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Re: No room for girlfriends at Ivanhoe Girls' dance
Reply #60 - Nov 11^th, 2010 at 8:10pm

HigherBeam wrote on Nov 11^th, 2010 at 4:14pm:

... wrote on Nov 11^th, 2010 at 4:00pm:

HigherBeam wrote on Nov 11^th, 2010 at 3:56pm:

aussiefree2ride wrote on Nov 11^th, 2010 at 3:55pm:

Equitist wrote on Nov 11^th, 2010 at 3:50pm:

aussiefree2ride wrote on Nov 11^th, 2010 at 3:46pm:

I saw the segment on the "lesbian" brats last night, a more worthless pair of deadbeats would be hard to find anywhere.

Huh!?

They seemed like pretty typical 21st century teenage girls to me...judging by the female peers of my sons, nieces, nephews and neighbours...

Tell your kids to be a bit more selective, discriminatory even. They won`t need to go far to find a role model. Grin

They wont find it in you amoeba

Higherbeam is throwing a tanty these girls would be proud of.

I dont like trolls with no brains and have only negative things to say.and wont participate except to troll.if he wants to stop his trolling I will back off

Go your hardest silly, retards don`t bother me.

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Re: No room for girlfriends at Ivanhoe Girls' dance
Reply #61 - Nov 11^th, 2010 at 8:48pm

It_is_the_Darkness wrote on Nov 11^th, 2010 at 9:09am:

...I've also noticed that the regular female contributers on this Forum don't appear as often now, since the Homosexual Threads showed that the majority of Males dissagree with the Gay thing. (like der!)

When you say gay thing, do you mean a person who is a bit goofy and lame?

Or something (anything) that you don't like and/or agree with?

Or sexual relations between two members of the same sex?

Or do you mean to disagree with the act of penetrative sex between two males?

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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 121140 Melbourne Gender:	Re: No room for girlfriends at Ivanhoe Girls' dance Reply #62 - Nov 11^th, 2010 at 11:07pm I feel sorry for the girls but on the other hand - why couldn't they arrange male dance partners just for the night? Perhaps they would have learnt something & it would have been a rewarding experience for them?
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Re: No room for girlfriends at Ivanhoe Girls' dance
Reply #63 - Nov 12^th, 2010 at 6:38am

Bobby. wrote on Nov 11^th, 2010 at 11:07pm:

I feel sorry for the girls but on the other hand -

why couldn't they arrange male dance partners just for the night?

Perhaps they would have learnt something & it would have been
a rewarding experience for them?

Why should they have had to bobby??

How would you feel if you were told you HAD to take a male partner to a dinner/dance, instead of your wife/girlfriend????

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Re: No room for girlfriends at Ivanhoe Girls' dance
Reply #64 - Nov 12^th, 2010 at 7:18am

... wrote on Nov 11^th, 2010 at 4:57pm:

Equitist wrote on Nov 11^th, 2010 at 4:19pm:

Apparently, the year 11 girl Hannah did not break any documented school rules - and she was not suspended or expelled, rather she is being withdrawn from the school due to parental concern over targeted discrimination...

If anything, it would seem that the school's Principal has been making up special discriminatory rules around that particular girl's case as it went along...

It has been claimed, that a Yr 10 boy (who cannot be a student at the all-girls school and cannot therefore be a fee-paying student) was ultimately permitted to attend that Formal as a 'guest' of another Yr 11 girl...

However, the girl Hannah's Yr 10 girlfriend is/was a fee-paying student at the school...

So, if that claim is true, then the school ought to be in deep shyte - especially if girl Hannah was (as has been alleged) the only student who was asked to provide details of the age of her intended Formal 'guest'...

You'd think if that was true, then the EOC would have made a ruling against the school pretty quick smart? But they havent.....

Wrong. This is the reason it was dismissed:

ANTI-DISCRIMINATION ACT 1977 - SECT 49ZO
Education
49ZO Education

(1) It is unlawful for an educational authority to discriminate against a person on the ground of homosexuality:
(a) by refusing or failing to accept the person’s application for admission as a student, or
(b) in the terms on which it is prepared to admit the person as a student.

(2) It is unlawful for an educational authority to discriminate against a student on the ground of homosexuality:
(a) by denying the student access, or limiting the student’s access, to any benefit provided by the educational authority, or
(b) by expelling the student or subjecting the student to any other detriment.

(3) Nothing in this section applies to or in respect of a private educational authority.

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Re: No room for girlfriends at Ivanhoe Girls' dance
Reply #65 - Nov 12^th, 2010 at 7:21am

what_katy_did wrote on Nov 12^th, 2010 at 7:18am:

Wrong. This is the reason it was dismissed:

ANTI-DISCRIMINATION ACT 1977 - SECT 49ZO
Education
49ZO Education

(1) It is unlawful for an educational authority to discriminate against a person on the ground of homosexuality:
(a) by refusing or failing to accept the person’s application for admission as a student, or
(b) in the terms on which it is prepared to admit the person as a student.

(2) It is unlawful for an educational authority to discriminate against a student on the ground of homosexuality:
(a) by denying the student access, or limiting the student’s access, to any benefit provided by the educational authority, or
(b) by expelling the student or subjecting the student to any other detriment.

(3) Nothing in this section applies to or in respect of a private educational authority.

You see, private schools can do what they want. NONE of the anti-discrimination legislation applies to them - they can refuse a child if they have a disability!

And the state funds private schools and allows them to have exemption from basic human rights legislation.

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Re: No room for girlfriends at Ivanhoe Girls' dance
Reply #66 - Nov 12^th, 2010 at 7:23am

what_katy_did wrote on Nov 12^th, 2010 at 7:18am:

Wrong. This is the reason it was dismissed:

ANTI-DISCRIMINATION ACT 1977 - SECT 49ZO
Education
49ZO Education

(1) It is unlawful for an educational authority to discriminate against a person on the ground of homosexuality:
(a) by refusing or failing to accept the person’s application for admission as a student, or
(b) in the terms on which it is prepared to admit the person as a student.

(2) It is unlawful for an educational authority to discriminate against a student on the ground of homosexuality:
(a) by denying the student access, or limiting the student’s access, to any benefit provided by the educational authority, or
(b) by expelling the student or subjecting the student to any other detriment.

(3) Nothing in this section applies to or in respect of a private educational authority.

You see, private schools can do what they want. NONE of the anti-discrimination legislation applies to them - they can refuse a child if they have a disability!

And the state funds private schools and allows them to have exemption from basic human rights legislation.

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Re: No room for girlfriends at Ivanhoe Girls' dance
Reply #67 - Nov 12^th, 2010 at 7:40am

gizmo_2655 wrote on Nov 12^th, 2010 at 6:38am:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 11^th, 2010 at 11:07pm:

I feel sorry for the girls but on the other hand -

why couldn't they arrange male dance partners just for the night?

Perhaps they would have learnt something & it would have been
a rewarding experience for them?

Why should they have had to bobby??

How would you feel if you were told you HAD to take a male partner to a dinner/dance, instead of your wife/girlfriend????

Why? - I just said why - a rewarding & learning experience.
You are supposed to learn something a school.

I wouldn't accept having to go to a dance with a guy because I am a guy.
Guys don't dance together - what a stupid question.
Only poofs dance together.

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Re: No room for girlfriends at Ivanhoe Girls' dance
Reply #68 - Nov 12^th, 2010 at 8:34am

Bobby. wrote on Nov 12^th, 2010 at 7:40am:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Nov 12^th, 2010 at 6:38am:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 11^th, 2010 at 11:07pm:

I feel sorry for the girls but on the other hand -

why couldn't they arrange male dance partners just for the night?

Perhaps they would have learnt something & it would have been
a rewarding experience for them?

Why should they have had to bobby??

How would you feel if you were told you HAD to take a male partner to a dinner/dance, instead of your wife/girlfriend????

Why? - I just said why - a rewarding & learning experience.
You are supposed to learn something a school.

I wouldn't accept having to go to a dance with a guy because I am a guy.
Guys don't dance together - what a stupid question.
Only poofs dance together.

That's my point bobby, you would be angry if you were told to take a man, because YOU prefer girls....
The same thing applies to this girl, she prefers girls, so why should she be forced to go to the dance with someone other than her preference???

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"I just get sick of people who place a label on someone else with their own definition.

It's similar to a strawman fallacy"
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Re: No room for girlfriends at Ivanhoe Girls' dance
Reply #69 - Nov 12^th, 2010 at 8:39am

what_katy_did wrote on Nov 12^th, 2010 at 7:18am:

... wrote on Nov 11^th, 2010 at 4:57pm:

Equitist wrote on Nov 11^th, 2010 at 4:19pm:

Apparently, the year 11 girl Hannah did not break any documented school rules - and she was not suspended or expelled, rather she is being withdrawn from the school due to parental concern over targeted discrimination...

If anything, it would seem that the school's Principal has been making up special discriminatory rules around that particular girl's case as it went along...

It has been claimed, that a Yr 10 boy (who cannot be a student at the all-girls school and cannot therefore be a fee-paying student) was ultimately permitted to attend that Formal as a 'guest' of another Yr 11 girl...

However, the girl Hannah's Yr 10 girlfriend is/was a fee-paying student at the school...

So, if that claim is true, then the school ought to be in deep shyte - especially if girl Hannah was (as has been alleged) the only student who was asked to provide details of the age of her intended Formal 'guest'...

You'd think if that was true, then the EOC would have made a ruling against the school pretty quick smart? But they havent.....

Wrong. This is the reason it was dismissed:

ANTI-DISCRIMINATION ACT 1977 - SECT 49ZO
Education
49ZO Education

(1) It is unlawful for an educational authority to discriminate against a person on the ground of homosexuality:
(a) by refusing or failing to accept the person’s application for admission as a student, or
(b) in the terms on which it is prepared to admit the person as a student.

(2) It is unlawful for an educational authority to discriminate against a student on the ground of homosexuality:
(a) by denying the student access, or limiting the student’s access, to any benefit provided by the educational authority, or
(b) by expelling the student or subjecting the student to any other detriment.

(3) Nothing in this section applies to or in respect of a private educational authority.

I feel for the kid, but it wasnt the kid who was denied access, it was their partner.

Also, the whole idea of a private school is that.

People are free to come and go, but if you come you do so under the rules of that organisation.

Its a tough luck situation, but it wasnt a public school.

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Re: No room for girlfriends at Ivanhoe Girls' dance
Reply #70 - Nov 12^th, 2010 at 9:52am

Verge wrote on Nov 12^th, 2010 at 8:39am:

what_katy_did wrote on Nov 12^th, 2010 at 7:18am:

... wrote on Nov 11^th, 2010 at 4:57pm:

Equitist wrote on Nov 11^th, 2010 at 4:19pm:

Apparently, the year 11 girl Hannah did not break any documented school rules - and she was not suspended or expelled, rather she is being withdrawn from the school due to parental concern over targeted discrimination...

If anything, it would seem that the school's Principal has been making up special discriminatory rules around that particular girl's case as it went along...

It has been claimed, that a Yr 10 boy (who cannot be a student at the all-girls school and cannot therefore be a fee-paying student) was ultimately permitted to attend that Formal as a 'guest' of another Yr 11 girl...

However, the girl Hannah's Yr 10 girlfriend is/was a fee-paying student at the school...

So, if that claim is true, then the school ought to be in deep shyte - especially if girl Hannah was (as has been alleged) the only student who was asked to provide details of the age of her intended Formal 'guest'...

You'd think if that was true, then the EOC would have made a ruling against the school pretty quick smart? But they havent.....

Wrong. This is the reason it was dismissed:

ANTI-DISCRIMINATION ACT 1977 - SECT 49ZO
Education
49ZO Education

(1) It is unlawful for an educational authority to discriminate against a person on the ground of homosexuality:
(a) by refusing or failing to accept the person’s application for admission as a student, or
(b) in the terms on which it is prepared to admit the person as a student.

(2) It is unlawful for an educational authority to discriminate against a student on the ground of homosexuality:
(a) by denying the student access, or limiting the student’s access, to any benefit provided by the educational authority, or
(b) by expelling the student or subjecting the student to any other detriment.

(3) Nothing in this section applies to or in respect of a private educational authority.

I feel for the kid, but it wasnt the kid who was denied access, it was their partner.

Also, the whole idea of a private school is that.

People are free to come and go, but if you come you do so under the rules of that organisation.

Its a tough luck situation, but it wasnt a public school.

Well whaddya know...there IS a bit of common sense applied to the anti-discrimination act after all!

Why should people/organisations be forced to condone things which go against their beliefs?

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Re: No room for girlfriends at Ivanhoe Girls' dance
Reply #71 - Nov 12^th, 2010 at 10:21am

gizmo_2655 wrote on Nov 12^th, 2010 at 8:34am:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 12^th, 2010 at 7:40am:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Nov 12^th, 2010 at 6:38am:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 11^th, 2010 at 11:07pm:

I feel sorry for the girls but on the other hand -

why couldn't they arrange male dance partners just for the night?

Perhaps they would have learnt something & it would have been
a rewarding experience for them?

Why should they have had to bobby??

How would you feel if you were told you HAD to take a male partner to a dinner/dance, instead of your wife/girlfriend????

Why? - I just said why - a rewarding & learning experience.
You are supposed to learn something a school.

I wouldn't accept having to go to a dance with a guy because I am a guy.
Guys don't dance together - what a stupid question.
Only poofs dance together.

That's my point bobby, you would be angry if you were told to take a man, because YOU prefer girls....
The same thing applies to this girl, she prefers girls, so why should she be forced to go to the dance with someone other than her preference???

Because it is good for her development.
It's part of the process of learning.
She will have interact with males at some stage & this will prepare her.

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Reply #72 - Nov 12^th, 2010 at 10:36am

Bobby. wrote on Nov 12^th, 2010 at 10:21am:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Nov 12^th, 2010 at 8:34am:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 12^th, 2010 at 7:40am:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Nov 12^th, 2010 at 6:38am:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 11^th, 2010 at 11:07pm:

I feel sorry for the girls but on the other hand -

why couldn't they arrange male dance partners just for the night?

Perhaps they would have learnt something & it would have been
a rewarding experience for them?

Why should they have had to bobby??

How would you feel if you were told you HAD to take a male partner to a dinner/dance, instead of your wife/girlfriend????

Why? - I just said why - a rewarding & learning experience.
You are supposed to learn something a school.

I wouldn't accept having to go to a dance with a guy because I am a guy.
Guys don't dance together - what a stupid question.
Only poofs dance together.

That's my point bobby, you would be angry if you were told to take a man, because YOU prefer girls....
The same thing applies to this girl, she prefers girls, so why should she be forced to go to the dance with someone other than her preference???

Because it is good for her development.
It's part of the process of learning.
She will have interact with males at some stage & this will prepare her.

And at the risk of sounding cliche, what if she preferred orangutans, but was told to bring a human? eh?

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Reply #73 - Nov 12^th, 2010 at 10:37am

Bobby. wrote on Nov 12^th, 2010 at 10:21am:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Nov 12^th, 2010 at 8:34am:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 12^th, 2010 at 7:40am:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Nov 12^th, 2010 at 6:38am:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 11^th, 2010 at 11:07pm:

I feel sorry for the girls but on the other hand -

why couldn't they arrange male dance partners just for the night?

Perhaps they would have learnt something & it would have been
a rewarding experience for them?

Why should they have had to bobby??

How would you feel if you were told you HAD to take a male partner to a dinner/dance, instead of your wife/girlfriend????

Why? - I just said why - a rewarding & learning experience.
You are supposed to learn something a school.

I wouldn't accept having to go to a dance with a guy because I am a guy.
Guys don't dance together - what a stupid question.
Only poofs dance together.

That's my point bobby, you would be angry if you were told to take a man, because YOU prefer girls....
The same thing applies to this girl, she prefers girls, so why should she be forced to go to the dance with someone other than her preference???

Because it is good for her development.
It's part of the process of learning.
She will have interact with males at some stage & this will prepare her.

The girl's 16 or something isn't she?? How likely is it that a 16 yr old hasn't interacted with boys for most of her life??

She's only been going out with her girlfriend for 8 months ,so possibly the girl herself had only realised her sexuality in the last couple of years.....

12 or 14 years of 'interacting' with males should be all the practice she needs....

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It's similar to a strawman fallacy"
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Reply #74 - Nov 12^th, 2010 at 10:43am

gizmo_2655 wrote on Nov 12^th, 2010 at 10:37am:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 12^th, 2010 at 10:21am:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Nov 12^th, 2010 at 8:34am:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 12^th, 2010 at 7:40am:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Nov 12^th, 2010 at 6:38am:

Bobby. wrote on Nov 11^th, 2010 at 11:07pm:

I feel sorry for the girls but on the other hand -

why couldn't they arrange male dance partners just for the night?

Perhaps they would have learnt something & it would have been
a rewarding experience for them?

Why should they have had to bobby??

How would you feel if you were told you HAD to take a male partner to a dinner/dance, instead of your wife/girlfriend????

Why? - I just said why - a rewarding & learning experience.
You are supposed to learn something a school.

I wouldn't accept having to go to a dance with a guy because I am a guy.
Guys don't dance together - what a stupid question.
Only poofs dance together.

That's my point bobby, you would be angry if you were told to take a man, because YOU prefer girls....
The same thing applies to this girl, she prefers girls, so why should she be forced to go to the dance with someone other than her preference???

Because it is good for her development.
It's part of the process of learning.
She will have interact with males at some stage & this will prepare her.

The girl's 16 or something isn't she?? How likely is it that a 16 yr old hasn't interacted with boys for most of her life??

She's only been going out with her girlfriend for 8 months ,so possibly the girl herself had only realised her sexuality in the last couple of years.....

12 or 14 years of 'interacting' with males should be all the practice she needs....

LOL...yes, because 16 year old boys or girls are sooo worldly, wise and mature aren't they?

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