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PeterPan Junior Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 78	Re: And STILL they come....more Boat people Reply #180 - Nov 17^th, 2010 at 7:38pm tickfen wrote on Nov 17^th, 2010 at 5:25pm: seriously...are they? careful what you say. mantra is part indigenous.
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Reply #181 - Nov 17^th, 2010 at 8:40pm

PeterPan wrote on Nov 17^th, 2010 at 7:38pm:

tickfen wrote on Nov 17^th, 2010 at 5:25pm:

seriously...are they?

careful what you say. mantra is part indigenous.

Haha - there's only one character who makes comments like that.

I have no aboriginal blood personally (at least I don't think I do) - but my cousin is married to an aborigine - a lovely man and a professional chef. Their 5 children (including triplets) have gone or are going through uni and the oldest has a doctorate in medicine. The others are teachers or studying. My cousin is an RN who has fostered dozens of abandoned Koori babies and I'm proud of her. She loves her husband's people and helps those who can't help themselves.

Aborigines growing up in the right circumstances with similar advantages to us are no different to anyone else.

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Reply #182 - Nov 17^th, 2010 at 8:48pm

mantra,

The distaste that some Anglo-Aussies feel towards Aboriginals is actually deep down a recognition of what they feel they are becoming. They feel "trapped in the middle", because they barged in on another people here, having absolutely no respect AT ALL for their language, customs, values, traditions and culture, and they brushed them to the side. They now feel the same thing happening to them with all the non-Anglo immigrants who come here (most of whom are highly-educated skilled people), who they see displacing and superseding them so to speak (or so they imagine). So instead of focusing on those people and the benefits they bring to Australia, they point at the tiny little fraction of refugees who come here, and convince themselves the two are one in the same. If they goto a doctor and find him Indian they imagine in their mind he's a boat person who came here a few years ago, who stole a job from an "Aussie".

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mantra Gold Member Offline ozpolitic.com Posts: 10750 Gender:	Re: And STILL they come....more Boat people Reply #183 - Nov 17^th, 2010 at 9:01pm I know Abu. The ignorance of the xenophobes is truly astounding. It has to stem from fear and a lack of education. It does get nauseating though - the same old bigotry over and over again. Small minds obviously.
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Reply #184 - Nov 17^th, 2010 at 9:08pm

abu_rashid wrote on Nov 17^th, 2010 at 8:48pm:

mantra,

The distaste that some Anglo-Aussies feel towards Aboriginals is actually deep down a recognition of what they feel they are becoming. They feel "trapped in the middle", because they barged in on another people here, having absolutely no respect AT ALL for their language, customs, values, traditions and culture, and they brushed them to the side. They now feel the same thing happening to them with all the non-Anglo immigrants who come here (most of whom are highly-educated skilled people), who they see displacing and superseding them so to speak (or so they imagine). So instead of focusing on those people and the benefits they bring to Australia, they point at the tiny little fraction of refugees who come here, and convince themselves the two are one in the same. If they goto a doctor and find him Indian they imagine in their mind he's a boat person who came here a few years ago, who stole a job from an "Aussie".

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what a load of one eyed rubbish for someone to come preaching on this thread when all you have done on another thread is preach how much you hate us..spread hatred and condemn us you have a hide..

a few get fed up with the whingeing of the few.. so thats a terrible thing isnt it?

we are not all brainwashed into springing into life at the stroke of a bell or being led around by the nose saying everyone is evil except us of course.. we have a million excuses..we are peaceful loving people who welcome everyone...yeah right..

thats why you have been preaching from the gospel of hate..you are now try to make out thats what Australiams are like...

its you that hates everyone that isnt a mulim.. remember that

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Reply #185 - Nov 17^th, 2010 at 9:09pm

mantra wrote on Nov 17^th, 2010 at 9:01pm:

I know Abu. The ignorance of the xenophobes is truly astounding. It has to stem from fear and a lack of education.

It does get nauseating though - the same old bigotry over and over again. Small minds obviously.

so you dont mind him saying all the killing they dish out in this day and age, is justified because of something that is supposed to have happened 200 years ago... god do you need some help as well..

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abu_rashid Gold Member Offline Aussie Muslim Posts: 8353	Re: And STILL they come....more Boat people Reply #186 - Nov 17^th, 2010 at 9:14pm codswal, When you correct the multitude of spelling & grammar mistakes in that post, and reform it to resemble something like English then I might consider responding. Until then, I'd suggest you make friends with the boat people and ask them if they'll sneak you into their English classes.
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Reply #187 - Nov 17^th, 2010 at 9:18pm

abu_rashid wrote on Nov 17^th, 2010 at 9:14pm:

codswal,

When you correct the multitude of spelling & grammar mistakes in that post, and reform it to resemble something like English then I might consider responding.

Until then, I'd suggest you make friends with the boat people and ask them if they'll sneak you into their English classes.

Abu - Codswallop has a drinking problem. When it's sober - it's a little more intelligible. In the meantime its' posts are just insulting.

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Reply #188 - Nov 17^th, 2010 at 9:28pm

codswal wrote on Nov 17^th, 2010 at 9:09pm:

mantra wrote on Nov 17^th, 2010 at 9:01pm:

I know Abu. The ignorance of the xenophobes is truly astounding. It has to stem from fear and a lack of education.

It does get nauseating though - the same old bigotry over and over again. Small minds obviously.

so you dont mind him saying all the killing they dish out in this day and age, is justified because of something that is supposed to have happened 200 years ago... god do you need some help as well..

thats true cods, talk about livin in the dark ages, they need to get out from their bark huts and caves and move on....who knows they may make it to the 20th century!!!

bwaaaaaaaahaaaaaaa

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Reply #189 - Nov 18^th, 2010 at 2:11am

darkhall67 wrote on Nov 17^th, 2010 at 4:57pm:

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As I've already said - let's have a referendum on this issue and see exactly what the majority of Australians think.

A referendum would only be of use if the voters were adequately informed about the issue.

This report would be a good start:

http://www.aph.gov.au/library/pubs/BN/sp/Asylumfacts.htm

Let's see...

1. Illegals are flooding into Australia by the thousands. Brought here by criminal people smugglers (who said crime doesn't pay?), aided and abetted by a weak, pathetic Australian government and all the do gooders (many of whom I'm sure have a vested, i.e. financial interest in keeping these illegals coming - lawyers, social workers, etc.).

2. Said illegals are living a life of luxury in 'detention centres' (or motels) with all the essentials - a warm bed, TV, phone, Internet access, etc. while they wait for their claims to be processed. All courtesy of the Australian taxpayer. Meanwhile, thousands of Australians who can no longer afford to buy a home or pay private rent are living rough out on the streets and in cars, etc. while they wait years for public housing.

3. When said illegals are granted residency here, they continue to be a drain on the taxpayers of Australia because most of them never get a job. And, despite do gooder claims to the contrary, they MUST be getting priority for public housing (ahead of the abovementioned Australians living rough). Because, I've never seen or heard of a boat person living on the streets.

I think that would be sufficient to adequately inform the voters. For now, at least.

(Sorry about taking so long to get back to this, I've been at work)

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Reply #190 - Nov 18^th, 2010 at 3:46am

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1. Illegals are flooding into Australia by the thousands.

How many is implied by 'the thousands'? That could mean two thousand. That is hardly an inundation.

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many of whom I'm sure have a vested, i.e. financial interest in keeping these illegals coming - lawyers, social workers, etc.).

Agreed. But you could say this about all immigration, not just the boat people.

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Meanwhile, thousands of Australians who can no longer afford to buy a home or pay private rent are living rough out on the streets and in cars, etc. while they wait years for public housing.

Any stats?

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Reply #191 - Nov 18^th, 2010 at 3:46am

mantra wrote on Nov 17^th, 2010 at 9:18pm:

abu_rashid wrote on Nov 17^th, 2010 at 9:14pm:

codswal,

When you correct the multitude of spelling & grammar mistakes in that post, and reform it to resemble something like English then I might consider responding.

Until then, I'd suggest you make friends with the boat people and ask them if they'll sneak you into their English classes.

Abu - Codswallop has a drinking problem. When it's sober - it's a little more intelligible. In the meantime its' posts are just insulting.

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I find it very insulting that you insinuate that I drink..you are a very rude person I am aware of that, but this is more than rude I find it slanderous, even on a place like this it can still see you in trouble.

you dont mind being called a murderer or your ancestors being called murderers.. thats for you to worry about..

but when someone does object doesnt give you the right to assassinate their character because you happen to hide behind a silly name.

we are all well aware on these boards that the only thing you are capeable of,is nasty personal attacks.... hit and run style.

hardly debateing in my book.

just for the record do not repeat your lies again.. I find them very offensive. thankyou..

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Reply #192 - Nov 18^th, 2010 at 6:10am

JC Denton wrote on Nov 18^th, 2010 at 3:46am:

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1. Illegals are flooding into Australia by the thousands.

How many is implied by 'the thousands'? That could mean two thousand. That is hardly an inundation.

Around 6,000 per year since Rudd opened the doors.
And most stay, around 95%.
And then these 5,700 bring in their family members (parents, children, siblings).

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Reply #193 - Nov 18^th, 2010 at 6:13am

JC Denton wrote on Nov 18^th, 2010 at 3:46am:

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many of whom I'm sure have a vested, i.e. financial interest in keeping these illegals coming - lawyers, social workers, etc.).

Agreed. But you could say this about all immigration, not just the boat people.

Can you explain why people who come to Australia legally would then need to spend money on lawyers, social workers etc?

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Reply #194 - Nov 18^th, 2010 at 6:16am

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we are all well aware on these boards that the only thing you are capeable of,is nasty personal attacks.... hit and run style.

hardly debateing in my book.

just for the record do not repeat your lies again.. I find them very offensive. thankyou..

What concern is it of yours when I post on this board? Why would you even notice?

You are the one who is incredibly rude and if you get a little bit back sometimes - too bad.

As far as being slanderous - the outrageous references you've made about me and others have been noted and kept. When you throw mud - expect some to be thrown back.

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