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Re: Dead boat people
Reply #45 - Dec 16th, 2010 at 8:35am
 
Dsmithy70 wrote on Dec 16th, 2010 at 8:15am:
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Liberals accused of trying to rewrite history
Broadcast: 21/11/2001

With a third election victory under its belt, the Liberal Party machine has offered an alternative analysis on why it was returned to power. Not surprisingly, after a divisive campaign, the people who ran it are playing down the role of asylum seekers and the 'Tampa' crisis.

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Compere: Tony Jones
Reporter: Sarah Clarke



SARAH CLARKE: It was a familiar message spelt out by the PM throughout the campaign.

JOHN HOWARD, PRIME MINISTER: We will decide who comes to this country and the circumstances in which they come.

SARAH CLARKE: A message repeated.

JOHN HOWARD (OCTOBER 29): What I am asserting is the right of this country to decide who comes here.

SARAH CLARKE: And if you missed that, there was a television advertisement.

JOHN HOWARD (ADVERTISMENT): We will decide who comes to this country.

SARAH CLARKE: But today, in an election post-mortem, Liberal Party mastermind Lynton Crosby, insisted the issue of border protection was not exploited as a campaign tool


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http://www.abc.net.au/lateline/content/2001/s422692.htm


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Reply #46 - Dec 16th, 2010 at 8:36am
 
nichy wrote on Dec 16th, 2010 at 7:53am:
philperth2010 wrote on Dec 16th, 2010 at 7:40am:
Howard lied when he claimed Siev X sunk in Indonesian waters......An Australian navy ship was the closest vessel to the sinking and the Howard government did nothing to prevent the tragedy despite knowing the vessel was in trouble......the truth is a lot different to the crap peddled by the right......Siev X was allowed to happen!!!

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Didn't the Indonesian Government receive very many Aussie dollars to prevent this type of tragedy -  where is the money - what is Indonesia doing about it ?

The other awful thing is  do we want the type of men in his country who would do what was reported by an eyewitness as follows :

"Then the boat crashed into the cliff. There was chaos in the water, there was small children, women. The men seemed to hug the life jackets and it was not a nice sight to see men pushing women away from life jackets, looking after themselves."


There is no respect for men, or women, or children where these people come from Niki, so they act accordingly. Chivalry is dead/dying in Australia also, it`s sadly an outdated tradition.
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Re: Dead boat people
Reply #47 - Dec 16th, 2010 at 8:36am
 
Political point scoring is very ordinary form Buzz.
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Reply #48 - Dec 16th, 2010 at 8:37am
 
Hey sprint, I agree somewhat.

They were fools to come by boat, they should have got on a plane.

They were fools in many ways.

But I won't be silent while hicks and others use such tragedy for partisan insult slanging.

One slander has been answered though - it wasn't a boat full of men who had left their families behind.

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Reply #49 - Dec 16th, 2010 at 8:38am
 
aussiefree2ride wrote on Dec 16th, 2010 at 8:30am:
Please delete wrote on Dec 16th, 2010 at 7:58am:
"A tragic event which saddens many of us"

More crocodile tears from the right.




That was low Ernie.





I'd declare it a fair call


It's usually "blow them out of the water" or "leave them for shark bait" by the right




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Reply #50 - Dec 16th, 2010 at 8:41am
 
buzzanddidj wrote on Dec 16th, 2010 at 8:38am:
aussiefree2ride wrote on Dec 16th, 2010 at 8:30am:
Please delete wrote on Dec 16th, 2010 at 7:58am:
"A tragic event which saddens many of us"

More crocodile tears from the right.




That was low Ernie.





I'd declare it a fair call


It's usually "blow them out of the water" or "leave them for shark bait" by the right







More cheap lies. The call from the "right" is "stop the boats from comming in the first place", which is more sensible than the teary eyed, impractical sentamentalism of the shallow thinkers.
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Reply #51 - Dec 16th, 2010 at 8:42am
 
"Political point scoring is very ordinary form Buzz. "

Ah, the Hicks I know and love.
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Reply #52 - Dec 16th, 2010 at 8:46am
 
Dsmithy70 wrote on Dec 16th, 2010 at 8:15am:
Welcome to the Annual Australian Grave Dancing Event
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You ought to be ashamed of the weak Government policy that encouraged people smuggling. These tragic deaths, and untold others lay at the feet of the ALP.  Don`t try do suffocate these objections by low life accusations ov insincerity, of these criticisms. These deaths must be stopped, you won`t silence the call to stop these deaths, no matter how politically inconvenient it is to you!
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Reply #53 - Dec 16th, 2010 at 8:46am
 
ww.refugeecouncil.org.au/docs/current/2010_party_election_policies.pdf


2.) REGIONAL APPROACH TO PROCESSING ASYLUM SEEKERS
On 6 July 2010, Prime Minister Julia Gillard announced that the Labor Government is pursuing a
regional approach to the processing of asylum seekers with the involvement of the United Nations
High Commission for Refugees (UNHCR), as part of a sustainable regional protection framework.
This framework would build on work already underway through the Bali Process. Ms Gillard said
Labor would work towards an approach which “effectively eliminates the onshore processing of
unauthorised arrivals and ensures that anyone seeking asylum is subject to a consistent process of
assessment in the same place”.
If re-elected, Labor would introduce a regional processing centre to reduce the incentive for people
smugglers to send boats to Australia
. The assessment processes would be consistent to ensure
that arriving by boat does not give an advantage in the likelihood that they would end up settling in
Australia or other countries of the region. Labor would require that the regional processing centre
be properly run, auspiced and structured, with the processing to take place in a country which has
ratified the Refugee Convention.
In announcing plans for a regional processing centre and for the development of a regional
protection framework, Prime Minister Julia Gillard said the Government’s policy goal is to “wreck
the people smuggling trade” by removing the incentive for boats carrying asylum seekers to leave
their port of origin in the first place: to remove both the profitability of the trade and the danger of
the voyage
. The Government’s policy seeks to stop the boats before they leave ports on the
journey toward Australia. Ms Gillard does not support the idea of turning asylum boats back to the
country from which they have come, saying that such an approach would put asylum seekers and
Australia’s defence and customs personnel at risk. She says that Labor does not accept the idea of
punishing women and children by locking them up behind razor wire or ignoring people who are
fleeing genocide, torture, and persecution. This, she says, is not inconsistent with “our commitment
to secure borders and fair, orderly migration”.




It doesn't appear to be working Julia

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Reply #54 - Dec 16th, 2010 at 8:47am
 

aussie - yes, the left here and in power make me sick.

completely useless, impractical, expensive and a drain on the world.
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Reply #55 - Dec 16th, 2010 at 8:52am
 
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The call from the "right" is "stop the boats from comming in the first place







As is the aim of the LEFT

But the LEFT do not agree with the RIGHT'S "Final Solution" of life imprisonment on Nauru*


(* Nauru was paid per "unit" per week by the Australian Government

Nauru is NOT a signatory to the UN convention - and found it in their best financial interest to hold them as long as possible, despite having UN declared refugee status)



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Reply #56 - Dec 16th, 2010 at 8:52am
 
Miss Anne Dryst wrote on Dec 16th, 2010 at 6:52am:
Julia Gillard's ignorance on this matter is amazing, but her childish stubborness is not.
Julia Gillard was forewarned that when they relaxed the Pacific Solution after 170 deaths had already occurred that more would die following due to her encouragement for the people smugglers to bring more. Gillard chose to ignore that advice, claiming "There is no evidence to support this figure".
Well Julia Gillard has the figures now!
But will Julia Gillard finally come to some sense and re-instate the Pacific Solution, or is her Death Solution meant to be the disincentive for people smugglers?


She was an incompetent when she was in Rudd's Gang of Four.
Her promotion to the top job has not increased her level of competence.
As a result, she will not come to her senses.
She will continue to flap her gums and make promises she can't keep, and generally do nothing.
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Reply #57 - Dec 16th, 2010 at 8:52am
 
No they'd rather have them processed on a different foreign country....

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Reply #58 - Dec 16th, 2010 at 8:53am
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Dec 16th, 2010 at 8:47am:
aussie - yes, the left here and in power make me sick.

completely useless, impractical, expensive and a drain on the world.



Human life means nothing to these weak spirited rsoles, they are fanatically absorbed with their own agendas.
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Reply #59 - Dec 16th, 2010 at 8:56am
 
aussiefree2ride wrote on Dec 16th, 2010 at 8:36am:
nichy wrote on Dec 16th, 2010 at 7:53am:
philperth2010 wrote on Dec 16th, 2010 at 7:40am:
Howard lied when he claimed Siev X sunk in Indonesian waters......An Australian navy ship was the closest vessel to the sinking and the Howard government did nothing to prevent the tragedy despite knowing the vessel was in trouble......the truth is a lot different to the crap peddled by the right......Siev X was allowed to happen!!!

Angry


Didn't the Indonesian Government receive very many Aussie dollars to prevent this type of tragedy -  where is the money - what is Indonesia doing about it ?

The other awful thing is  do we want the type of men in his country who would do what was reported by an eyewitness as follows :

"Then the boat crashed into the cliff. There was chaos in the water, there was small children, women. The men seemed to hug the life jackets and it was not a nice sight to see men pushing women away from life jackets, looking after themselves."


There is no respect for men, or women, or children where these people come from Niki, so they act accordingly. Chivalry is dead/dying in Australia also, it`s sadly an outdated tradition.


This smacks of "Children overboard". Already inhumanity is desperately seeking a sprinkle of justification.
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