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Reply #30 - Nov 17th, 2010 at 6:18am
 
Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Nov 17th, 2010 at 6:03am:
Gillard has done very little to help the asylum seekers. Abbot has done even less, he can't even get his boat phone operational.

It's time to ditch the stale old parties. Bob Brown and the Greens are our only chance for a truly humanitarian Australia.






so you and bobby have opened your homes already have you Pansi... I believe in those with the biggest mouth doing as they preach thats all.

I still see bobby riding in planes and cars.. stuffing up the planet..he really doesnt care all that much you know.words are cheap.
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Reply #31 - Nov 17th, 2010 at 6:35am
 
codswal wrote on Nov 17th, 2010 at 6:18am:
Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Nov 17th, 2010 at 6:03am:
Gillard has done very little to help the asylum seekers. Abbot has done even less, he can't even get his boat phone operational.

It's time to ditch the stale old parties. Bob Brown and the Greens are our only chance for a truly humanitarian Australia.






so you and bobby have opened your homes already have you Pansi... I believe in those with the biggest mouth doing as they preach thats all.

I still see bobby riding in planes and cars.. stuffing up the planet..he really doesnt care all that much you know.words are cheap.



And yet Gillard has bent over backwards to roll out the red carpet for the illegal boat people - tours of gardens, trips to the bowling alley, free education - and paid education for those occassional illegals that actually do get sent back!
Geee if thats the definition of doing very little then if only Gillard would also apply that same 'littleness' to helping our own homeless, unemployed and aborigines!
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Reply #32 - Nov 17th, 2010 at 7:03am
 
WHAT sort of “children” are these really, who this week put seven other boat people in hospital?

Sunday’s all-in brawl between 40 boat people at the Melbourne Immigration Transit Accommodation should finally alert us to what seems yet another immigration rort.

These brawlers are reportedly all “unaccompanied minors” from Afghanistan - that is, they are allegedly aged under 18, and came on boats without their parents.

They are among more than 200 such unaccompanied Afghan “boys” in detention, or about one in six of all Afghans now detained, which seems an astonishingly high proportion.

In all, 645 “unaccompanied minors” have come by boat since the Labor Government softened the rules in 2008.

Fancy so many parents sending children off alone on leaky boats.

But already alarm bells should be ringing - even more so given that teachers working with these “boys” say they actually seem to be young adults.

One, who has asked for anonymity, says of the more than 30 students they’ve seen, only two seemed to be children, and neither was Afghan.

“All the rest look to be anything from their late teens to their mid twenties. All claim to be 15,” the teacher says.

And almost every one is Afghan, or says so, since some Afghan boat people seem to come from Pakistan instead.

Why men would call themselves children is not surprising when you see what privileges come with being deemed to be under 18.

First, as boys they qualify for better accommodation and a fast track out of detention, with the Federal Government committed to a “no children between barbed wire” policy.

For example, nearly 100 of these “boys” were transferred to the Melbourne centre at the weekend from the overcrowded detention centre on Christmas Island.

In Darwin and Brisbane such boys are given not only classes but excursions, and are kept mainly in motels.

But there is a far more pressing reason why it may suit an Afghan man to pretend to be a boy.

It’s this clause in the Immigration Department’s application pack for a Class XA protection visa, explaining that unaccompanied “children” who win refugee status have more right than single men to send for their families to join them: “If you have been separated from members of your immediate family and are successful in your visa application and you are granted a permanent subclass 866 Protection visa, you may be able to propose them for humanitarian entry to Australia ...

“With regard to a Humanitarian entry proposal an immediate family includes your partner, dependent children and your parents (if you are under 18 years of age).” (My emphasis.)

Not only that, well-meaning lawyers will give free help. Here the law firm Minters innocently explains the deal in an email asking for volunteers for the Refugee and Immigration Legal Service ( and note what I’ve highlighted):

“RAILS has a significant case load resulting from the release of large numbers of single men who have been found to be genuine refugees and released from Christmas Island. Many of them are being resettled in Brisbane.

“Among those single men are quite a few unaccompanied minors, (mostly) boys ranging in age from 15 to (almost) 18. RAILS is assisting these children who have been granted protection visas to be reunited with their parents and siblings who remain overseas.

“Completion and lodgement of an application by their parents is crucial because once the boys turn 18 it becomes far more difficult, if not almost impossible, for them to successfully propose their parents for an Australian visa.”

Hello? Haven’t these lawyers smelled a rat? Only one of two conclusions seems possible, and I favour the latter.

The first is that the Government and activist lawyers are luring families into risking their children’s lives by sending them by boat, alone, to Australia.

The alternative is that they - and we - are being played for fools.

http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/column_they_seem_old_for_their_age_or_were_dumb_for_our_own/
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Reply #33 - Nov 17th, 2010 at 7:27am
 
I love the title of this thread

Meeelie must have been a fan of that song from the 70s

The chances of anything coming from Mars is a million to one they said
The chances of anything coming from Mars is a million to one,but still they come.
LOL, what is it you say mel,bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.
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Reply #34 - Nov 17th, 2010 at 8:00am
 
Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Nov 17th, 2010 at 6:03am:
Gillard has done very little to help the asylum seekers. Abbot has done even less, he can't even get his boat phone operational.

It's time to ditch the stale old parties. Bob Brown and the Greens are our only chance for a truly humanitarian Australia.


Mmmmmmmmmmmm.
If Brown and his hippie mates had their way, we would have open borders.
And when Australia becomes a third world country?
Ooooooops.
But it's all too late then.
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Reply #35 - Nov 17th, 2010 at 9:29am
 
codswal wrote on Nov 17th, 2010 at 6:18am:
Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Nov 17th, 2010 at 6:03am:
Gillard has done very little to help the asylum seekers. Abbot has done even less, he can't even get his boat phone operational.

It's time to ditch the stale old parties. Bob Brown and the Greens are our only chance for a truly humanitarian Australia.






so you and bobby have opened your homes already have you Pansi... I believe in those with the biggest mouth doing as they preach thats all.

I still see bobby riding in planes and cars.. stuffing up the planet..he really doesnt care all that much you know.words are cheap.




I don't remember preaching anything about the people of Australia billeting asylum seekers.

Tell me you don't honestly believe that the wise people who believe in environmental sustainability should all be riding around in horse drawn carts.
I don't know how much Bob Brown cares about the planet, but I do know it's a hell of a lot more than the stale old parties, they only care about what they can dig out of it.
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andrei said: Great isn't it? Seeing boatloads of what is nothing more than human garbage turn up.....
 
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Reply #36 - Nov 17th, 2010 at 10:18am
 
Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Nov 17th, 2010 at 9:29am:
codswal wrote on Nov 17th, 2010 at 6:18am:
Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Nov 17th, 2010 at 6:03am:
Gillard has done very little to help the asylum seekers. Abbot has done even less, he can't even get his boat phone operational.

It's time to ditch the stale old parties. Bob Brown and the Greens are our only chance for a truly humanitarian Australia.






so you and bobby have opened your homes already have you Pansi... I believe in those with the biggest mouth doing as they preach thats all.

I still see bobby riding in planes and cars.. stuffing up the planet..he really doesnt care all that much you know.words are cheap.




I don't remember preaching anything about the people of Australia billeting asylum seekers.

Tell me you don't honestly believe that the wise people who believe in environmental sustainability should all be riding around in horse drawn carts.
I don't know how much Bob Brown cares about the planet, but I do know it's a hell of a lot more than the stale old parties, they only care about what they can dig out of it.




oh ands theres me thinking you were/are a greenie who believes in open borders.. let all and sundry come at will... if you preach it live it.. why should those who dont want open borders care for all and sundry.. you say let them in I say let you take care of them..fair enough!!!

you complain about everything and everyway the old parties handle this subject.. so lets see you do something other than complain...

reach into your pockets and into your homes..sim ple it isnt hard to live as one preaches
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Reply #37 - Nov 17th, 2010 at 10:46am
 
<<oh ands theres me thinking you were/are a greenie who believes in open borders.. let all and sundry come at will...>>
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cods, you used to be much more sensible, the company you keep is dragging you down.

If you want to say something about the green's policies, the least you could do is check before you make incorrect statements. Where do the greens say they are in favour of open borders?

I am in favour of treating the asylum seekers in accordance with the United Nations Declaration of Human Rights, and so are the greens.
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andrei said: Great isn't it? Seeing boatloads of what is nothing more than human garbage turn up.....
 
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Reply #38 - Nov 17th, 2010 at 10:48am
 
I am in favor of sending every single last one of them back.

We don't need nor want more crap people from shite countries in our country.
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Reply #39 - Nov 17th, 2010 at 10:54am
 
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Nov 17th, 2010 at 10:48am:
I am in favor of sending every single last one of them back.

We don't need nor want more crap people from shite countries in our country.



Ditto!
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Reply #40 - Nov 17th, 2010 at 11:05am
 
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Nov 17th, 2010 at 10:48am:
I am in favor of sending every single last one of them back.

We don't need nor want more crap people from shite countries in our country.



Walter, what is your country again? America, England, or Canada? They all have more asylum seekers than we do. Or is Australia your country today?
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Reply #41 - Nov 17th, 2010 at 11:10am
 
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Nov 17th, 2010 at 10:48am:
I am in favor of sending every single last one of them back.

We don't need nor want more crap people from shite countries in our country.




In that case a "Do NOt Allow To Enter" stamp on your australian passport would help the situation.
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Reply #42 - Nov 17th, 2010 at 12:00pm
 
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Nov 17th, 2010 at 10:48am:
I am in favor of sending every single last one of them back.

We don't need nor want more crap people from shite countries in our country.




as our great australian tennis champ screamed....come on!!!!!


Cant we get the cultures and problems from other countries into Australia so WE CAN ASSIMILATE to their cultures...just to make them feel at home again!!!!
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Reply #43 - Nov 17th, 2010 at 12:23pm
 
I have never understood why people think it is a good idea to allow these urchins into the country.

They arrive with nothing so we pay for their housing, we pay for their living expenses, they have no skills so we'll never be paid back.

Quite frankly they are other countries' garbage and if they have seen the good sense to see the back of them - why on earth do we want them?

Oh yeah they are 'fleeing war zones' right?

Interesting that 99% of them are male. So these guys have left behind the women and children to this war zone.

What heroes.
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Reply #44 - Nov 17th, 2010 at 12:25pm
 
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Nov 17th, 2010 at 12:23pm:
I have never understood why people think it is a good idea to allow these urchins into the country.

They arrive with nothing so we pay for their housing, we pay for their living expenses, they have no skills so we'll never be paid back.

Quite frankly they are other countries' garbage and if they have seen the good sense to see the back of them - why on earth do we want them?

Oh yeah they are 'fleeing war zones' right?

Interesting that 99% of them are male. So these guys have left behind the women and children to this war zone.

What heroes.



True

Theyre male cause of the horrible sea travel that they willingly endure, but when they get here we allow them to import their wives (yes they probably have a few), children & parents here as well but they come first class!
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