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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 49846 At my desk.	Re: What is the.. .meaning of life???? Reply #15 - Nov 26^th, 2010 at 10:28pm Quote: Wasn't that the question? No.
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Reply #16 - Nov 27^th, 2010 at 8:53am

freediver wrote on Nov 26^th, 2010 at 10:28pm:

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Wasn't that the question?

No.

Well I should ask Gloria Glorious that question. What did you mean by the question? It's an old Monty Python cliché of course, but what did you really mean? - The significance of life, the definition of life (which is difficult enough), or the purpose of life ?

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William Talbot New Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 5	Re: What is the.. .meaning of life???? Reply #17 - Dec 16^th, 2010 at 6:50pm very intellectual question?
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Reply #18 - Jan 7^th, 2011 at 6:31pm

[quote author=EmpNap link=1289809627/0#0 date=1289809627] :o :o :o :o[/quote]

What is just now the final product of life?

[color=#0000ff]Conciousness![/color]

I think that the meaning of life must be its final result. And the top of life's evolution just now is conciousness. So, life exists as a tool for arriving to conciousness.

But, conciousness arose here in the last moments of astronomic time and is fragmented in 6,5 billion bits inside human's heads and probable in trillions bits else in other extraterrestrial living beings. It is like the state of the genes soon after the fecundation.

From the above, my opinion is that the meaning of our life, as human beings ( and the other trillions in the space), is to be like genes building a new specie, a new natural system. The fact that all genes from our parents lifted up to the brain and are alive during our existence, suggests that we will be alive in the final baby that we are building.

From the Big Bang to the Big Birth:

It means that the Universe began with a Big Bang (the astronomic counterpart of the big bang that initiated our own body when the involucre of a spermatozoon exploded inside an ovule) and are going to a final as the Big Birth, when all matter will be discarded like is the :)placenta and will born a baby made of conciousness ... when all of us will be one.

It is what suggests the real facts and processes I can see here.

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Reply #19 - Jan 7^th, 2011 at 6:57pm

[quote author=LouisMorelli link=1289809627/15#18 date=1294389117][quote author=EmpNap link=1289809627/0#0 date=1289809627] :o :o :o :o[/quote]

What is just now the final product of life?

[color=#0000ff]Conciousness![/color]

But... if are there a purpose for life (production of conciousness) why we are under events by chance, exposed to predators, threated to be extinguished under tragedies, etc.?

There is a plausible explanation in the anatomy of LUCA ( the Last Universal Common Ancestor), which is the most perfect closed system, and wich will be the anatomy of conciousness. The anatomy of LUCA is suggested by Matrix/DNA Theory.

The explanations is:

Every new shape of natural system has two phases: first they are like eggs layed out and abandoned to tragedies, predators, etc. But, since that the new system never left the superior system which is the environment, in fact the egg was not layed out; in a second phase the egg is kept in the womb and nurtured till its birth. In LUCA the two phases were happen at the same time.

Since that conciousness is a new system that is still inside eggs (human heads) and appeared in the last minutes of cosmological time, it means that we are at the phase of eggs laid out. It is the cause we are under tragedies, predators and events by chance. But it means that we, as universal genes, are being kept in the universal womb and being nurtured safely.

If you see the LUCA's picture at "The Universal matrix of Natural Systems and Life's Cycle" website, the first phase of eggs laid out is Function 2 when leaving the Function 1, and the second phase of the same eggs being kept in the system is Function 3 and 4 orbiting Function 6.

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Reply #20 - Jan 11^th, 2011 at 9:55am

Why the obsession with an individual meaning to life. Life just is, no deep and incredible job to do just humanity as a species doing what it does.
Life is the sum of the experiences you have.
Life and death are just things that you do when your born.
There are a thousand of these but the base line for me is i don't care anymore. I spent years pursuing the meaning, traveled to all sorts of sacred places, meditated with enlightened masters and it all means nothing. There was no answer just as there is no answer to the creation of the universe. Everyone meets the same question "where did it come from?".
To myself the meaning is simple, live to the fullest, experience everything i can and give my family the opportunity to experience what they like. There is no right and wrong only the conscience that tell's you where to draw the line. Celebrate the time you have lived and the fortunate era that you live in. We have healthcare, industry, immunology and science, a standard of living that has never been known and the ability to help those who don't. See the good and don't linger on the bad as life is too short to dwell on the unknowable. Be satisfied with having life it a is a gift that you have.

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Reply #21 - Jan 12^th, 2011 at 11:35am

nairbe wrote on Jan 11^th, 2011 at 9:55am:

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I spent years pursuing the meaning, traveled to all sorts of sacred places, meditated with enlightened masters and it all means nothing.

LOL

In pursuing the meaning of your life, did you ever, look within?
Or was that just 'too far' to go ??? Roll Eyes

e.g.
You will never find a 'right' partner, by searching for, seeking to 'find' the 'right' person, according to your own desire.
To find your one-ness, with another, you, must be the right person.

Abandon desire.

Find TRUTH.

Suffering arises from desire/attachment.
Buddhism - 2nd of The Four Noble Truths

1. TO LIVE, IS TO SUFFER
2. Suffering arises from attachment to desire

I do not follow 'The Four Noble Truths'.

But i am happy to take what i need, from them.

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There is no right and wrong only the conscience that tell's you where to draw the line.

IMO, within a person who holds such a world view, our conscience can no longer guide us.

It no longer speaks to us.

Because it [the conscience] is already, 'the departed'.

And i have no desire to live 'your' the world nairbe.

This world.

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1 Corinthians 3:16
Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?

Psalms 51:11
Cast me not away from thy presence; and take not thy holy spirit from me.

Romans 8:5
For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.

Isaiah 57:15
For thus saith the high and lofty One that inhabiteth eternity, whose name is Holy; I dwell in the high and holy place, with him also that is of a contrite and humble spirit, to revive the spirit of the humble, and to revive the heart of the contrite ones.

Acts 17:27
That they should seek the Lord, if haply they might feel after him, and find him, though he be not far from every one of us:
28 For in him we live, and move, and have our being; as certain also of your own poets have said, For we are also his offspring.

You will find nothing of worth, within this world.

Look within.

"This life, is a search for meaning."

Who said that? Wink

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Amadd Gold Member Offline Mo Posts: 6217	Re: What is the.. .meaning of life???? Reply #22 - Jan 15^th, 2011 at 1:40am Yeah grand teachings from those who forever sit on a hill by themselves
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Reply #23 - Jan 16^th, 2011 at 9:05pm

Amadd wrote on Jan 15^th, 2011 at 1:40am:

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Yeah grand teachings from those who forever sit on a hill by themselves Grin

The Fool On The Hill
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"i must honestly say that i believe that the song fool on the hill is merely a metaphor for humanity in general...we are close minded and we have ears for no one...only a few people (the fools) are true to themselves and others... and other people mock them, insult them, misunderstand... they all misunderstand....... i am a fool"
- peter, west granby , CT

http://www.songfacts.com/detail.php?id=134

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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joseph pratt New Member Offline Posts: 1 Washington Gender:	Re: What is the.. .meaning of life???? Reply #24 - Aug 11^th, 2011 at 8:47pm We just cannot define life in words or sentences but LIFE is a beautiful gift to us given by GOD!! As it is gift we must live it in positive way and learn good things as much as we can!!
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muso Gold Member Offline Posts: 13151 Gladstone, Queensland Gender:	Re: What is the.. .meaning of life???? Reply #25 - Aug 12^th, 2011 at 11:10am joseph pratt wrote on Aug 11^th, 2011 at 8:47pm: We just cannot define life in words or sentences but LIFE is a beautiful gift to us given by GOD!! As it is gift we must live it in positive way and learn good things as much as we can!! You mean like a birthday present?
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Reply #26 - Aug 12^th, 2011 at 11:52am

joseph pratt wrote on Aug 11^th, 2011 at 8:47pm:

We just cannot define life in words or sentences but LIFE is a beautiful gift to us given by GOD!!

As it is gift we must live it in positive way and learn good things as much as we can!!

I see my own life, as an opportunity [a gift?] from God, to make mistakes within [this life, being] a 'controlled environment'.

I see God giving me an opportunity [a gift?], to learn, that there will always consequences for the [moral] choices i make.

And giving me an opportunity, to recognise my mistakes [if i eventually do!], so as to learn from my mistakes, by my own experience.

Romans 3:23
For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

muso wrote on Aug 12^th, 2011 at 11:10am:

You mean like a birthday present?

Yes muso, exactly so. Grin

i.e.
Wasn't our natal day, a 'birthday present', from God ? Wink

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Reply #27 - Aug 12^th, 2011 at 12:06pm

Yadda wrote on Aug 12^th, 2011 at 11:52am:

I see God giving me an opportunity [a gift?], to learn, that there will always consequences for the [moral] choices i make.

And giving me an opportunity, to recognise my mistakes [if i eventually do!], so as to learn from my mistakes, by my own experience.

Romans 3:23
For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

I don't believe that God has any expectation that we, individually, will be perfect and without fault.

But i do believe that God wants us to acknowledge our error [our mistakes], and i believe that he wants us to want to be perfect.

i.e.
To 'have a care', and to not be 'careless', in our conduct here.

Genesis 17:1
And when Abram was ninety years old and nine, the LORD appeared to Abram, and said unto him, I am the Almighty God; walk before me, and be thou perfect.

Jeremiah 17:14
Heal me, O LORD, and I shall be healed; save me, and I shall be saved: for thou art my praise.

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 40816 Gender:	Re: What is the.. .meaning of life???? Reply #28 - Aug 12^th, 2011 at 12:15pm To create
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Equitist Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 9632 NSW	Re: What is the.. .meaning of life???? Reply #29 - Aug 12^th, 2011 at 12:19pm LOL...I hope you got a receipt for that imaginary 'gift' - cos you may have a right (if not the common sense) to demand a full cash refund!
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