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Reply #675 - Nov 14th, 2011 at 7:09pm
 
Eddie Hobbs knows what's going down.

There seems to be more people telling it how it is. I suppose it's so blaring obvious that there's no fix, that the truth can't be withheld any longer. At least we don't get many people ridiculing them any more, the scoffers have scoffed off, quietly scoffed off.
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Reply #676 - Nov 15th, 2011 at 10:54am
 
The world is locking itself into an unsustainable energy future which would have far-reaching consequences, IEA warns in its latest World Energy Outlook


Without a bold change of policy direction, the world will lock itself into an insecure, inefficient and high-carbon energy system, the International Energy Agency warned as it launched the 2011 edition of the World Energy Outlook (WEO). The agency‟s flagship publication, released today in London, said there is still time to act, but the window of opportunity is closing.

“Growth, prosperity and rising population will inevitably push up energy needs over the coming decades. But we cannot continue to rely on insecure and environmentally unsustainable uses of energy,” said IEA Executive Director Maria van der Hoeven.

“Governments need to introduce stronger measures to drive investment in efficient and low-carbon technologies. The Fukushima nuclear accident, the turmoil in parts of the Middle East and North Africa and a sharp rebound in energy demand in 2010 which pushed CO2 emissions to a record high, highlight the urgency and the scale of the challenge.”

In the WEO‟s central New Policies Scenario, which assumes that recent government commitments are implemented in a cautious manner, primary energy demand increases by one-third between 2010 and 2035, with 90% of the growth in non-OECD economies. China consolidates its position as the world’s largest energy consumer: it consumes nearly 70% more energy than the United States by 2035, even though, by then, per capita demand in China is still less than half the level in the United States. The share of fossil fuels in global primary energy consumption falls from around 81% today to 75% in 2035.

Renewables increase from 13% of the mix today to 18% in 2035; the growth in renewables is underpinned by subsidies that rise from $64 billion in 2010 to $250 billion in 2035, support that in some cases cannot be taken for granted in this age of fiscal austerity. By contrast, subsidies for fossil fuels amounted to $409 billion in 2010.

Short-term pressures on oil markets are easing with the economic slowdown and the expected return of Libyan supply. But the average oil price remains high, approaching $120/barrel (in year-2010 dollars) in 2035. Reliance grows on a small number of producers: the increase in output from Middle East and North Africa (MENA) is over 90% of the required growth in world oil output to 2035. If, between 2011 and 2015, investment in the MENA region runs one-third lower than the $100 billion per year required, consumers could face a near-term rise in the oil price to $150/barrel.

Oil demand rises from 87 million barrels per day (mb/d) in 2010 to 99 mb/d in 2035, with all the net growth coming from the transport sector in emerging economies. The passenger vehicle fleet doubles to almost 1.7 billion in 2035.
Alternative technologies, such as hybrid and electric vehicles that use oil more efficiently or not at all, continue to advance but they take time to penetrate markets.


The use of coal – which met almost half of the increase in global energy demand over the last decade – rises 65% by 2035. Prospects for coal are especially sensitive to energy policies – notably in China, which today accounts for almost half of global demand.

More efficient power plants and carbon capture and storage (CCS) technology could boost prospects for coal, but the latter still faces significant regulatory, policy and technical barriers that make its deployment uncertain.

Fukushima Daiichi has raised questions about the future role of nuclear power. In the New Policies Scenario, nuclear output rises by over 70% by 2035, only slightly less than projected last year, as most countries with nuclear programmes have reaffirmed their commitment to them.

A special Low Nuclear Case examines what would happen if the anticipated contribution of nuclear to future energy supply were to be halved. While providing a boost to renewables, such a slowdown would increase import bills, heighten energy security concerns and make it harder and more expensive to combat climate change.

The future for natural gas is more certain: its share in the energy mix rises and gas use almost catches up with coal consumption, underscoring key findings from a recent WEO Special Report which examined whether the world is entering a “Golden Age of Gas”. One country set to benefit from increased demand for gas is Russia, which is the subject of a special in-depth study in WEO-2011.

In the New Policies Scenario, cumulative CO2 emissions over the next 25 years amount to three-quarters of the total from the past 110 years, leading to a long-term average temperature rise of 3.5°C.
Were the new policies not implemented, we are on an even more dangerous track, to an increase of 6°C.


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Oil Demand may well continue to rise to 100 mb/d or so, by 2035, but Conventional Oil Production has already plateaued -  
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So, any increase will have to come via other sources, such as converted Coal & Gas, as well as via agriculture.

All of which will put huge stresses, into these other areas!
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Reply #677 - Nov 15th, 2011 at 11:56am
 
Of all the words, in all the world, there are a few words that may still be able to "move the world" again.
Those words are, "nothing, absolutely Nothing"!



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Reply #678 - Nov 18th, 2011 at 8:11am
 
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Reply #679 - Nov 22nd, 2011 at 10:37am
 
Shares set for a bloodbath as politicians fiddle



GLOBAL stockmarkets fall sharply as the US fails to agree on a way to reduce the federal deficit and Europe struggles to prevent debt crisis spreading.

Credit Suisse said in a note: "We seem to have entered the last days of the euro as we currently know it."

"Some extraordinary things will almost certainly need to happen - probably by mid-January - to prevent the progressive closure of all the euro zone sovereign bond markets, potentially accompanied by escalating runs on even the strongest banks."


But surely China can save the world?

Don’t bank on it.

Chinese Vice Premier Wang Qishan warned a long-term global recession was certain and China must focus on domestic problems, delivering a fresh blow to European leaders hoping China would use its financial clout to help the euro zone combat its debt crisis.



http://www.news.com.au/business/markets/shares-set-for-a-bloodbath-as-politician...



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"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace." Hendrix
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Reply #680 - Nov 22nd, 2011 at 11:05am
 
Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Nov 22nd, 2011 at 10:37am:
Shares set for a bloodbath as politicians fiddle



GLOBAL stockmarkets fall sharply as the US fails to agree on a way to reduce the federal deficit and Europe struggles to prevent debt crisis spreading.

Credit Suisse said in a note: "We seem to have entered the last days of the euro as we currently know it."

"Some extraordinary things will almost certainly need to happen - probably by mid-January - to prevent the progressive closure of all the euro zone sovereign bond markets, potentially accompanied by escalating runs on even the strongest banks."



But surely China can save the world?

Don’t bank on it.

Chinese Vice Premier Wang Qishan warned a long-term global recession was certain and China must focus on domestic problems, delivering a fresh blow to European leaders hoping China would use its financial clout to help the euro zone combat its debt crisis.



http://www.news.com.au/business/markets/shares-set-for-a-bloodbath-as-politician...





I concur, that does seem likely!

I can not see any likely OR extraordinary REAL factors, which could "solve" the Global Economic problems, but timing is still unknowable, except to those in the know (TPTB), until it happens!

That said, I can not see the "Political can kicking" succeeding in Europe, the US or Globally, beyond the end of 2012! 

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Reply #681 - Nov 24th, 2011 at 8:28am
 
Germany’s Auction ‘Disaster’ Stirs Crisis Concern


Germany failed to get bids for 35 percent of the 10-year bonds offered for sale today, propelling borrowing costs in Europe higher and the euro lower on concern the region’s debt crisis is driving away investors.

“This auction is nothing short of a disaster for Germany,”
Mark Grant, a managing director at Southwest Securities Inc. in Fort Lauderdale, Florida, said by e-mail. “If the strongest nation in Europe has this kind of difficulty raising capital, one shudders concerning the upcoming auctions in other European nations.”

Turmoil that began more than two years ago in Greece and snared Ireland, Portugal, Italy and Spain has closed in on France and now risks engulfing Germany, the region’s biggest economy.

Economic Shocks
France will have difficulty absorbing further large economic shocks without putting its top credit rating at risk, Fitch Ratings said today.

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As money continues chasing its own tail, it will eventually disappear, up its own ass, which was again reflected in the DOW (down 236 points)  & other European bourses overnight!

http://chart.finance.yahoo.com/zs=%5eDJI&t=1d&q=l&l=on&z=l&a=v&p=s&lang=en-AU&region=AU

http://www.forexpros.com/indices/world-indices
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Reply #682 - Nov 24th, 2011 at 9:02am
 
It's getting serious.

And this >>>>>>

Moody's threaten US downgrade

Could another downgrade of America’s credit rating be on the way? Moody’s Investor Service on Wednesday warned that that might exactly be the case.

The rating agency issued a statement today saying that while the congressional supercommittee’s failure to come to a compromise on the US deficit dilemma won’t necessarily trigger a downgrade, a change to the automatic cuts that are now set to go into play in 2013 will.

Moody’s — one of the top three credit rating agencies along with Standard and Poor’s and Fitch—has been on the verge of a downgrade throughout the debt crisis. Standard & Poor’s was the first (and so far only) agency to make such a downgrade, dropping the US’ credit from a triple-A rating back in August. Following that decision, Bank of America Merrill Lynch economist Ethan Harris wrote in October, "The credit rating agencies have strongly suggested that further rating cuts are likely if Congress does not come up with a credible long-run plan.”

At the time, Harris predicted that a downgrade from at least one credit agency would come before the close of 2011.

Full article at:

http://rt.com/usa/news/moodys-downgrade-us-091/print/
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Reply #683 - Nov 28th, 2011 at 11:34am
 
Biggs Cuts Bullish Stock Bets on Recession Risk

Barton Biggs, managing partner and co-founder of Traxis Partners LP, talks about the U.S. stock market and recession risk. Biggs, speaking with Betty Liu on Bloomberg Television's "In the Loop," also discusses investment strategy and the congressional deficit-reduction supercommittee

http://www.bloomberg.com/video/80865706/
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Stiglitz Sees Significant Risk of Europe Recession

Nobel Prize winner Joseph Stiglitz talks about the risk of a recession in Europe and fiscal policy. He speaks from Helsinki with Francine Lacqua on Bloomberg Television's "Countdown."

http://www.bloomberg.com/video/81345378/
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2012 May See the 'Death of Europe,' Says Shugg

James Shugg, a senior economist at Westpac Banking Corp., talks about the outlook for the euro zone in 2012 and the role of the European Central Bank in backing indebted nations.

http://www.bloomberg.com/video/81442070/
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U.K. Teetering on Brink of Recession, Says Barclays

Simon Hayes, chief U.K. economist at Barclays Capital, talks about the possibility of a recession in Britain.

http://www.bloomberg.com/video/81538748/
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Overnight, after being up a hundred points, in a short trading day, the DOW again lost steam towards the end and finished down 25!

11,231.94  
Down 25.61

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Reply #684 - Nov 28th, 2011 at 11:35am
 
House prices at risk from Europe crisis


As outgoing Commonwealth Bank chief Ralph Norris has told BusinessDay, the sovereign debt crisis in Europe is threatening to descend into a fully-fledged credit crisis where banks stop lending to each other.

The implications of another meltdown in credit markets are dire. Roughly a third of the funding for Australian mortgages comes from overseas bond markets. Were a third of the big banks' sources of capital to suddenly dry up so would credit for housing markets here. Ergo, price drops.

This is the government's greatest fear, that the great Aussie dream becomes a nightmare.

This credit market squeeze is, as they say, the worst case scenario - and one which was narrowly averted in 2008 at the time of the Lehman Brothers collapse and the Wall Street bailout.

Then, the US banks were way over-geared. Now it is the European banks; with their leverage of 25-times only a modest fall in asset prices renders them technically insolvent. Many say a large swathe of them are already insolvent.

Most are not in a position to lend - especially since their sovereign governments are battling to raise money themselves on bond markets. What chance does an Australian bank have of selling bits of paper (bonds) to investors if the government of Germany itself failed to get a bond issue away this week?

Euro zone rescue
The consensus on markets is that this encroaching credit crisis Mark II won't be averted until European leaders get their act together with a rescue plan for the euro zone, or commit US-style to printing trillions of dollars in new money.

Germany, with its haunting memories of the Weimar Republic, rampant inflation and the rise of fascism, is holding off on the printing-press option.

Lest mortgage holders here fear a credit squeeze, and consequently falling house prices if conditions sharply deteriorate, there is also impending relief.

If banks do continue to lend to each other, and Europe gets its act together, rates should fall.

Downbeat view
The upbeat outlook for interest rates is squarely and proportionately due to the downbeat outlook for world markets.

There are few better indicators of the health and direction of the global economy than the Australian dollar. The Aussie dollar is a proxy for China, for global growth, for optimism itself, and it is now changing hands at 97.35 US cents, down 12 per cent from its July highs.

As the crisis in Europe deepened this week, and the deadlock over the US debt reduction plans remained unresolved, further economic releases from China spurred concerns that economic growth was slowing there as well (while fears flared anew over property price falls).

Vice-Premier Wang Qishan was quoted by China's official news agency Xinhua that global recession was a certainty. "The one thing that we can be certain of, among all the uncertainties, is that the global economic recession caused by the international financial crisis will be chronic".

Poll: How will house prices change over the next 12 months?

Fall by 10% or more     44%
Fall by 0-10%     26%

Little changed     21%
Rise by 0-10%     4%
Rise by 10% or more     5%

Total votes: 15913
Poll closed 27 Nov, 2011

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http://www.smh.com.au/business/property/house-prices-at-risk-from-europe-crisis-...
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A few observations -
1) The Germans would be correct, if they are thinking that the "printing press" option would lead to rampant inflation.
It would also lead to an unmitigated Global Economic disaster!
2) It seems from the Housing Poll that the Public MAY be catching on, that there is change in the wind?  

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Reply #685 - Nov 28th, 2011 at 11:35am
 
The Economy Is In Jeopardy


The economy is at one of those crossroads where something is going to happen. Whether that will be a positive or a negative is often difficult to tell because at any time one of those "Black Swans" could land in our midst and change everything. Plans are fluid and and forecasting can be quixotic. That said I believe that we are at a critical point and the U.S. economy is heading for a fall.

Industrial production is continuing a flat to declining trend that has been going on since Q2 2010. Manufacturing has shown recent growth but it mirrors the negative to flat trend.

Prices are starting to decline both at the producer and consumer level. Oil prices are likely to decline as worldwide economic activity slows. But, as we know, political shocks from producers can alter this forecast dramatically.

Retail sales, adjusted for price inflation continue to be flat to declining.

Credit conditions are still tight at the consumer level, and business credit still suffers from lack of demand.

Exports have been a primary driver of the economy and have rebounded substantially post-Crash as a result of a devalued dollar.

European economic problems have caused a significant influx of money into the U.S. and that has been parked in Treasurys.

Unemployment is high. At 9% there are 13.9 million unemployed, while the broader measure of unemployed (U-6) is 25 million. While unemployment has been dropping at a snail's pace, jobs are not being created at a sufficient rate to substantially reduce unemployment.

Real disposable income is falling.

Personal savings have fallen from a post-Crash high of 5.8% in June, 2010, to 3.6% as of Sept., 2011 because consumers are using savings to fund consumption.

GDP is static rather than growing and the latest Q3 boost will likely not continue.

Auto sales are related to pent-up demand and are not likely to be sustained.

The top 5% of earners account for 37% of all consumer spending and it they who are supporting consumer spending. There is no broad based consumer spending rally.

Household debt ($13.9 trillion) is still historically very high and has not been substantially reduced.

U.S. sovereign debt is 100% of GDP ($15 trillion and growing).

All government spending (federal, state, and local) comprises 45.6% of GDP.

The euro crisis will have a substantial impact on the rest of the world, including the U.S. According to recent data, the world is heading into recession in almost all economies.

The federal government is currently running a $1.3 trillion annual deficit.

Unfunded liabilities for Social Security, Medicare, and prescription drug (Part D) are $116.4 trillion and growing. This does not include the pending problem with student loans (Sallie Mae) or obligations to GSEs.

The MF Global problem is indicative of a declining economy. In a declining economy, company weaknesses tend to be revealed, as with Lehman.

Oil price have risen from $40 bbl post Crash to $110 bbl in April, 2011, and presently are at $97 bbl. Such oil price increases are associated with and often presage recessions.

Bank balance sheets are still weak because they do not book asset values at market,
they seems to not properly book troubled loans, and they are encumbered by a substantial amount of malinvested assets that have not been liquidated.

47 million Americans (15%) are on Food Stamps. 48.5% of the population lived in a household that received some type of government benefit in the first quarter of 2010.

Americans' are pessimistic about their future and the future of America according to almost all recent polls.

An angry and disaffected population in America is potentially politically dangerous.

What is important when looking at the data is to spot trends rather than specific numbers. I have what I believe is a healthy skepticism about the reports from the multitude of federal agencies that I follow on a regular basis. They are often revised and probably understate the negatives. That is especially so with price inflation.

Crossroads Always Are Difficult
We are at a crossroad because with the world sliding into recession/depression, with the U.S. economy living off of exports, with a high level of unliquidated malinvestment, with a dearth of productive capital, and with money supply set to decrease, we are headed for economic decline which will impact the U.S. economy by Q2-2012 at the latest.

Outcomes
Recent indicators show that most major economies are slowing down, perhaps heading into recession.

The EU is in crisis and weak governments threaten to jeopardize the EMU and the euro. The remedies proposed by the eurozone require bankrupt states to cut spending and increase taxes. This will create economic disruption and economic decline in the countries being bailed out. Greece may withdraw from the EMU.

If the EMU chooses to inflate (print money through sovereign debt monetization), the euro will continue to decline as the result of price inflation. But, it is likely that will only temporarily relieve the pressure on bankrupt countries and their creditors.
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Reply #686 - Nov 28th, 2011 at 11:36am
 
The Economy Is In Jeopardy (Cont)


U.S. exporters will face declining sales as a result of economic slowdowns in their markets. Pressures on the euro may give the dollar a temporary boost.

The U.S. economy will decline and we will see this not later than Q2-2012.

U.S. unemployment will increase.

The Fed will engage in QE3 as a result of political pressure on them to act.

The Fed may charge interest on excess reserves to encourage banks to lend. This policy will not create loan demand.

QE3 is likely to kick off another round of euphoria in the financial markets, but this time corporate earnings will not be found to support price levels. The euphoria will be short-lived.

U.S. savings will decline as consumers turn to savings to fund their living expenses.

U.S. banks will accelerate write-downs of CRE debt.

Housing will continue to decline in the most vulnerable markets and will remain stagnant in other markets.

At best, the economy will stagnate as monetary inflation continues to destroy real capital.


If there are successive rounds of QE, each round will be less effective as more real capital is destroyed, but it will result in price inflation.

New And Old Dangers
As this never-ending business cycle drags on (we are in the fourth year of this recession), there are further dangers at this stage of the cycle. These issues involve political as well as economic considerations. It will require US all to do more critical thinking about the long term preservation of our wealth and the future of our society.

1. As things get worse, the Fed will yield to the demands of politicians to do something, and since they have run out of arrows in their policy quiver, they will do what all central banks do best: print money by more QE.

Assuming that unemployment rises to levels that will panic politicians (say, 12%), we can expect the Fed to do far more monetary expansion than Chairman Bernanke hints at. In a panic, they will always "print" money.

This raises the specter of high price inflation and even hyperinflation.

2. Fiscal stimulus will not be a viable policy tool in the near term whether or not the Republicans win the presidency. However, I am cynical enough to believe that in an environment where unemployment grows to much higher levels, that even the Republicans will "do something" which will probably be futile massive spending on infrastructure as in Japan.

3. U.S. national debt is unacceptably high and with governments' current share of economic activity at 45.6% of GDP, this will act as a further brake on the economy. This is known as the Rahn Curve principle, where after a certain point it discourages investment and growth by the private sector. I believe we are at that point or close to it.

The Rahn Curve aside, the weaker the economy becomes, and as debt remains high, the cost of funding our federal debt service may double as our credit rating is dinged.

4. The European crisis is not just a European crisis, it's a worldwide crisis because a collapse of the European Monetary Union would cause financial chaos. Declining output in most EU countries will act as an accelerant of the problem because the bailouts are based on economic growth which would allow the bailed countries to meet certain fiscal targets. We may liken their banking crisis to the 2008 Crash that emanated from the U.S. and spread to the rest of the world. This is an unknown quantity at this time. Will the ECB print or not? Will the Germans keep banging their fiscal responsibility drum and oppose the ECB's purchase of members' sovereign debt? If they don't print, then there is a good possibility that countries other than Greece will fail and the European banking system will be put in jeopardy. Printing is not a fix but it will put the problem off for a while.

5. Political dissatisfaction is high. This is not uncommon in times of economic stress. But there are fundamental changes in attitudes about the role of government in society.

People now believe that government can solve their problems but that partisan bickering is preventing politicians from achieving a "solution." That is quite different than saying government doesn't work and it is the cause of our problems.

Note:
Official price indices are in my opinion not accurate reflections of what prices are in the economy. There are other indices that may be more realistic and match consumers' every day experiences. I like Shadowstats.

Links -
http://seekingalpha.com/article/309918-the-economy-is-in-jeopardy-part-1?ifp=0&s...

http://seekingalpha.com/article/309920-the-economy-is-in-jeopardy-part-2?ifp=0&s...
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There is a lot more in this article and I reccommend it!

As usual, there are a number of issues raised, where I agree, but some where I disagree.

In fact, there will always be agreement & disagreement over Political, Economic and almost all other issues.

That said, in respect of Economics, Personal, National & Global, my aim is to provide information, which in the main will present alternatives to the main stream media & Politics.

By doing so, my hope is that you will be forearmed with sufficient knowledge, to enable YOU to make your own value judgements, on what is likely and what is best for you & your future!

Good luck & watch the Debt!
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Reply #687 - Nov 28th, 2011 at 11:58am
 
Futures rise in electronic trade on Europe hopes


NEW YORK (Reuters) - U.S. stock futures jumped in early electronic trading on Sunday on the latest round of proposals out of Europe designed to corral the growing euro zone debt crisis.

U.S. stocks suffered their worst week in two months last week. The lack of a credible solution to Europe's debt crisis kept investors away from risky assets and downgrades of Belgium and Hungary added to the gloom.

Germany and France are exploring radical ways to integrate euro zone countries in order to impose tighter budget control. In addition, media reports that the International Monetary Fund was preparing a rescue plan for Italy bolstered sentiment.

S&P 500 futures rose 21 points. Dow Jones industrial average futures gained 146 points, and Nasdaq 100 futures were up 26 points.

The U.S. market's seven-day losing streak attracted early short-covering as Asian markets traded higher and the euro rebounded from recent losses. But recent rallies on hopes for a solution have not lasted long.

Last week, the S&P 500 fell 4.7 percent, giving back almost two-thirds of its gains in October, the market's best month in 20 years. The Dow was off 4.8 percent for the week and the Nasdaq fell 5.1 percent.

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Another bout of buy on the rumour, sell on the fact!

That said, DOW Futures currently UP 186.
http://www.forexpros.com/indices/us-30-futures-advanced-chart

And, the All Ords UP 76.
http://chart.finance.yahoo.com/zs=%5eAORD&t=1d&q=l&l=on&z=l&a=v&p=s&lang=en-AU&region=AU
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Reply #688 - Nov 29th, 2011 at 5:22am
 
Thanks Perceptions.....it's crazy out there, no other way to describe it.

I will follow some of those links later today.

Best advice.....try really, really hard to be as debt free as you possibly can, every dollar in your pocket will count in the coming decade.
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Reply #689 - Nov 29th, 2011 at 8:24am
 
Just when you thought it couldn't get worse.
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Fed secretly handed out $8 trillion


We knew the last bailout from the Federal Reserve was pretty big, but not until now did we have statistics on the actual tally. If you thought that the $700 billion bailout for TARP was big, get a load of this.

Just exactly how big was the Federal Reserve’s bailout of the banks between the years of 2008 and 2010? Thanks to a Federal Request of Information Act gone fulfilled, America now knows the truth behind a colossal cover-up: almost $8 trillion.

Ever since the Fed stepped in to bail out the biggest banks in the country, Ben Bernanke and company have gone to great lengths to keep the exact details of the transactions a secret, citing that the truth would cause concern for the world financial crisis far greater than what was already at hand, saying in particular that investors would step away from the “too big to fail” banks that were benefiting from the bailout. And while Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke went on the record to call the bailouts to even the most “sound institutions” only “marginal,” details of the FOIA request obtained by Bloomberg News now reveals that the Federal Reserve spent nearly half of the entire production output of the US during that span of less than two years — the biggest bailout in the country’s history — while going to great lengths to keep Congress and the American people in the dark.

By March of 2009, the Fed had already dished out $7.77 trillion to save the US financial system, dwarfing other assistance programs several times over. As the financial sector was on the brink of collapse, neither the Fed nor the banks involved came clean with the truth, instead lying through their teeth to keep the total facts a mystery. Until now.

While the banks kept the bailout a secret from Congress, they lobbied to the Legislative Branch to imply more lax governmental regulations on the industry, something that would haven arguably been near impossible had the truth surfaced at the time.

The website Naked Capitalism explains it pretty clearly in not so many words: “The bottom line is everybody close to the process lied like crazy.”

On November 26, 2008, Bank of America Chief Executive Officer Kenneth D. Lewis told shareholders that he ran “one of the strongest and most stable major banks in the world.” On that very day, BofA was indebted to the Fed something to the tune of nearly $90 billion. Less than two weeks later, the Federal Reserve blew $1.2 trillion total in a single day to bail out the breaking financial institutions.

All the while, of course, banks were borrowing loans at interest rates of as low as 0.01 percent. “No one calculated until now that banks reaped an estimated $13 billion of income by taking advantage of the Fed’s below-market rates,” writes Bloomberg now.

That’s not the worst part, either. As the Fed continues to operate without oversight from the Executive, Legislative and Judicial branches, further bailouts are guaranteed to keep being generated at the cost of the American taxpayer while a recession still seems imminent — if not already occurring. Critics including presidential hopeful Congressman Ron Paul have lobbied to abolish the Federal Reserve once and for all. Could the next president help make that dream a reality? In the meantime, don’t be surprised if billions get borrowed at America’s expense minute by minute.

http://rt.com/usa/news/fed-trillion-reserve-bailout-401/print/
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