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Reply #30 - Nov 22nd, 2010 at 12:32pm
 
gizmo_2655 wrote on Nov 22nd, 2010 at 12:31pm:
tickfen wrote on Nov 22nd, 2010 at 12:27pm:
gizmo_2655 wrote on Nov 22nd, 2010 at 12:25pm:
tickfen wrote on Nov 22nd, 2010 at 12:21pm:
gizmo_2655 wrote on Nov 22nd, 2010 at 12:20pm:
tickfen wrote on Nov 22nd, 2010 at 12:19pm:
skippy. wrote on Nov 22nd, 2010 at 12:15pm:
tickfen wrote on Nov 22nd, 2010 at 12:08pm:
Stupid thread about a sample poll.
The poll was hardly the majority of Australians, and the source have not revealed what number of people was actually polled either.

So pick a number and we'll use that as the number of the sample polled.

When you read the LINK for the first time meeeelie, you'll see the poll was taken on 1400 people, the same sort of size as polls taken on voting intention and considered to be a reasonable assessment of peoples intentions by most pollsters.
Please show us a poll, other than an election, where most Australians were polled, if not pizz off with your multiple nicks and stop trolling with your attention seeking bulls hit.
In fact, the same number are even mentioned in the thread you started yourself, under one of your other nicks.




Wow dipster, 1400, guess that is the majority of Australians!



bwaaaaaaaaaaaahaaaaaaaaaaaaaa


Certainly a large enough group to produce a fair random sample though Tick...



No it isnt, no where near enough.

If the sample we at least 10,000 then maybe you could make  a comment otherwise its stupid to do so.




No not really, any number over about 200 is enough to get a general feel of public opinion.....
As long as the number is large enough to be too many to have been in one place (like a club or shopping centre or a single suburb) you can get a good idea of public attitudes....a thousand+ is a pretty accurate way to check....




HA HA HA HA HA



whered this arbitrary figure of 200 come from sunshine?



My gawd the intelligence or lack thereof of some people.
If 200 were the minimum then youd be able to do a poll at the local dunnies at night where George Michael, skippy & pansi are hanging out!




Yeah, THAT is why I said 'over 200'.....

You'd also get less than 200 at the local gay bashers club house or footy club.....

Try it yourself....
Head to the local shopping centre, with a clip board, and ask MORE than 200 people (at various times, on various days) for their opinions on gay marriage/gay civil unions......and see how you go...




201 is greater ....the point being a sample of 200 or even 1400 is insignificant and only brain dead morons would give it any credit.
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Re: Aussies support gay marriage
Reply #31 - Nov 22nd, 2010 at 12:33pm
 
gizmo_2655 wrote on Nov 22nd, 2010 at 12:31pm:
tickfen wrote on Nov 22nd, 2010 at 12:27pm:
gizmo_2655 wrote on Nov 22nd, 2010 at 12:25pm:
tickfen wrote on Nov 22nd, 2010 at 12:21pm:
gizmo_2655 wrote on Nov 22nd, 2010 at 12:20pm:
tickfen wrote on Nov 22nd, 2010 at 12:19pm:
skippy. wrote on Nov 22nd, 2010 at 12:15pm:
tickfen wrote on Nov 22nd, 2010 at 12:08pm:
Stupid thread about a sample poll.
The poll was hardly the majority of Australians, and the source have not revealed what number of people was actually polled either.

So pick a number and we'll use that as the number of the sample polled.

When you read the LINK for the first time meeeelie, you'll see the poll was taken on 1400 people, the same sort of size as polls taken on voting intention and considered to be a reasonable assessment of peoples intentions by most pollsters.
Please show us a poll, other than an election, where most Australians were polled, if not pizz off with your multiple nicks and stop trolling with your attention seeking bulls hit.
In fact, the same number are even mentioned in the thread you started yourself, under one of your other nicks.




Wow dipster, 1400, guess that is the majority of Australians!



bwaaaaaaaaaaaahaaaaaaaaaaaaaa


Certainly a large enough group to produce a fair random sample though Tick...



No it isnt, no where near enough.

If the sample we at least 10,000 then maybe you could make  a comment otherwise its stupid to do so.




No not really, any number over about 200 is enough to get a general feel of public opinion.....
As long as the number is large enough to be too many to have been in one place (like a club or shopping centre or a single suburb) you can get a good idea of public attitudes....a thousand+ is a pretty accurate way to check....




HA HA HA HA HA



whered this arbitrary figure of 200 come from sunshine?



My gawd the intelligence or lack thereof of some people.
If 200 were the minimum then youd be able to do a poll at the local dunnies at night where George Michael, skippy & pansi are hanging out!




Yeah, THAT is why I said 'over 200'.....

You'd also get less than 200 at the local gay bashers club house or footy club.....

Try it yourself....
Head to the local shopping centre, with a clip board, and ask MORE than 200 people (at various times, on various days) for their opinions on gay marriage/gay civil unions......and see how you go...




you need a representative sample, not something that is queuing up outside skippys dunny!
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Reply #32 - Nov 28th, 2010 at 8:06pm
 
Finance Minister Penny Wong has ratcheted up the pressure on the Federal Government over same-sex marriage, backing a South Australian branch move to vote for a national change.

At the party's state convention yesterday, Senator Wong spoke in favour of a motion which calls on the ALP national convention to support the legal right of all couples to be married, regardless of their gender.

She told delegates she has been pushing for Labor to change its platform.

"I will be advocating for our party to support equality including to in relation to marriage or same-sex couples and I do so because I have a deeply held commitment to equality," she said.

The openly gay senator drew criticism before the federal election for saying she supported Labor's position opposing same-sex marriage.

Meanwhile, around 1,000 people yesterday turned up to a march in Sydney calling for equal marriage rights for same-sex couples.

The crowd gathered outside Sydney's Town Hall and marched up Oxford Street after a mock wedding and speeches.

New South Wales Labor Senator Doug Cameron told the cheering crowd he believed there was growing political support to change the Commonwealth Marriage Act.

But he said the campaign for change would be hard.

"The growing political and community support for marriage equality will result in an historic change to the Marriage Act," he said.

"This will be a tough campaign. Love and commitment should be the test, not outdated and discriminatory acts of parliament."

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Reply #33 - Nov 28th, 2010 at 8:29pm
 
A poll of 1400, dippy`s been asking around in the gay bar again.
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Reply #34 - Nov 28th, 2010 at 9:04pm
 
Gay mrriage is a re-definition of marriage. It is a language game (ie charades). Non-gays will migrate away from 'marriage' and will call it sometheing else - until the gays come after that definition.

Gay 'marriage' is not about marriage (dogs don't walk on their hindlegs in nature). It is a drive to pretend that homo is hetero. Evidently it isn't but PC is about language games.

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Reply #35 - Nov 28th, 2010 at 9:07pm
 
Soren wrote on Nov 28th, 2010 at 9:04pm:
Gay mrriage is a re-definition of marriage. It is a language game (ie charades). Non-gays will migrate away from 'marriage' and will call it sometheing else - until the gays come after that definition.

Gay 'marriage' is not about marriage (dogs don't walk on their hindlegs in nature). It is a drive to pretend that homo is hetero. Evidently it isn't but PC is about language games.





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Reply #36 - Nov 29th, 2010 at 6:18am
 
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Gay 'marriage' is not about marriage (dogs don't walk on their hindlegs in nature). It is a drive to pretend that homo is hetero. Evidently it isn't but PC is about language games


Since homosexuality was legalised sometime in the 80's - a huge proportion of our society has come out of the closet. Why should they lead a life of misery pretending they're straight and why shouldn't they have the same rights as everyone else?

Most people couldn't give a stuff whether gays marry - so wouldn't it be easier just to pass the damn bill and move onto more important issues?

It is not just a Greens' issue - it is a social issue. It's not going to affect hetero marriage. If marriage was such a respected institution - why do the majority of married couples separate or divorce?


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Reply #37 - Nov 29th, 2010 at 6:26am
 
mantra wrote on Nov 29th, 2010 at 6:18am:
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It is not just a Greens' issue - it is a social issue. It's not going to affect hetero marriage. If marriage was such a respected institution - why do the majority of married couples separate or divorce?





Self defeating argument.
Dogs will mean cats too.
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Reply #38 - Nov 29th, 2010 at 6:29am
 
Miss Anne Dryst wrote on Nov 29th, 2010 at 6:26am:
Self defeating argument.
Dogs will mean cats too.


Dogs and cats fall into the category of animal.

Homosexual and heterosexual people fall into the category of human.

Unless you believe homosexuals should fall into some other category - and if so - what would that be?
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Reply #39 - Nov 29th, 2010 at 6:32am
 
mantra wrote on Nov 29th, 2010 at 6:29am:
Miss Anne Dryst wrote on Nov 29th, 2010 at 6:26am:
Self defeating argument.
Dogs will mean cats too.


Dogs and cats fall into the category of animal.

Homosexual and heterosexual people fall into the category of human.

Unless you believe homosexuals should fall into some other category - and if so - what would that be?




Homosexuals want to use the heterosexual term marriage.

Dogs will mean cats too.
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Reply #40 - Nov 29th, 2010 at 7:39am
 
mantra wrote on Nov 29th, 2010 at 6:18am:
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Gay 'marriage' is not about marriage (dogs don't walk on their hindlegs in nature). It is a drive to pretend that homo is hetero. Evidently it isn't but PC is about language games


Since homosexuality was legalised sometime in the 80's - a huge proportion of our society has come out of the closet. Why should they lead a life of misery pretending they're straight and why shouldn't they have the same rights as everyone else?

Most people couldn't give a stuff whether gays marry - so wouldn't it be easier just to pass the damn bill and move onto more important issues?

It is not just a Greens' issue - it is a social issue. It's not going to affect hetero marriage. If marriage was such a respected institution - why do the majority of married couples separate or divorce?





Mantra, I would respectfully suggest that you have no idea what "most people"  think on this issue.

You might have some idea of the opinions of a minute number of fringe dwellers, but not the broader community.
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Reply #41 - Nov 29th, 2010 at 7:54am
 
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Mantra, I would respectfully suggest that you have no idea what "most people"  think on this issue.

You might have some idea of the opinions of a minute number of fringe dwellers, but not the broader community.


Is that why the Liberals are warming up to the idea of passing a Bill? Will this affect their popularity if some of the Libs dare speak up and say they support gay marriage? Phillip Ruddock has a gay daughter and I assume he will also vote for the bill.

I think you might be the one listening to the fringe dwellers.

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Mr Hunter said his co-sponsored Bill would now be introduced next year and said Senator Wong's statement would have a "massive" impact on Labor members.

He said some members of the Right faction, including Treasurer Kevin Foley, had indicated to him they supported gay marriage.
"It is clear that the Right is not one homogenous unit and a lot of them, including some very senior people, do support same-sex marriage," Mr Hunter said.


http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/south-australia/wongs-gay-marriage-push-gathe...
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Reply #42 - Nov 29th, 2010 at 8:52am
 
I must say this whole thing about a pair of woofters getting married is incredibly tedious.

It's been this way for decades and decades.

Don't we have greater things to worry about than this non-issue?

Let's just leave things as they are and be done with it.
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Reply #43 - Nov 29th, 2010 at 8:57am
 
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Nov 29th, 2010 at 8:52am:
I must say this whole thing about a pair of woofters getting married is incredibly tedious.

It's been this way for decades and decades.

Don't we have greater things to worry about than this non-issue?

Let's just leave things as they are and be done with it.

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andrei we all know you will have a meltdown if this happens...lol.. sorry to laugh but you do get a bit hot and bothered by it..

I wonder about gay divorce do you think it will be the same as hetros'....

or will they be more civilised about it..
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Reply #44 - Nov 29th, 2010 at 11:41am
 
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Most people couldn't give a stuff whether gays marry - so wouldn't it be easier just to pass the damn bill and move onto more important issues?

It is not just a Greens' issue - it is a social issue. It's not going to affect hetero marriage. If marriage was such a respected institution - why do the majority of married couples separate or divorce?





If 'most people don't give a stuff' why bother changing anything?

The case for change has not been sufficiently made, so lets not waste anymore time on indulging this childish temper tantrum.  Ya know they only want it cos they can't have it.
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