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Re:  No room for girlfriends at Ivanhoe Girls' dance
Reply #75 - Nov 12th, 2010 at 10:45am
 
... wrote on Nov 12th, 2010 at 10:43am:
gizmo_2655 wrote on Nov 12th, 2010 at 10:37am:
Bobby. wrote on Nov 12th, 2010 at 10:21am:
gizmo_2655 wrote on Nov 12th, 2010 at 8:34am:
Bobby. wrote on Nov 12th, 2010 at 7:40am:
gizmo_2655 wrote on Nov 12th, 2010 at 6:38am:
Bobby. wrote on Nov 11th, 2010 at 11:07pm:
I feel sorry for the girls but on the other hand -

why couldn't they arrange  male dance partners just for the night?

Perhaps they would have learnt something & it would have been
a rewarding experience for them?


Why should they have had to bobby??

How would you feel if you were told you HAD to take a male partner to a dinner/dance, instead of your wife/girlfriend????



Why? - I just said why - a rewarding & learning experience.
You are supposed to learn something a school.

I wouldn't accept having to go to a dance with a guy because I am a guy.
Guys don't dance together - what a stupid question.
Only poofs dance together.


That's my point bobby, you would be angry if you were told to take a man, because YOU prefer girls....
The same thing applies to this girl, she prefers girls, so why should she be forced to go to the dance with someone other than her preference???


Because it is good for her development.
It's part of the process of learning.
She will have interact with males at some stage & this will prepare her.


The girl's 16 or something isn't she?? How likely is it that a 16 yr old hasn't interacted with boys for most of her life??

She's only been going out with her girlfriend for 8 months ,so possibly the girl herself had only realised her sexuality in the last couple of years.....

12 or 14 years of 'interacting' with males should be all the practice she needs....



LOL...yes, because 16 year old boys or girls are sooo worldly, wise and mature aren't they?


Funny Wesley, but most children work out the basics of human  interaction by the time they start high school, the rest is just fine-tuning....
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Re:  No room for girlfriends at Ivanhoe Girls' dance
Reply #76 - Nov 12th, 2010 at 10:54am
 
gizmo_2655 wrote on Nov 12th, 2010 at 10:45am:
... wrote on Nov 12th, 2010 at 10:43am:
gizmo_2655 wrote on Nov 12th, 2010 at 10:37am:
Bobby. wrote on Nov 12th, 2010 at 10:21am:
gizmo_2655 wrote on Nov 12th, 2010 at 8:34am:
Bobby. wrote on Nov 12th, 2010 at 7:40am:
gizmo_2655 wrote on Nov 12th, 2010 at 6:38am:
Bobby. wrote on Nov 11th, 2010 at 11:07pm:
I feel sorry for the girls but on the other hand -

why couldn't they arrange  male dance partners just for the night?

Perhaps they would have learnt something & it would have been
a rewarding experience for them?


Why should they have had to bobby??

How would you feel if you were told you HAD to take a male partner to a dinner/dance, instead of your wife/girlfriend????



Why? - I just said why - a rewarding & learning experience.
You are supposed to learn something a school.

I wouldn't accept having to go to a dance with a guy because I am a guy.
Guys don't dance together - what a stupid question.
Only poofs dance together.


That's my point bobby, you would be angry if you were told to take a man, because YOU prefer girls....
The same thing applies to this girl, she prefers girls, so why should she be forced to go to the dance with someone other than her preference???


Because it is good for her development.
It's part of the process of learning.
She will have interact with males at some stage & this will prepare her.


The girl's 16 or something isn't she?? How likely is it that a 16 yr old hasn't interacted with boys for most of her life??

She's only been going out with her girlfriend for 8 months ,so possibly the girl herself had only realised her sexuality in the last couple of years.....

12 or 14 years of 'interacting' with males should be all the practice she needs....



LOL...yes, because 16 year old boys or girls are sooo worldly, wise and mature aren't they?


Funny Wesley, but most children work out the basics of human  interaction by the time they start high school, the rest is just fine-tuning....



Yes, but similarly, most 6 year olds have learnt the basics of football, but they need *just a bit* of practise before you could say they are competent at it.
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Reply #77 - Nov 12th, 2010 at 11:46am
 
These useless brats will howl at every obsticle that presents itself in their lives.  FFS, a middle aged male meets more discrimination than this trivia every day.  Time  for them to grow up a bit.
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Reply #78 - Nov 12th, 2010 at 11:50am
 
aussiefree2ride wrote on Nov 12th, 2010 at 11:46am:
These useless brats will howl at every obsticle that presents itself in their lives.  FFS, a middle aged male meets more discrimination than this trivia every day.  Time  for them to grow up a bit.



Fat chance with her nutless daddy pandering to her every whim.  I foresee a promising future in frivolous lawsuits a'la kristy fraser-kirk, for this girl, aided and abetted by a limp, emasculated 'man' too afraid to tell his daughter to stop being so precious and get on with it.
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Reply #79 - Nov 12th, 2010 at 12:14pm
 
This whole thrtead is getting rather silly.

The girls need practice in dealing with males.
They will have plenty of time for their carpet munching activities
for the rest of their lives.

They should have gone to the function & picked a male partner.
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Reply #80 - Nov 12th, 2010 at 12:24pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Nov 12th, 2010 at 12:14pm:
This whole thrtead is getting rather silly.

The girls need practice in dealing with males.
They will have plenty of time for their carpet munching activities
for the rest of their lives.

They should have gone to the function & picked a male partner.




Who says they dont have practice in dealing with males?


Just because they are lesbians doesnt mean they have never met a male , talked to a male or even had male friends.

You seem to be suggesting that if only they would associate with males (by going to a dance with them) their lesbianism would be "cured".
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Reply #81 - Nov 12th, 2010 at 12:31pm
 
darkhall67 wrote on Nov 12th, 2010 at 12:24pm:
Bobby. wrote on Nov 12th, 2010 at 12:14pm:
This whole thrtead is getting rather silly.

The girls need practice in dealing with males.
They will have plenty of time for their carpet munching activities
for the rest of their lives.

They should have gone to the function & picked a male partner.




Who says they dont have practice in dealing with males?


Just because they are lesbians doesnt mean they have never met a male , talked to a male or even had male friends.

You seem to be suggesting that if only they would associate with males (by going to a dance with them) their lesbianism would be "cured".



In many cases, it does.  Not all, but many.
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Re:  No room for girlfriends at Ivanhoe Girls' dance
Reply #82 - Nov 12th, 2010 at 12:40pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Nov 12th, 2010 at 12:14pm:
This whole thrtead is getting rather silly.

The girls need practice in dealing with males.
They will have plenty of time for their carpet munching activities
for the rest of their lives.

They should have gone to the function & picked a male partner.


Ok so what do you  think the girl would have 'learned' by going to the dance with a male???
That she's not attracted to males??? I think she already knows that....
Or could it be she'd learn that other people have the right to dictate her lifestyle choices???

This ban was simply based on the fact that her partner was another girl....it wasn't about 'Year 10 students can't attend', because a Year 10 boy did attend, and from the way the article was written, Hannah was the only one who wanted to bring a girlfriend, so that's unlikely to 'destroy' the balance of boy-vs-girl at the dance....
It was the bias of the Headmistress and, possibly, the school that caused all this ruckus....
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Reply #83 - Nov 12th, 2010 at 12:58pm
 
gizmo_2655 wrote on Nov 12th, 2010 at 12:40pm:
Bobby. wrote on Nov 12th, 2010 at 12:14pm:
This whole thrtead is getting rather silly.

The girls need practice in dealing with males.
They will have plenty of time for their carpet munching activities
for the rest of their lives.

They should have gone to the function & picked a male partner.


Ok so what do you  think the girl would have 'learned' by going to the dance with a male???
That she's not attracted to males??? I think she already knows that....
Or could it be she'd learn that other people have the right to dictate her lifestyle choices???

This ban was simply based on the fact that her partner was another girl....it wasn't about 'Year 10 students can't attend', because a Year 10 boy did attend, and from the way the article was written, Hannah was the only one who wanted to bring a girlfriend, so that's unlikely to 'destroy' the balance of boy-vs-girl at the dance....
It was the bias of the Headmistress and, possibly, the school that caused all this ruckus....



No, it was the sensationalistic media that caused all this ruckus.  Gotta give the army of clapping seals something to get all outraged about - and what fits the bill better than a good spot of christian bashing eh?
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Re:  No room for girlfriends at Ivanhoe Girls' dance
Reply #84 - Nov 12th, 2010 at 12:59pm
 
... wrote on Nov 12th, 2010 at 11:50am:
aussiefree2ride wrote on Nov 12th, 2010 at 11:46am:
These useless brats will howl at every obsticle that presents itself in their lives.  FFS, a middle aged male meets more discrimination than this trivia every day.  Time  for them to grow up a bit.



Fat chance with her nutless daddy pandering to her every whim.  I foresee a promising future in frivolous lawsuits a'la kristy fraser-kirk, for this girl, aided and abetted by a limp, emasculated 'man' too afraid to tell his daughter to stop being so precious and get on with it.



Wes, my boy was involved in a horror car accident, broken back, lost one foot, all ribs on left side broken & more. He was in IC for over five days, many months recuperating, isn`t a paraplegic but had to learn to walk again etc.  He and his family lost their family home, due to his loss of income and expenses.  Apart from going after the idiot who hit his landcruiser on the left hand side at very high speed, the only comment he`s ever made on the event is to say how lucky his wife wasn`t in the car as she would have been but not for freak circumstances.   I`m proud of him, I can`t help but compare these whining rsoles.
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Re:  No room for girlfriends at Ivanhoe Girls' dance
Reply #85 - Nov 12th, 2010 at 1:01pm
 
... wrote on Nov 12th, 2010 at 12:58pm:
gizmo_2655 wrote on Nov 12th, 2010 at 12:40pm:
Bobby. wrote on Nov 12th, 2010 at 12:14pm:
This whole thrtead is getting rather silly.

The girls need practice in dealing with males.
They will have plenty of time for their carpet munching activities
for the rest of their lives.

They should have gone to the function & picked a male partner.


Ok so what do you  think the girl would have 'learned' by going to the dance with a male???
That she's not attracted to males??? I think she already knows that....
Or could it be she'd learn that other people have the right to dictate her lifestyle choices???

This ban was simply based on the fact that her partner was another girl....it wasn't about 'Year 10 students can't attend', because a Year 10 boy did attend, and from the way the article was written, Hannah was the only one who wanted to bring a girlfriend, so that's unlikely to 'destroy' the balance of boy-vs-girl at the dance....
It was the bias of the Headmistress and, possibly, the school that caused all this ruckus....



No, it was the sensationalistic media that caused all this ruckus.  Gotta give the army of clapping seals something to get all outraged about - and what fits the bill better than a good spot of christian bashing eh?



Well  it got us writing posts  Grin
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Reply #86 - Nov 12th, 2010 at 1:12pm
 
... wrote on Nov 12th, 2010 at 12:58pm:
gizmo_2655 wrote on Nov 12th, 2010 at 12:40pm:
Bobby. wrote on Nov 12th, 2010 at 12:14pm:
This whole thrtead is getting rather silly.

The girls need practice in dealing with males.
They will have plenty of time for their carpet munching activities
for the rest of their lives.

They should have gone to the function & picked a male partner.


Ok so what do you  think the girl would have 'learned' by going to the dance with a male???
That she's not attracted to males??? I think she already knows that....
Or could it be she'd learn that other people have the right to dictate her lifestyle choices???

This ban was simply based on the fact that her partner was another girl....it wasn't about 'Year 10 students can't attend', because a Year 10 boy did attend, and from the way the article was written, Hannah was the only one who wanted to bring a girlfriend, so that's unlikely to 'destroy' the balance of boy-vs-girl at the dance....
It was the bias of the Headmistress and, possibly, the school that caused all this ruckus....



No, it was the sensationalistic media that caused all this ruckus.  Gotta give the army of clapping seals something to get all outraged about - and what fits the bill better than a good spot of christian bashing eh?


And aren't christian schools and churches bound by the same rules as the rest of Australia????
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Reply #87 - Nov 12th, 2010 at 1:17pm
 
gizmo_2655 wrote on Nov 12th, 2010 at 1:12pm:
... wrote on Nov 12th, 2010 at 12:58pm:
gizmo_2655 wrote on Nov 12th, 2010 at 12:40pm:
Bobby. wrote on Nov 12th, 2010 at 12:14pm:
This whole thrtead is getting rather silly.

The girls need practice in dealing with males.
They will have plenty of time for their carpet munching activities
for the rest of their lives.

They should have gone to the function & picked a male partner.


Ok so what do you  think the girl would have 'learned' by going to the dance with a male???
That she's not attracted to males??? I think she already knows that....
Or could it be she'd learn that other people have the right to dictate her lifestyle choices???

This ban was simply based on the fact that her partner was another girl....it wasn't about 'Year 10 students can't attend', because a Year 10 boy did attend, and from the way the article was written, Hannah was the only one who wanted to bring a girlfriend, so that's unlikely to 'destroy' the balance of boy-vs-girl at the dance....
It was the bias of the Headmistress and, possibly, the school that caused all this ruckus....



No, it was the sensationalistic media that caused all this ruckus.  Gotta give the army of clapping seals something to get all outraged about - and what fits the bill better than a good spot of christian bashing eh?


And aren't christian schools and churches bound by the same rules as the rest of Australia????



Nope.

Quote:
ANTI-DISCRIMINATION ACT 1977 - SECT 49ZO
Education
49ZO Education

(1) It is unlawful for an educational authority to discriminate against a person on the ground of homosexuality:
(a) by refusing or failing to accept the person’s application for admission as a student, or
(b) in the terms on which it is prepared to admit the person as a student.

(2) It is unlawful for an educational authority to discriminate against a student on the ground of homosexuality:
(a) by denying the student access, or limiting the student’s access, to any benefit provided by the educational authority, or
(b) by expelling the student or subjecting the student to any other detriment.

(3) Nothing in this section applies to or in respect of a private educational authority.



And why should they be?  They are entitled to their beliefs. 
What the shrill, screaming lefties need to understand is that forcing everybody to compromise whatever beliefs they may have, so as not to offend some whining jokers, is discrimination too.
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Reply #88 - Nov 12th, 2010 at 1:23pm
 
... wrote on Nov 12th, 2010 at 1:17pm:
gizmo_2655 wrote on Nov 12th, 2010 at 1:12pm:
... wrote on Nov 12th, 2010 at 12:58pm:
gizmo_2655 wrote on Nov 12th, 2010 at 12:40pm:
Bobby. wrote on Nov 12th, 2010 at 12:14pm:
This whole thrtead is getting rather silly.

The girls need practice in dealing with males.
They will have plenty of time for their carpet munching activities
for the rest of their lives.

They should have gone to the function & picked a male partner.


Ok so what do you  think the girl would have 'learned' by going to the dance with a male???
That she's not attracted to males??? I think she already knows that....
Or could it be she'd learn that other people have the right to dictate her lifestyle choices???

This ban was simply based on the fact that her partner was another girl....it wasn't about 'Year 10 students can't attend', because a Year 10 boy did attend, and from the way the article was written, Hannah was the only one who wanted to bring a girlfriend, so that's unlikely to 'destroy' the balance of boy-vs-girl at the dance....
It was the bias of the Headmistress and, possibly, the school that caused all this ruckus....



No, it was the sensationalistic media that caused all this ruckus.  Gotta give the army of clapping seals something to get all outraged about - and what fits the bill better than a good spot of christian bashing eh?


And aren't christian schools and churches bound by the same rules as the rest of Australia????



Nope.

Quote:
ANTI-DISCRIMINATION ACT 1977 - SECT 49ZO
Education
49ZO Education

(1) It is unlawful for an educational authority to discriminate against a person on the ground of homosexuality:
(a) by refusing or failing to accept the person’s application for admission as a student, or
(b) in the terms on which it is prepared to admit the person as a student.

(2) It is unlawful for an educational authority to discriminate against a student on the ground of homosexuality:
(a) by denying the student access, or limiting the student’s access, to any benefit provided by the educational authority, or
(b) by expelling the student or subjecting the student to any other detriment.

(3) Nothing in this section applies to or in respect of a private educational authority.



And why should they be?  They are entitled to their beliefs.  
What the shrill, screaming lefties need to understand is that forcing everybody to compromise whatever beliefs they may have, so as not to offend some whining jokers, is discrimination too.


Ok so if the school objected to her lifestyle choice, why didn't they a) expell her, or b) admit that the reason she couldn't bring her girlfriend was, well, because she WAS a girl???

Why go through the song and dance about 'no Year 10 students' and then allow a male Yr 10 student to attend???
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Reply #89 - Nov 12th, 2010 at 1:28pm
 
gizmo_2655 wrote on Nov 12th, 2010 at 1:23pm:
... wrote on Nov 12th, 2010 at 1:17pm:
gizmo_2655 wrote on Nov 12th, 2010 at 1:12pm:
... wrote on Nov 12th, 2010 at 12:58pm:
gizmo_2655 wrote on Nov 12th, 2010 at 12:40pm:
Bobby. wrote on Nov 12th, 2010 at 12:14pm:
This whole thrtead is getting rather silly.

The girls need practice in dealing with males.
They will have plenty of time for their carpet munching activities
for the rest of their lives.

They should have gone to the function & picked a male partner.


Ok so what do you  think the girl would have 'learned' by going to the dance with a male???
That she's not attracted to males??? I think she already knows that....
Or could it be she'd learn that other people have the right to dictate her lifestyle choices???

This ban was simply based on the fact that her partner was another girl....it wasn't about 'Year 10 students can't attend', because a Year 10 boy did attend, and from the way the article was written, Hannah was the only one who wanted to bring a girlfriend, so that's unlikely to 'destroy' the balance of boy-vs-girl at the dance....
It was the bias of the Headmistress and, possibly, the school that caused all this ruckus....



No, it was the sensationalistic media that caused all this ruckus.  Gotta give the army of clapping seals something to get all outraged about - and what fits the bill better than a good spot of christian bashing eh?


And aren't christian schools and churches bound by the same rules as the rest of Australia????



Nope.

Quote:
ANTI-DISCRIMINATION ACT 1977 - SECT 49ZO
Education
49ZO Education

(1) It is unlawful for an educational authority to discriminate against a person on the ground of homosexuality:
(a) by refusing or failing to accept the person’s application for admission as a student, or
(b) in the terms on which it is prepared to admit the person as a student.

(2) It is unlawful for an educational authority to discriminate against a student on the ground of homosexuality:
(a) by denying the student access, or limiting the student’s access, to any benefit provided by the educational authority, or
(b) by expelling the student or subjecting the student to any other detriment.

(3) Nothing in this section applies to or in respect of a private educational authority.



And why should they be?  They are entitled to their beliefs.  
What the shrill, screaming lefties need to understand is that forcing everybody to compromise whatever beliefs they may have, so as not to offend some whining jokers, is discrimination too.


Ok so if the school objected to her lifestyle choice, why didn't they a) expell her, or b) admit that the reason she couldn't bring her girlfriend was, well, because she WAS a girl???

Why go through the song and dance about 'no Year 10 students' and then allow a male Yr 10 student to attend???


Because the reaction of the brainless PC clowns is as predictable as clockwork?
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