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mellie Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 8142 Sydney Gender:	Re: Pink Ribbon gender politics Reply #15 - Oct 27^th, 2010 at 9:21am Simple, Pink Ribbons are a political campaign $$ spinner. And Gillards loving every bit of it.
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Annie Anthrax Gold Member Offline Posts: 7062 Gender:	Re: Pink Ribbon gender politics Reply #16 - Oct 27^th, 2010 at 9:22am AussieF2R - your ignorance doesn't surprise me. Quote: The American Cancer Society reports that in 2010, approximately 1,970 men will be diagnosed with invasive breast cancer.
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Annie Anthrax Gold Member Offline Posts: 7062 Gender:	Re: Pink Ribbon gender politics Reply #17 - Oct 27^th, 2010 at 9:27am .
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Reply #18 - Oct 27^th, 2010 at 9:27am

And yes Muso, chartable orgs are very political, omg, where have you been living, under a rock?

Grin

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Ignorance is bliss I guess, and so long as wearing that little pink feel-good ribbon makes you feel like a lovely person for a day, then it will have been all worth while, yes?

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"Look at sanctimonious suck-job me, I grew a moe to support some CEO's desire to line his wallet and buy his 2nd yacht this summer, aren't I wonderful."

Oh, wonderful chartable me~

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aikmann4 Gold Member Offline Posts: 2093 canberra	Re: Pink Ribbon gender politics Reply #19 - Oct 27^th, 2010 at 9:30am I'd say Mellie has a point. Engaging in charitable behavior is a status marker for many people.
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mellie Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 8142 Sydney Gender:	Re: Pink Ribbon gender politics Reply #20 - Oct 27^th, 2010 at 9:34am aikmann4 wrote on Oct 27^th, 2010 at 9:30am: I'd say Mellie has a point. Engaging in charitable behavior is a status marker for many people. And a real chick-puller in predominantly female work-places too...
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Annie Anthrax Gold Member Offline Posts: 7062 Gender:	Re: Pink Ribbon gender politics Reply #21 - Oct 27^th, 2010 at 9:36am If growing a mo for a month creates awareness which encourages men to get their prostate checked, only good can come from it. Who cares what motivates people to participate in the campaigns?
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Reply #22 - Oct 27^th, 2010 at 9:41am

I call this the subordinate pink-ribbon workplace male syndrome.

Though it's equally apparent among female staff also, who are more or less rated in accordance with how 'compliant' they are with organisational endorsements of this nature.

My mother (a regional manager of a health related service org) was asked by one of her more senior managers why she herself wasn't wearing her pink ribbon last year at a staff meeting.

Needles to say, she didn't get her promotion this year.... ha ha ha see it pays to have more than one pink strings to your bows these days.

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mellie Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 8142 Sydney Gender:	Re: Pink Ribbon gender politics Reply #23 - Oct 27^th, 2010 at 9:42am Annie Anthrax wrote on Oct 27^th, 2010 at 9:36am: If growing a mo for a month creates awareness which encourages men to get their prostate checked, only good can come from it. Who cares what motivates people to participate in the campaigns? It's the principle of the thing Ann.
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Reply #24 - Oct 27^th, 2010 at 9:45am

What many seem to forget is cancers such as breast cancer recieve plenty of support for a number of reasons.

1 - Publicity. There has been numerous sufferers who have taken their personal fight to the public eye to raise awareness.

2 - Women are far more open about such things. In a society of 'macho men' men hide their illnesses. Thats why charities like beyond blue have worked so hard in the last decade, trying to smash through the ego.

3 - Men place more value on the lives of the women in their life than the men. Its the old hunter and gatherer coming out in them. A son wont make a fuss about fathers day but wont forget mothers day. And when they see the women in their lives suffer they will always do anything they can to help.
It takes me back to when my mother passed at only 53 to cancer, my us boys were a complete and utter wreck, my father completley devastated, not the man he was. When only 4 years later my father also had to face his own mortality there was no comparison to the way he faced his own treatment to the way he reacted to my mothers. He has baffled the doc's and is alive and cancer free now.

Men just dont seem to draw the same focus and attention to health issues of their own.

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Reply #25 - Oct 27^th, 2010 at 9:55am

Verge wrote on Oct 27^th, 2010 at 9:45am:

What many seem to forget is cancers such as breast cancer recieve plenty of support for a number of reasons.

1 - Publicity. There has been numerous sufferers who have taken their personal fight to the public eye to raise awareness.

2 - Women are far more open about such things. In a society of 'macho men' men hide their illnesses. Thats why charities like beyond blue have worked so hard in the last decade, trying to smash through the ego.

3 - Men place more value on the lives of the women in their life than the men. Its the old hunter and gatherer coming out in them. A son wont make a fuss about fathers day but wont forget mothers day. And when they see the women in their lives suffer they will always do anything they can to help.
It takes me back to when my mother passed at only 53 to cancer, my us boys were a complete and utter wreck, my father completley devastated, not the man he was. When only 4 years later my father also had to face his own mortality there was no comparison to the way he faced his own treatment to the way he reacted to my mothers. He has baffled the doc's and is alive and cancer free now.

Men just dont seem to draw the same focus and attention to health issues of their own.

Ironic, given many of these charitable orgs CEO's are just that..."MEN"

Grin

Uncanny isn't it.

Furthermore, given most donations are indeed tax-deductible, is it not a fact that we as a society on the whole pay our dues where chartable orgs are concerned, this and for others willingness to decorate their puffed-chests with assorted coloured ribbons, as though they were army stripes?

Wake up!

And see it for what it is. A rort!

Cheers.

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Reply #26 - Oct 27^th, 2010 at 10:10am

I refuse to give a penny to these campaigns where you get a crappy token to proudly display, to show just how caring and sharing you are to complete strangers. Make no mistake, this effect is what drives a good percentage of people to donate - that, and the tax deduction.

There does seem to be an abundance of women-only campaigns, but that doesn't suprise me with this whole 'equality' thing is implemented not by elevating the 'marginalised' group, but by tearing everyone else down. Quite how you'd say women are marginalised, under-represented or anything of the sort is a big call, but it seems to be the prevailing view within the elitist classes.

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Reply #27 - Oct 27^th, 2010 at 10:12am

Annie Anthrax wrote on Oct 27^th, 2010 at 9:36am:

If growing a mo for a month creates awareness which encourages men to get their prostate checked, only good can come from it.

Who cares what motivates people to participate in the campaigns?

Well it certainly wasn't peer respect in my case. I donate quite a few thousands to charity each year and tell nobody about it.

As far as CEO salaries are concerned, that is a miniscule part. If it takes $200,000 a year to get a CEO who will earn an additional $2 million in fund raising, it's a good investment.

- and if they raise those extra funds by preying on people's vanity or 'chick magnetism', at least their tactics result in more money going to the charity.

FFS, you lefties (and you're acting like one) [edit - that's directed to Mellie] seem to have an obsession with people who earn a decent salary. If you pay peanuts, you get monkeys.

- and by the way, it's not Public money. It's the money that comes from those who choose to donate, and we get a lot more details than those who choose not to donate. Who gives a flying bugger if nobody else gets that info?

One of my preferred charities is MSF, and that's because their overheads are so low. I know exactly what percentage of the money I donate goes towards the end users or research in the case of the cancer foundation.

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Reply #28 - Oct 27^th, 2010 at 10:14am

... wrote on Oct 27^th, 2010 at 10:10am:

I refuse to give a penny to these campaigns where you get a crappy token to proudly display, to show just how caring and sharing you are to complete strangers. Make no mistake, this effect is what drives a good percentage of people to donate - that, and the tax deduction.

There does seem to be an abundance of women-only campaigns, but that doesn't suprise me with this whole 'equality' thing is implemented not by elevating the 'marginalised' group, but by tearing everyone else down. Quite how you'd say women are marginalised, under-represented or anything of the sort is a big call, but it seems to be the prevailing view within the elitist classes.

Spot on!

.... And I couldn't agree more.

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mellie Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 8142 Sydney Gender:	Re: Pink Ribbon gender politics Reply #29 - Oct 27^th, 2010 at 10:18am And muso, when the funds come from the public, this and are indeed tax deductible, yes I think it becomes all of our business. Here, take a look at this. http://eprints.qut.edu.au/13517/ And these publications. http://www.bus.qut.edu.au/research/cpns/publications/#WorkingPapers Yes it is political.
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