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Re: Cancun climate change conference
Reply #15 - Jan 2^nd, 2011 at 3:20am

freediver wrote on Jan 1^st, 2011 at 10:15pm:

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Jan 1^st, 2011 at 8:34pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 12^th, 2010 at 9:23pm:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_United_Nations_Climate_Change_Conference

The outcome of the summit was an agreement, not a binding treaty, which calls on rich countries to reduce their greenhouse gas emissions as pledged in the Copenhagen Accord, and for developing countries to plan to reduce their emissions, to limit global warming to less than 2 degrees celsius above pre-industrial levels. The agreement includes a proposed $100 billion a year fund to assist poorer countries finance emission reductions and adaptation.

The New York Times described the agreement as being both a "major step forward" given that international negotiations had stumbled in recent years, and as being "fairly modest" as it did not require the changes that scientists say are needed to avoid dangerous climate change.

But, what is the currently translatable target definition for keeping warming to under 2 degrees: ... is there one?!!? Tongue

I'm pretty sure the IPCC has made an estimate.

It doesn't seem to be public knowledge!

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Re: Cancun climate change conference
Reply #16 - Jan 2^nd, 2011 at 9:42am

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2011 at 3:20am:

freediver wrote on Jan 1^st, 2011 at 10:15pm:

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Jan 1^st, 2011 at 8:34pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 12^th, 2010 at 9:23pm:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_United_Nations_Climate_Change_Conference

The outcome of the summit was an agreement, not a binding treaty, which calls on rich countries to reduce their greenhouse gas emissions as pledged in the Copenhagen Accord, and for developing countries to plan to reduce their emissions, to limit global warming to less than 2 degrees celsius above pre-industrial levels. The agreement includes a proposed $100 billion a year fund to assist poorer countries finance emission reductions and adaptation.

The New York Times described the agreement as being both a "major step forward" given that international negotiations had stumbled in recent years, and as being "fairly modest" as it did not require the changes that scientists say are needed to avoid dangerous climate change.

But, what is the currently translatable target definition for keeping warming to under 2 degrees: ... is there one?!!? Tongue

I'm pretty sure the IPCC has made an estimate.

It doesn't seem to be public knowledge!

It's been on the front page plenty of times.

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Re: Cancun climate change conference
Reply #17 - Jan 2^nd, 2011 at 11:43am

freediver wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2011 at 9:42am:

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2011 at 3:20am:

freediver wrote on Jan 1^st, 2011 at 10:15pm:

BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Jan 1^st, 2011 at 8:34pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 12^th, 2010 at 9:23pm:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_United_Nations_Climate_Change_Conference

The outcome of the summit was an agreement, not a binding treaty, which calls on rich countries to reduce their greenhouse gas emissions as pledged in the Copenhagen Accord, and for developing countries to plan to reduce their emissions, to limit global warming to less than 2 degrees celsius above pre-industrial levels. The agreement includes a proposed $100 billion a year fund to assist poorer countries finance emission reductions and adaptation.

The New York Times described the agreement as being both a "major step forward" given that international negotiations had stumbled in recent years, and as being "fairly modest" as it did not require the changes that scientists say are needed to avoid dangerous climate change.

But, what is the currently translatable target definition for keeping warming to under 2 degrees: ... is there one?!!? Tongue

I'm pretty sure the IPCC has made an estimate.

It doesn't seem to be public knowledge!

It's been on the front page plenty of times.

So, how do we supposedly keep change to under 2 degrees?

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 53463 At my desk.	Re: Cancun climate change conference Reply #18 - Jan 2^nd, 2011 at 4:24pm By reducing CO2 emissions.
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Re: Cancun climate change conference
Reply #19 - Jan 2^nd, 2011 at 5:20pm

freediver wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2011 at 4:24pm:

By reducing CO2 emissions.

Given increasing Population & Demand and Major Global Players that will not agree to the solutions being proposed?

Is it posible to reduce GHG's, on a voluntary basis, across the planet & if so how?

If not, what are the likely ramifications, over time?

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 53463 At my desk.	Re: Cancun climate change conference Reply #20 - Jan 2^nd, 2011 at 7:19pm They will agree on something eventually. That is just the nature of politics. Sometimes it seems like things never change. Then everything changes overnight.
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Re: Cancun climate change conference
Reply #21 - Jan 2^nd, 2011 at 8:05pm

freediver wrote on Jan 2^nd, 2011 at 7:19pm:

They will agree on something eventually. That is just the nature of politics. Sometimes it seems like things never change. Then everything changes overnight.

I think you meant to say, SOME THINGS will change overnight.

But, as I'm sure you would agree, the issues involved in Climate Change means that
it will take a great deal of time
to make any change (of substance) on the climate itself, if that is actually possible, at this late stage of proceedings.

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