you lost a long time ago abu.
when you refused to answer questions or say other weirdo muslamic freaks were wrong

ALL europe has had the runs with your repressive uneducated arrogant violent type that refuse to assimilate.

throw you all back into the sea

abu_rashid wrote on Dec 13^th, 2010 at 8:16pm:




How ridiculous.  The 'Muslim lands' were non-Muslim majority for centuries after they were conquered. The 'flocking' was very grudging and was due to the dhimmi status of non-muslims, which meant heavy extra taxes and severe social restrictions on them.

That 'flocking' was very much like the Germans flocking to communism: the East Germans had to build a wall, don't you know, to prevent the West Germans from flocking to the East...... In Islam that wall is called apostasy, carrying the death penalty for leaving Islam.


Look at the kind of people who convert to Islam today. And look at the Muslims leaving it or ignoring it.i

Well I'm sure you can make your own rules of self-preservation for Christianity... Islam looks out for Muslims. It gives rights to others, but it's not going to actively promote their religions now is it?

Up until very recently the Christian rule has been "When we conquer a land, all non-Christians either convert or die (forget about their places of worship)" and that's when the Christians were feeling kind... when they weren't, only the second option was available.

Well why not the 1990's in Bosnia & Chechnya?

The 1800's in Ottoman lands that were overrun by the Greeks were pretty horrific too, ripping unborn babies from their mother's wombs, hurling toddlers alive into the oceans etc.

abu_rashid wrote on Dec 13^th, 2010 at 8:16pm:



October 10, 732 AD marks the conclusion of the Battle of Tours, arguably one of the most decisive battles in all of history.

A Muslim army, in a crusading search for land and the end of Christianity, after the conquest of Syria, Egypt, and North Africa, began to invade Western Europe under the leadership of Abd-er Rahman, governor of Spain. Abd-er Rahman led an infantry of 60,000 to 400,000 soldiers across the Western Pyrenees and toward the Loire River, but they were met just outside the city of Tours by Charles Martel, known as the Hammer, and the Frankish Army.

Martel gathered his forces directly in the path of the oncoming Muslim army and prepared to defend themselves by using a phalanx style of combat. The invading Muslims rushed forward, relying on the slashing tactics and overwhelming number of horsemen that had brought them victories in the past. However, the French Army, composed of foot soldiers armed only with swords, shields, axes, javelins, and daggers, was well trained. Despite the effectiveness of the Muslim army in previous battles, the terrain caused them a disadvantage. Their strength lay within their cavalry, armed with large swords and lances, which along with their baggage mules, limited their mobility. The French army displayed great ardency in withstanding the ferocious attack. It was one of the rare times in the Middle Ages when infantry held its ground against a mounted attack. The exact length of the battle is undetermined; Arab sources claim that it was a two day battle whereas Christian sources hold that the fighting clamored on for seven days. In either case, the battle ended when the French captured and killed Abd-er Rahman. The Muslim army withdrew peacefully overnight and even though Martel expected a surprise retaliation, there was none. For the Muslims, the death of their leader caused a sharp setback and they had no choice but to retreat back across the Pyrenees, never to return again.

Not only did this prove to be a decisive battle for the Christians, but the Battle of Tours is considered the high water mark of the Muslim invasion of Western Europe.



You need to read more history Abu, it might save you typing dribble and then trying to peddle it as fact.

abu_rashid wrote on Nov 25^th, 2010 at 8:10pm:


There's lots of pre-christian religious sites still in Europe....England and Western Europe have over 1000 stone circles like Stonehenge still standing, plus countless Barrows, Stone Rows and Dolmens...

abu_rashid wrote on Dec 15^th, 2010 at 8:04pm:



I'm assuming, by 'adherents', you mean any of the 10,000 Druids, currently worshipping in England??

"Ancient Druids were known to be religious leaders, judges and sages among the Celts during pre-Christian times, although little evidence about their lives survived. There are now various Druid orders and about 10,000 practitioners in Britain – and believers said the numbers are growing because more people are becoming aware of the importance to preserve the environment."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/10/03/uk-druids-religion-recognized-for-first-time_n_748369.html

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