FD wrote on Nov 17
th, 2010 at 5:05pm:
JC Denton wrote on Nov 17
th, 2010 at 4:53pm:
Quote:I'll be looking after my own family, thank you very much.
Sounds like you're a wicked family supremacist to me. Besides the fact that you're genetically related to them, why do they matter to you? You don't choose who your mother, father and uncle are. Being proud of them or wanting to support them or see the best for them is antiquated and offensive.
Exactly. But I'll be serious with you for a sec, Imperium: I've never understood this bizarre idea of being loyal to your own race. I've never understood why I should get on better with whites, for example, than anyone else. It seems important to you and WP, but I just don't get it.
Culture, sure, but I grew up with Australian-cultured kids from a range of different racial backgrounds. It didn't mean jack-sh!t to us. I'll tell you one thing: I've got a lot more in common with n!ggers and gooks than I have with pig-ignorant, Nazi rednecks.
Which is why I can't understand your viewpoint - you're not pig-ignorant, you're a reasonably nice guy. I'm guessing that you haven't travelled much or met many people from other backgrounds. I mean, why would you care what race people are? Why would you care what hair or skin colour someone has?
Why would it be an issue at all?
It matters for the same reason that family matters. A race is just a big extended family and many people have an implicit or explicit preference for their own race. The ethnic phenomeon is very difficult to understand if you just think of it in terms of just one, single loyality. It doesn't work that way at all in reality and people have various loyalities and ingroup and outgroup senses. People organize themselves into various groups and race appears to be indisputably a major aspect of that. Wesley put it that people just prefer people who are like themselves, and because race is a major part of who we are ourselves (in terms of how we look and act) an incontrovertible ethnic phenomeon emerges. This is true all over the world.
http://www.amazon.com/Conflicts-Explained-Nepotism-Research-Biopolitics/dp/0762305835
It doesn't matter that much to me personally, though I will admit I do feel far more comfortable around people who are white and am almost entirely only attracted to white (though I acknowledge the high average level of beauty of Oriental women) women. Even if you don't believe that what I say about HBD (that say, a psychometric intelligence etc. is important and contributes significantly to the variance in life outcomes) is true, if it is true it in itself is not sufficient to create some kind of exclusive immigration policy or even an immigration policy that takes race into account because there is too much overlap between the races in these traits (and that obviously, whites take a second place to Oriental East-Asians) It is the potential consequences of the multiethnic phenomeon, and admittedly some subjective factors, that drives my desire to retain a relatively homogenous society, though this doesn't mean I think "only white people should be allowed to come here".
And no, I don't think the things I am describing are social constructions.
I don't think it's an unreasonable opinion to take. I'm not the one advocating lebenstraum, mistreatment of foreign peoples, invading Muslim countries, etc. Ideally I like to think of myself as a pan-nationalist who advocates self-determination for all peoples and nations. Though this would probably be naive given the actual reality of geopolitics, which you seem to "get".
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