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Re: Do Christians Vote As A Block?
Reply #90 - Nov 1^st, 2010 at 10:14am

Equitist wrote on Nov 1^st, 2010 at 8:22am:

nichy wrote on Nov 1^st, 2010 at 8:17am:

Most parents send their kids to religious schools for dogmatic and/or elitist reasons - just as most parents of other private schools do...Equitist.

Total Crap equitist.

Ooops, sorry, you know better, I forgot !

OK, Nichy et al, here's your chance to explain the reasons why parents choose to send their children to Catholic and other independent/private schools...

Go for it!

Better educational and life outcomes as PROVEN by research.

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Reply #91 - Nov 1^st, 2010 at 10:16pm

longweekend58 wrote on Nov 1^st, 2010 at 10:14am:

Equitist wrote on Nov 1^st, 2010 at 8:22am:

nichy wrote on Nov 1^st, 2010 at 8:17am:

Most parents send their kids to religious schools for dogmatic and/or elitist reasons - just as most parents of other private schools do...Equitist.

Total Crap equitist.

Ooops, sorry, you know better, I forgot !

OK, Nichy et al, here's your chance to explain the reasons why parents choose to send their children to Catholic and other independent/private schools...

Go for it!

Better educational and life outcomes as PROVEN by research.

As a result of inequitable funding arrangements brought in by the Howard Government!!!

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Hlysnan Senior Member Offline Riht, Fr[ch275]od[ch333]m, Wærscipe Posts: 449 Burwood Gender:	Re: Do Christians Vote As A Block? Reply #92 - Nov 1^st, 2010 at 10:21pm Most Catholic schools in my area charge $2000 per student. They get $5000 per student from the government. This totals to $7000. Government schools get $10000/student. Inequitable funding arrangements? Yes, but I don't think you have the right idea of who is wealthier than who. (all figures are yearly)
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Re: Do Christians Vote As A Block?
Reply #93 - Nov 1^st, 2010 at 10:31pm

Hlysnan wrote on Nov 1^st, 2010 at 10:21pm:

Most Catholic schools in my area charge $2000 per student. They get $5000 per student from the government. This totals to $7000. Government schools get $10000/student. Inequitable funding arrangements? Yes, but I don't think you have the right idea of who is wealthier than who.

(all figures are yearly)

Hmmnnn....how much of a contribution do you expect one of the world's wealthiest institutions to make to cover the indoctrination-cum-education of the children of their flock!?

How much of a contribution is the church making - is it quantified!?

Moreover, how much are these children and their parents and diocese benefiting from their school-cum-church's tax-free charitable status!?

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Hlysnan Senior Member Offline Riht, Fr[ch275]od[ch333]m, Wærscipe Posts: 449 Burwood Gender:	Re: Do Christians Vote As A Block? Reply #94 - Nov 1^st, 2010 at 10:35pm A couple of years ago, Christian Brothers (a religious school) closed down in my suburb because they couldn't afford to keep it open anymore. I don't know how much contribution the church pays out but if this sort of thing happens, I doubt it's very significant.
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Re: Do Christians Vote As A Block?
Reply #95 - Nov 1^st, 2010 at 10:37pm

Hlysnan wrote on Nov 1^st, 2010 at 10:35pm:

A couple of years ago, Christian Brothers (a religious school) closed down in my suburb because they couldn't afford to keep it open anymore. I don't know how much contribution the church pays out but if this sort of thing happens, I doubt it's very significant.

I expect that there were a range of factors at play - the most tenable of which was affordability...

Perhaps the church had alternative long-term plans...

Either way, it is interesting that some people push for Aussie Govts to subsidise Xtian education more - in lieu of pressing the wealthy foreign church for funds to support its international indoctrination campaign...

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Equitist Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 9632 NSW	Re: Do Christians Vote As A Block? Reply #96 - Nov 1^st, 2010 at 10:43pm Meantime, folks, I note that there has been no tenable case put to refute my earlier comments about the motivations of parents in choosing non-public schooling for their children...
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Reply #97 - Nov 1^st, 2010 at 10:47pm

Hlysnan wrote on Nov 1^st, 2010 at 10:21pm:

Most Catholic schools in my area charge $2000 per student. They get $5000 per student from the government. This totals to $7000. Government schools get $10000/student. Inequitable funding arrangements? Yes, but I don't think you have the right idea of who is wealthier than who.

(all figures are yearly)

Fair enough....do you have a link or do we have to take your word for it???

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Re: Do Christians Vote As A Block?
Reply #98 - Nov 1^st, 2010 at 11:22pm

philperth2010 wrote on Nov 1^st, 2010 at 10:47pm:

Hlysnan wrote on Nov 1^st, 2010 at 10:21pm:

Most Catholic schools in my area charge $2000 per student. They get $5000 per student from the government. This totals to $7000. Government schools get $10000/student. Inequitable funding arrangements? Yes, but I don't think you have the right idea of who is wealthier than who.

(all figures are yearly)

Fair enough....do you have a link or do we have to take your word for it???

It's past my pumpkin time so I am off to bed - but I seem to recall that the relevant information can be found at those pages linked by me a page or 2 back on this thread...

Nite folks!

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Re: Do Christians Vote As A Block?
Reply #99 - Nov 2^nd, 2010 at 8:02am

Equitist wrote on Nov 1^st, 2010 at 10:43pm:

Meantime, folks, I note that there has been no tenable case put to refute my earlier comments about the motivations of parents in choosing non-public schooling for their children...

You havent probably worked this out, but as a rule people are choosing not to engage your rather shrill and ludicrous claims. There is no standard that you would accept other than your own opinion. It has been shown time and time again why people send their kids to private schools. Because you personally dont beleive them you therefore dont accept them and then ask the question all over again expecting the answer to somehow be different this time.

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Reply #100 - Nov 2^nd, 2010 at 8:20am

Equitist wrote on Nov 1^st, 2010 at 10:37pm:

Hlysnan wrote on Nov 1^st, 2010 at 10:35pm:

A couple of years ago, Christian Brothers (a religious school) closed down in my suburb because they couldn't afford to keep it open anymore. I don't know how much contribution the church pays out but if this sort of thing happens, I doubt it's very significant.

I expect that there were a range of factors at play - the most tenable of which was affordability...

Perhaps the church had alternative long-term plans...

Either way, it is interesting that some people push for Aussie Govts to subsidise Xtian education more - in lieu of pressing the wealthy foreign church for funds to support its international indoctrination campaign...

it makes me wonder if you have ever been anywhere near a christian school. you clearly have little idea what goes on there. Many of us could tell you, but would there be any point? would you even listen?

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