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Reply #540 - Nov 21^st, 2010 at 5:20pm

jame-e wrote on Nov 21^st, 2010 at 5:18pm:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Nov 21^st, 2010 at 5:00pm:

jame-e wrote on Nov 21^st, 2010 at 4:47pm:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6H9qoLto3nM

Smug bloody leb, or whateva the hell he is, bloody theif!

Give us our jobs back... no, take them away, no... just go home ya good for nothin crook.

I'm never sure if you are taking the piss now jame_e

BEEEAAAUUUTIFUL!!!!!!!

It brought tears to my eyes. From war torn refugee to business award woohoo!

I was just taking a piss... if that helps

Were you pretending to drown boat people while you were pissing? and I hope you washed your hands.

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andrei said: Great isn't it? Seeing boatloads of what is nothing more than human garbage turn up.....

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Reply #541 - Nov 21^st, 2010 at 5:29pm

Actually absolutly incorrect - many of the refugee claiments arrive by air, about 10 to 1 more than by boat, they are not tourists and they have no intention of going home. Many claim refugee status and are processed the same way as boat arrivals.

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okay dna.. you keep bringing that up so are you saying that Qantas or Singapore Airlines are the people smugglers of the air.. is that what you are telling us???.. figures figures.. we need the figures..6000 by boat so far.. so 10 times that is an awful lot coming through Mascot.... dont you have to have a visa or something to come here I just watch the TV shows.. and immigration seem to pull them in left right and centre...I am not referring to asylum seekers.. just anyone coming here.. they have to have a reason...not just dropping in to see what the welfare system is like..anyone can come dna as long as its legal..

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Reply #542 - Nov 21^st, 2010 at 5:35pm

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Nov 21^st, 2010 at 5:20pm:

jame-e wrote on Nov 21^st, 2010 at 5:18pm:

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Nov 21^st, 2010 at 5:00pm:

jame-e wrote on Nov 21^st, 2010 at 4:47pm:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6H9qoLto3nM

Smug bloody leb, or whateva the hell he is, bloody theif!

Give us our jobs back... no, take them away, no... just go home ya good for nothin crook.

I'm never sure if you are taking the piss now jame_e

BEEEAAAUUUTIFUL!!!!!!!

It brought tears to my eyes. From war torn refugee to business award woohoo!

I was just taking a piss... if that helps

Were you pretending to drown boat people while you were pissing? and I hope you washed your hands.

I always wash my hands. Beforehand offcourse, the gems these people bring, sheeesh

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Reply #543 - Nov 21^st, 2010 at 5:39pm

aussiefree2ride wrote on Nov 20^th, 2010 at 9:15pm:

Do the plane people sneak onboard?

Tick`s point was actually more pertinant than all of your contributions to date. [/quote]

Do Boat people sneak on board? - well actually no they don't - I do not see how any comment could be less pertinant or have missed the mark by further.

Do many realise that most boat people travel to Indonesia by air?

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Reply #544 - Nov 21^st, 2010 at 5:46pm

codswal wrote on Nov 21^st, 2010 at 5:29pm:

Actually absolutly incorrect - many of the refugee claiments arrive by air, about 10 to 1 more than by boat, they are not tourists and they have no intention of going home. Many claim refugee status and are processed the same way as boat arrivals.

xxx

okay dna.. you keep bringing that up so are you saying that Qantas or Singapore Airlines are the people smugglers of the air.. is that what you are telling us???.. figures figures.. we need the figures..6000 by boat so far.. so 10 times that is an awful lot coming through Mascot.... dont you have to have a visa or something to come here I just watch the TV shows.. and immigration seem to pull them in left right and centre...I am not referring to asylum seekers.. just anyone coming here.. they have to have a reason...not just dropping in to see what the welfare system is like..anyone can come dna as long as its legal..

Cods - read the post with this information linked. here another copy.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/nation/refugees-pay-40000-to-come-by-plane/...

ASYLUM-seekers are arriving in Australia by air in numbers that dwarf boat arrivals, after paying people-smugglers up to $US40,000, for a package that includes airfares, false passports and forged Australian visas.
The racket has been revealed by a Sri Lankan refugee who was granted a protection visa after arriving in Australia in April on false travel documents supplied by a professional people-smuggler in Malaysia.

Figures from the Department of Immigration and Citizenship show the number of asylum-seekers who arrive by plane dwarfs the numbers who arrive by boat. A DIAC spokesman said that, in 2008-09, 206 people were granted protection visas after arriving in Australia by boat, while 2172 received protection after arriving by plane.

The total number of plane arrivals who applied for refugee status in that period was 5076. A far smaller proportion of those who arrive by air are ultimately found to be genuine refugees

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Ex Dame Pansi Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 24168	Re: And STILL they come....more Boat people Reply #545 - Nov 21^st, 2010 at 5:48pm <<the gems these people bring, sheeesh>> ...................................................... They are the gems, diamonds in the rough.
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Reply #546 - Nov 21^st, 2010 at 5:52pm

Dnarever wrote on Nov 21^st, 2010 at 5:46pm:

codswal wrote on Nov 21^st, 2010 at 5:29pm:

Actually absolutly incorrect - many of the refugee claiments arrive by air, about 10 to 1 more than by boat, they are not tourists and they have no intention of going home. Many claim refugee status and are processed the same way as boat arrivals.

xxx

okay dna.. you keep bringing that up so are you saying that Qantas or Singapore Airlines are the people smugglers of the air.. is that what you are telling us???.. figures figures.. we need the figures..6000 by boat so far.. so 10 times that is an awful lot coming through Mascot.... dont you have to have a visa or something to come here I just watch the TV shows.. and immigration seem to pull them in left right and centre...I am not referring to asylum seekers.. just anyone coming here.. they have to have a reason...not just dropping in to see what the welfare system is like..anyone can come dna as long as its legal..

Cods - read the post with this information linked. here another copy.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/nation/refugees-pay-40000-to-come-by-plane/...

ASYLUM-seekers are arriving in Australia by air in numbers that dwarf boat arrivals, after paying people-smugglers up to $US40,000, for a package that includes airfares, false passports and forged Australian visas.
The racket has been revealed by a Sri Lankan refugee who was granted a protection visa after arriving in Australia in April on false travel documents supplied by a professional people-smuggler in Malaysia.

Figures from the Department of Immigration and Citizenship show the number of asylum-seekers who arrive by plane dwarfs the numbers who arrive by boat. A DIAC spokesman said that, in 2008-09, 206 people were granted protection visas after arriving in Australia by boat, while 2172 received protection after arriving by plane.

The total number of plane arrivals who applied for refugee status in that period was 5076. A far smaller proportion of those who arrive by air are ultimately found to be genuine refugees

thanks for that dna.. thats over 12 months old.. so what has happened have they arrested any people smugglers that seem to be able to buy enormous amount of airline tickets.. a bit of a give away I would think...all in different names.. and $40.000 seems a bit of an ask.. they arrive here with nothing yet have more than enough to last them in Sri Lanka..I guess they only have to get one member into the country then he can apply for the rest of them to arrive..ho hum..I still find that hard to believe though.

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Reply #547 - Nov 21^st, 2010 at 6:03pm

'Most of these alleged refugees to places such as Canada, Australia and Europe are hardcore LTTE people.

The Tigers are trying to regroup to keep the movement alive because of the success of our military engagement in Sri Lanka.

If these are so called refugees, where are the women and children?

It is for these reasons we have, as a Government, requested to the host nations that these people are denied entry and sent back to Sri Lanka to face the justice that is demanded by our people.'

Sumith Dassanayake,
Sri Lankan High Commission, Ottawa

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Reply #548 - Nov 21^st, 2010 at 6:06pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Nov 21^st, 2010 at 6:03pm:

'Most of these alleged refugees to places such as Canada, Australia and Europe are hardcore LTTE people.

The Tigers are trying to regroup to keep the movement alive because of the success of our military engagement in Sri Lanka.

If these are so called refugees, where are the women and children?

It is for these reasons we have, as a Government, requested to the host nations that these people are denied entry and sent back to Sri Lanka to face the justice that is demanded by our people.'

Sumith Dassanayake,
Sri Lankan High Commission, Ottawa

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dont tell the mugs that andrei they prefer to believe these are all innocent bystanders , and we owe them!!!!!

I often wonder how much m oney is being sent back to the old country as well.

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Reply #549 - Nov 21^st, 2010 at 6:09pm

In Britain we have a serious Muslim problem, as a result of the madness of a policy stemming back to the 1960s.

Just yesterday the Bristol City v Leicester game I went to - our fans were singing to Leicester fans "You're just a town full of pakis".

Why?
Because in the next two elections time, Leicester is likely to have more coloured Muslim voters than British voters.

Now you look at places like Dandenong which are getting full of the sort of trash and third world losers that we can do without.
Australia is behind the play in comparison to Britain and France, but unless it is careful it too will develop a significant immigrant problem.

It is our actions now, which may create a more safe and sound place for our children and their children.
Otherwise they will find themselves in classrooms full of Mohammeds instead of Johns.

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Reply #550 - Nov 21^st, 2010 at 6:11pm

codswal wrote on Nov 21^st, 2010 at 6:06pm:

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Nov 21^st, 2010 at 6:03pm:

'Most of these alleged refugees to places such as Canada, Australia and Europe are hardcore LTTE people.

The Tigers are trying to regroup to keep the movement alive because of the success of our military engagement in Sri Lanka.

If these are so called refugees, where are the women and children?

It is for these reasons we have, as a Government, requested to the host nations that these people are denied entry and sent back to Sri Lanka to face the justice that is demanded by our people.'

Sumith Dassanayake,
Sri Lankan High Commission, Ottawa

xxxxxx

dont tell the mugs that andrei they prefer to believe these are all innocent bystanders , and we owe them!!!!!

I often wonder how much m oney is being sent back to the old country as well.

why listen to experts and close allies on the subject eh?
Sri Lanka is an ally of Australia in the war on terror.

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Reply #551 - Nov 21^st, 2010 at 6:31pm

codswal wrote on Nov 21^st, 2010 at 5:52pm:

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thanks for that dna.. thats over 12 months old.. so what has happened have they arrested any people smugglers that seem to be able to buy enormous amount of airline tickets.. a bit of a give away I would think...all in different names.

I dont see a give away as you say all in different names with the appropriate credentials - could even be done online. No way to differentiate this ticket from any other valid traveller.

A lot more than 12 months old - it had been going on for years but there were no votes in creating a panic over the threat from the air.

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Reply #553 - Nov 21^st, 2010 at 6:44pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Nov 21^st, 2010 at 6:03pm:

'Most of these alleged refugees to places such as Canada, Australia and Europe are hardcore LTTE people.

The Tigers are trying to regroup to keep the movement alive because of the success of our military engagement in Sri Lanka.

If these are so called refugees, where are the women and children?

It is for these reasons we have, as a Government, requested to the host nations that these people are denied entry and sent back to Sri Lanka to face the justice that is demanded by our people.'

Sumith Dassanayake,
Sri Lankan High Commission, Ottawa

"He said the ship is part of a human smuggling operation linked to the Tamil Tigers.

Last October, a ship carrying 76 Sri Lankan migrants was intercepted in Canadian waters after crossing the Pacific from Sri Lanka. The group on board the Ocean Lady claimed to be fleeing persecution.

All of the men were immediately detained in jails around the Vancouver area, but most were let go within weeks or months, and only one remained in custody on suspicion of being a Tiger. By this past spring, he, too, had been released."

Little substance to the claims.

Canada has a population of about 300,000 Tamils - not all are male.

"Initial images of the vessel show woman and children, some smiling, aboard the dilapidated, tarp-draped vessel. Anandasangaree said the tarps might be used to shield the identities of those on board. He suggested there could be reprisals against family members still in Sri Lanka if those identities are revealed."

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Reply #554 - Nov 21^st, 2010 at 6:51pm

codswal wrote on Nov 21^st, 2010 at 5:52pm:

Dnarever wrote on Nov 21^st, 2010 at 5:46pm:

codswal wrote on Nov 21^st, 2010 at 5:29pm:

Actually absolutly incorrect - many of the refugee claiments arrive by air, about 10 to 1 more than by boat, they are not tourists and they have no intention of going home. Many claim refugee status and are processed the same way as boat arrivals.

xxx

okay dna.. you keep bringing that up so are you saying that Qantas or Singapore Airlines are the people smugglers of the air.. is that what you are telling us???.. figures figures.. we need the figures..6000 by boat so far.. so 10 times that is an awful lot coming through Mascot.... dont you have to have a visa or something to come here I just watch the TV shows.. and immigration seem to pull them in left right and centre...I am not referring to asylum seekers.. just anyone coming here.. they have to have a reason...not just dropping in to see what the welfare system is like..anyone can come dna as long as its legal..

Cods - read the post with this information linked. here another copy.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/nation/refugees-pay-40000-to-come-by-plane/...

ASYLUM-seekers are arriving in Australia by air in numbers that dwarf boat arrivals, after paying people-smugglers up to $US40,000, for a package that includes airfares, false passports and forged Australian visas.
The racket has been revealed by a Sri Lankan refugee who was granted a protection visa after arriving in Australia in April on false travel documents supplied by a professional people-smuggler in Malaysia.

Figures from the Department of Immigration and Citizenship show the number of asylum-seekers who arrive by plane dwarfs the numbers who arrive by boat. A DIAC spokesman said that, in 2008-09, 206 people were granted protection visas after arriving in Australia by boat, while 2172 received protection after arriving by plane.

The total number of plane arrivals who applied for refugee status in that period was 5076. A far smaller proportion of those who arrive by air are ultimately found to be genuine refugees

thanks for that dna.. thats over 12 months old.. so what has happened have they arrested any people smugglers that seem to be able to buy enormous amount of airline tickets.. a bit of a give away I would think...all in different names.. and $40.000 seems a bit of an ask.. they arrive here with nothing yet have more than enough to last them in Sri Lanka..I guess they only have to get one member into the country then he can apply for the rest of them to arrive..ho hum..I still find that hard to believe though.

I think you will find, Cods, that Howard and Costello substantially aided and abetted the plane people traffickers - by facilitating the growth in full fee paying university places and the associated importing of foreign 'students'...

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