accordance with their views?

http://www.greenleft.org.au/node/46401


When it's become clear...


"DO as we say, not as we do"

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Reply #272 - Dec 18th, 2010 at 5:02pm
 
George wrote on Dec 18th, 2010 at 4:50pm:
Andrew Bolt tells it how it is.  The fact that one particular side of politics is being shown to be totally inept is not Bolt's fault,  you need to look to the P.M. and her band of incorrigibles.  


Let me quote "Time" from the previous page;

"As for your own "reasoning", you say he is "telling it how he sees it". Well, that counts for zero. Anyone capable of putting a couple sentences together can "tell it how he sees it".  If a 4 year old "tells us how he/she sees it" then that seems good enough for you, which, by default, utterly destroys any supposed superiority in Bolt's arguments."
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Reply #273 - Dec 18th, 2010 at 5:18pm
 
I don't agree with all Bolt writes/says, but I do happen to think he's right on the mark about allot of what he writes.

Andrew Bolt thrashes issues your more conventional (MSM) columnists, journalists wont...which is probably why he's so loved here in Australia.

He's an aussey patriot and larriken at heart...and knows much of what he talks about.

What's not to love about Andrew the bold?

He's one of my favourites.

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Reply #274 - Dec 18th, 2010 at 5:35pm
 
mellie wrote on Dec 18th, 2010 at 5:18pm:
I don't agree with all Bolt writes/says, but I do happen to think he's right on the mark about allot of what he writes.

Andrew Bolt thrashes issues your more conventional (MSM) columnists, journalists wont...which is probably why he's so loved here in Australia.

He's an aussey patriot and larriken at heart...and knows much of what he talks about.

What's not to love about Andrew the bold?

He's one of my favourites.

Cool




I too find him very easy to read..that will also get up someones nose... did you read Laurie Oakes today mel?..

we have a highseas disaster of the worst kind..and he write about gillard and Co taking acting lessons.. its the thing to do to liven up a dud govt..

is that next years Walkley award....
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Reply #275 - Dec 18th, 2010 at 5:40pm
 
codswal wrote on Dec 18th, 2010 at 4:32pm:
As for your own "reasoning", you say he is "telling it how he sees it". Well, that counts for zero. Anyone capable of putting a couple sentences together can "tell it how he sees it".  If a 4 year old "tells us how he/she sees it" then that seems good enough for you, which, by default, utterly destroys any supposed superiority in Bolt's arguments.

time.

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hes a journalist he is paid as a journalist... if thats your take on it.. then that goes for every journalist that ever was..

get over yourself... do as I do.. dont read the ones you dont like...

he will never say what you lwant to hear...

that everything this govt does and has done is fantastic.isgreat. is showing great leadership..blah.blah.blah.

infact right now you will fin d it bloody hard to find one journalist on your side of the fence saying anything worthy of LABOR....so you will find it hard to find someone to read..


The very fact that Bolt is masquerading as a journalist is the problem. Bolt is subverting the chain of cause and effect to suit his political ends. To claim Gillard "has blood on her hands" is to make Gillard responsible for the weather, rough seas, rocks, crappy boats, the people on the aforementioned boat, and the smugglers. Where is the responsibility of those on the boat? and the smugglers? How can anyone be blamed for bad weather? Miss Anne Dryst couldn't answer this question and departed from this discussion once she had to contemplate using logic, rather than an aversion for someone (gillard).
Logic 101: having an aversion for something does not make that something responsible for the act in question. Are you intellectually honest? Or are you, like many others here, passing off your hatred for Gillard as if that amounts to any to anything when one epistemologically examines the chain of cause and effect?
If Gillard is responsible for this incident, then, using Bolt's own unique brand of "logic", Bolt is responsible for the deaths of innocents in the Iraq war.
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Re: Calls for Bolt to resign re call for PM to resign
Reply #276 - Dec 18th, 2010 at 5:43pm
 
codswal wrote on Dec 18th, 2010 at 5:35pm:
mellie wrote on Dec 18th, 2010 at 5:18pm:
I don't agree with all Bolt writes/says, but I do happen to think he's right on the mark about allot of what he writes.

Andrew Bolt thrashes issues your more conventional (MSM) columnists, journalists wont...which is probably why he's so loved here in Australia.

He's an aussey patriot and larriken at heart...and knows much of what he talks about.

What's not to love about Andrew the bold?

He's one of my favourites.

Cool




I too find him very easy to read..that will also get up someones nose... did you read Laurie Oakes today mel?..

we have a highseas disaster of the worst kind..and he write about gillard and Co taking acting lessons.. its the thing to do to liven up a dud govt..

is that next years Walkley award....




And it's great that you can catch his MTR on podcast too.
Andrew Bolt puts everything into perspective, so that your own inner beliefs are reinforced as being correct, so you're not living in la la land. And he blasts the lefties (and even the righties when they get it wrong) which balances and addresses the media bias.
The lefties really hate it when people speak out against their idiocy, and they would prefer it if every one had to follow and believe in their ridiculous thoughts.
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Re: Calls for Bolt to resign re call for PM to resign
Reply #277 - Dec 18th, 2010 at 5:43pm
 
George wrote on Dec 18th, 2010 at 4:50pm:
Andrew Bolt tells it how it is.  The fact that one particular side of politics is being shown to be totally inept is not Bolt's fault,  you need to look to the P.M. and her band of incorrigibles.  


No. You need to look at how Bolt "reasons" his position.

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Reply #278 - Dec 18th, 2010 at 5:48pm
 
Miss Anne Dryst wrote on Dec 18th, 2010 at 5:43pm:
codswal wrote on Dec 18th, 2010 at 5:35pm:
mellie wrote on Dec 18th, 2010 at 5:18pm:
I don't agree with all Bolt writes/says, but I do happen to think he's right on the mark about allot of what he writes.

Andrew Bolt thrashes issues your more conventional (MSM) columnists, journalists wont...which is probably why he's so loved here in Australia.

He's an aussey patriot and larriken at heart...and knows much of what he talks about.

What's not to love about Andrew the bold?

He's one of my favourites.

Cool




I too find him very easy to read..that will also get up someones nose... did you read Laurie Oakes today mel?..

we have a highseas disaster of the worst kind..and he write about gillard and Co taking acting lessons.. its the thing to do to liven up a dud govt..

is that next years Walkley award....




And it's great that you can catch his MTR on podcast too.
Andrew Bolt puts everything into perspective, so that your own inner beliefs are reinforced as being correct, so you're not living in la la land. And he blasts the lefties (and even the righties when they get it wrong) which balances and addresses the media bias.
The lefties really hate it when people speak out against their idiocy, and they would prefer it if every one had to follow and believe in their ridiculous thoughts.



So you need reassurance for your own "inner beliefs"? Do you possess any ability at all for independent thought?

You have yet to counter my argument of Bolt's subversion of the chain of cause and effect.

I will keep repeating it until all those who reason through "hate" are shown for the intellectual retards they are.
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Reply #279 - Dec 18th, 2010 at 6:00pm
 
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 18th, 2010 at 5:40pm:
As for your own "reasoning", you say he is "telling it how he sees it". Well, that counts for zero. Anyone capable of putting a couple sentences together can "tell it how he sees it".  If a 4 year old "tells us how he/she sees it" then that seems good enough for you, which, by default, utterly destroys any supposed superiority in Bolt's arguments.

time.


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hes a journalist he is paid as a journalist... if thats your take on it.. then that goes for every journalist that ever was..

get over yourself... do as I do.. dont read the ones you dont like...

he will never say what you lwant to hear...

that everything this govt does and has done is fantastic.isgreat. is showing great leadership..blah.blah.blah.

infact right now you will fin d it bloody hard to find one journalist on your side of the fence saying anything worthy of LABOR....so you will find it hard to find someone to read..


The very fact that Bolt is masquerading as a journalist is the problem. Bolt is subverting the chain of cause and effect to suit his political ends. To claim Gillard "has blood on her hands" is to make Gillard responsible for the weather, rough seas, rocks, crappy boats, the people on the aforementioned boat, and the smugglers. Where is the responsibility of those on the boat? and the smugglers? How can anyone be blamed for bad weather? Miss Anne Dryst couldn't answer this question and departed from this discussion once she had to contemplate using logic, rather than an aversion for someone (gillard).
Logic 101: having an aversion for something does not make that something responsible for the act in question. Are you intellectually honest? Or are you, like many others here, passing off your hatred for Gillard as if that amounts to any to anything when one epistemologically examines the chain of cause and effect?
If Gillard is responsible for this incident, then, using Bolt's own unique brand of "logic", Bolt is responsible for the deaths of innocents in the Iraq war. [/quote]



hey you cant have it both ways... if you want every word spoken/written taken as gospel.. then it has to go for everyone..'

Blood on her Hands... in fact meant responsibilty for the boat being in our waters in the first place.

if the govt isnt responsible who should be????...

was the capt of the Navy ship asleep at the wheel when they slipped past??

so we can blame him... how about Smith the defence force minister isnt he responsible for the Navy

you see we need someone to step up and accept responsibility, something this Labor govt finds very hard to do.

govts are there to make decisions that we cant make.. that includes going to war, or not going to war.

in this case this govt chose to cancel the pacific solution, that was working, as best anything like that could work.

but they saw a vote in their decision, and they took it.. stopped some voting green I believe.

now whether it was right or wrong. is anyones guess. but from where I sit.. it was this very action that increased the boat activity. nothing else just that very act.

and the boats started coming in all shapes.no matter what the risks...

with the end result being what we have seen this week.we should count our lucky stars this hasnt happened over and over again.

but dont blame the messenger..and dont twist it all around to say.. well yes we can hold you responsible.

Bolt/ we dont make these decisions.  we pay someone higher to do that
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Reply #280 - Dec 18th, 2010 at 7:12pm
 
Postmodern Trendoid III wrote on Dec 18th, 2010 at 5:40pm:
codswal wrote on Dec 18th, 2010 at 4:32pm:
As for your own "reasoning", you say he is "telling it how he sees it". Well, that counts for zero. Anyone capable of putting a couple sentences together can "tell it how he sees it".  If a 4 year old "tells us how he/she sees it" then that seems good enough for you, which, by default, utterly destroys any supposed superiority in Bolt's arguments.

time.

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hes a journalist he is paid as a journalist... if thats your take on it.. then that goes for every journalist that ever was..

get over yourself... do as I do.. dont read the ones you dont like...

he will never say what you lwant to hear...

that everything this govt does and has done is fantastic.isgreat. is showing great leadership..blah.blah.blah.

infact right now you will fin d it bloody hard to find one journalist on your side of the fence saying anything worthy of LABOR....so you will find it hard to find someone to read..


The very fact that Bolt is masquerading as a journalist is the problem. Bolt is subverting the chain of cause and effect to suit his political ends. To claim Gillard "has blood on her hands" is to make Gillard responsible for the weather, rough seas, rocks, crappy boats, the people on the aforementioned boat, and the smugglers. Where is the responsibility of those on the boat? and the smugglers? How can anyone be blamed for bad weather? Miss Anne Dryst couldn't answer this question and departed from this discussion once she had to contemplate using logic, rather than an aversion for someone (gillard).
Logic 101: having an aversion for something does not make that something responsible for the act in question. Are you intellectually honest? Or are you, like many others here, passing off your hatred for Gillard as if that amounts to any to anything when one epistemologically examines the chain of cause and effect?
If Gillard is responsible for this incident, then, using Bolt's own unique brand of "logic", Bolt is responsible for the deaths of innocents in the Iraq war.



Here's an excellent counter to your 'cause and effect':

Howard had a problem similar to Rudd/Gillard's now. He came up with a solution and the problem ceased to exist.

Rudd/Gillard inherited that solution and turned it into the very problem Howard himself encountered all those years ago.

So now we are back exactly where we were.

You are not serious in suggesting that Rudd/Gillard have nothing to do with abolishing the solution without coming up with an equal or better one - but that it's just all wind and weathr and geopolitical whatnot, do you?



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Reply #281 - Dec 18th, 2010 at 8:08pm
 
codswal wrote on Dec 18th, 2010 at 4:50pm:
darkhall67 wrote on Dec 18th, 2010 at 4:34pm:
He's NOT a #$%&"*+` journalist.





OK I WILL BUY INTO IT... WHAT IS HE THEN WHAT DO THEY PAY HIM FOR??????


I would call him a columnist - he is a talented writer and uses humour very well (not always intentionally).

To me a journalist should be able to pass the journalists ethics tests and in my opinion a writer who is so obviously biased and incapable of objectivity does not qualify.
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Reply #282 - Dec 18th, 2010 at 8:12pm
 
codswal wrote on Dec 18th, 2010 at 5:35pm:
I too find him very easy to read..that will also get up someones nose...


Like Grug. Or Spot. Or pretty much the entire Mr. Men series.
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Reply #283 - Dec 18th, 2010 at 8:15pm
 
darkhall67 wrote on Dec 18th, 2010 at 4:34pm:
He's NOT a #$%&"*+` journalist.


Forget it mate. Some of these people wouldn't know journalism if it smacked them right between the eyes.
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Reply #284 - Dec 18th, 2010 at 8:20pm
 
Jaykaye_09 wrote on Dec 18th, 2010 at 8:15pm:
darkhall67 wrote on Dec 18th, 2010 at 4:34pm:
He's NOT a #$%&"*+` journalist.


Forget it mate. Some of these people wouldn't know journalism if it smacked them right between the eyes.




Yes, they need fairytales read to them every day and night.
Maybe why they like to only read the Sydney Morning Herald and The Age.
Must be a real eye opener when reality hits them.
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