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Re: The Cost Of Liberal Party's Inaction On CC
Reply #135 - Dec 9^th, 2010 at 6:17pm

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 9^th, 2010 at 6:07pm:

skippy. wrote on Dec 9^th, 2010 at 12:46pm:

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Climate Change/Global Warming is a perfectly natural phenomenon and nothing we do can accelerate it or deccelerate it....

It amazes me just how stupid people are that think all the pollution of the industrial age and particularly the last 60 years could not affect the environment. At least they're a minority. Shocked

and amazing how few environmentalists understand the concept of PROOF. given that the earth is a SELF-REPAIRING BIOSPHERE you need to actually PROVE the case that mankinds effects on the environment exceed earths ability to repair it.

If the greens could actually prove that climate change exists then they may get some credibility.

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Re: The Cost Of Liberal Party's Inaction On CC
Reply #136 - Dec 9^th, 2010 at 6:19pm

Miss Anne Dryst wrote on Dec 9^th, 2010 at 6:17pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 9^th, 2010 at 6:07pm:

skippy. wrote on Dec 9^th, 2010 at 12:46pm:

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Climate Change/Global Warming is a perfectly natural phenomenon and nothing we do can accelerate it or deccelerate it....

It amazes me just how stupid people are that think all the pollution of the industrial age and particularly the last 60 years could not affect the environment. At least they're a minority. Shocked

and amazing how few environmentalists understand the concept of PROOF. given that the earth is a SELF-REPAIRING BIOSPHERE you need to actually PROVE the case that mankinds effects on the environment exceed earths ability to repair it.

If the greens could actually prove that climate change exists then they may get some credibility.

They dont chase credibility. they chase protest. Protest voters dont look for credibility which is handy since most Greens policies are anything BUT credibile

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Re: The Cost Of Liberal Party's Inaction On CC
Reply #137 - Dec 9^th, 2010 at 6:29pm

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 9^th, 2010 at 6:19pm:

Miss Anne Dryst wrote on Dec 9^th, 2010 at 6:17pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 9^th, 2010 at 6:07pm:

skippy. wrote on Dec 9^th, 2010 at 12:46pm:

Quote:

Climate Change/Global Warming is a perfectly natural phenomenon and nothing we do can accelerate it or deccelerate it....

It amazes me just how stupid people are that think all the pollution of the industrial age and particularly the last 60 years could not affect the environment. At least they're a minority. Shocked

and amazing how few environmentalists understand the concept of PROOF. given that the earth is a SELF-REPAIRING BIOSPHERE you need to actually PROVE the case that mankinds effects on the environment exceed earths ability to repair it.

If the greens could actually prove that climate change exists then they may get some credibility.

They dont chase credibility. they chase protest. Protest voters dont look for credibility which is handy since most Greens policies are anything BUT credibile

SO true there longy.
Did you view the Cancun videos, showing how gullible the environmentalists/greens really are.

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Equitist Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 9632 NSW	Re: The Cost Of Liberal Party's Inaction On CC Reply #138 - Dec 9^th, 2010 at 8:13pm Humanity has had devastating impacts across the globe - especially over the last couple of hundred years of rapid industrialisation, mass urbanisation and wanton over-consumption... For instance, check this local map out: -
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Equitist Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 9632 NSW	Re: The Cost Of Liberal Party's Inaction On CC Reply #139 - Dec 9^th, 2010 at 8:38pm Now check out the chequered massacred landscape a little further north of Tamworth and Gunnedah...
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Verge Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6329 Gender:	Re: The Cost Of Liberal Party's Inaction On CC Reply #140 - Dec 9^th, 2010 at 8:41pm So what has the cost of the Labor Party inaction on climate change?
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Equitist Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 9632 NSW	Re: The Cost Of Liberal Party's Inaction On CC Reply #141 - Dec 9^th, 2010 at 8:45pm Now let's check out the scars on the landscape around Narrabri and Wee Waa...
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Equitist Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 9632 NSW	Re: The Cost Of Liberal Party's Inaction On CC Reply #142 - Dec 9^th, 2010 at 8:50pm Now a little further north - to Moree...
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Miss Anne Dryst Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2296 Sydney Gender:	Re: The Cost Of Liberal Party's Inaction On CC Reply #143 - Dec 9^th, 2010 at 8:52pm Verge wrote on Dec 9^th, 2010 at 8:41pm: So what has the cost of the Labor Party inaction on climate change? And what was the cost of the greens inaction on climate change?
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JC Denton Gold Member Offline Posts: 5477 Gender:	Re: The Cost Of Liberal Party's Inaction On CC Reply #144 - Dec 9^th, 2010 at 8:54pm How about this one, a person who is contributing to our net carbon emissions by spending their time performing the superfluous human activity of posting on an internet message board
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Re: The Cost Of Liberal Party's Inaction On CC
Reply #145 - Dec 9^th, 2010 at 9:15pm

skippy. wrote on Dec 9^th, 2010 at 2:58pm:

Climates changes if the factors that influence them fluctuate. To change climate on a global scale, either the amount of heat that is let into the system changes, or the amount of heat that is let out of the system changes.

do you understand this Gizmo?

Yes, and changes to climate affect the environment.....fairly simple..

Now tell me how changes to the environment change the amount of heat in or out of the system.....

Without resorting to any reference to man-made Co2 or Green House Gases....

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Re: The Cost Of Liberal Party's Inaction On CC
Reply #146 - Dec 9^th, 2010 at 9:22pm

JC Denton wrote on Dec 9^th, 2010 at 8:54pm:

How about this one, a person who is contributing to our net carbon emissions by spending their time performing the superfluous human activity of posting on an internet message board

Tongue

LOL...I've been absent for days and this is the kind of 'welcome back' that I get!?

Anyways...people were asking for "proof" of the impacts of humankind on the environment - what more can I do, othern than provide aerial views of the stark geometric man-made scars on the Australian landscape!?

How's about we play spot the stand of native Australian bush amongst the man-made scars in your own region!?

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Equitist Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 9632 NSW	Re: The Cost Of Liberal Party's Inaction On CC Reply #147 - Dec 9^th, 2010 at 9:25pm Now, let us look at the stark evidence of the environmental mess that humans have made in SA and Vic...
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Re: The Cost Of Liberal Party's Inaction On CC
Reply #148 - Dec 9^th, 2010 at 9:26pm

gizmo_2655 wrote on Dec 9^th, 2010 at 9:15pm:

skippy. wrote on Dec 9^th, 2010 at 2:58pm:

Climates changes if the factors that influence them fluctuate. To change climate on a global scale, either the amount of heat that is let into the system changes, or the amount of heat that is let out of the system changes.

do you understand this Gizmo?

Yes, and changes to climate affect the environment.....fairly simple..

Now tell me how changes to the environment change the amount of heat in or out of the system.....

Without resorting to any reference to man-made Co2 or Green House Gases....

Good luck with getting any response, much less chance to of getting anything that's sane.

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Re: The Cost Of Liberal Party's Inaction On CC
Reply #149 - Dec 9^th, 2010 at 9:32pm

gizmo_2655 wrote on Dec 9^th, 2010 at 9:15pm:

skippy. wrote on Dec 9^th, 2010 at 2:58pm:

Climates changes if the factors that influence them fluctuate. To change climate on a global scale, either the amount of heat that is let into the system changes, or the amount of heat that is let out of the system changes.

do you understand this Gizmo?

Yes, and changes to climate affect the environment.....fairly simple..

Now tell me how changes to the environment change the amount of heat in or out of the system.....

Without resorting to any reference to man-made Co2 or Green House Gases....

Perhaps, Gizmo et al, you could try to explain how you think that the scars on the landscapes in the regions pictured herein could not impact significantly upon the temperature of the soil, water and air...

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