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Re: $43 Billion : Afghanistan Or Broadband
Reply #15 - Sep 30^th, 2010 at 8:57am

____ wrote on Sep 30^th, 2010 at 8:32am:

Once again the coalition cheer squad have been revealed as a spent force. They support the waste of Australian life and limb on a lost war.

They have no exit strategy from Afghanistan so the $43 Billion will grow.

They have not committed to taking over the rolls of America or the UK, when these countries cut and run.

and on the broadband roll out, they oppose investing in Australia and Australians.

So why can't the coalition cheer squad put up a rational explanation of this contradiction ... is it because they are all unbalanced ... politically and in other ways !!!

Yawn. Comparing a war and infrastructure.

No wonder the greens needed to forumlate a coalition with the ALP, someone needs to put these irrational comparisions in check.

The greens, anti australia and anti prosperity.

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Re: $43 Billion : Afghanistan Or Broadband
Reply #16 - Sep 30^th, 2010 at 9:01am

At least Tony is open to a debate on the topic

Opposition Leader Tony Abbott signalled his strong support for the war but agreed a debate would be appropriate.

"I stress that both the coalition and the ALP strongly support that commitment but given that strong support from both sides of parliament I don't think it would hurt to debate this issue," he told reporters.

"Obviously, it is an important commitment.

"We don't lightly put the lives of Australian service personnel on the line in a commitment such as this."

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Reply #17 - Sep 30^th, 2010 at 9:05am

The Greens' stated policy is for the immediate withdrawal of troops. Beyond that, there is wishful thinking. NSW Green Lee Rhiannon, for instance, reckons our military budget could be spent on aid programs for Afghan women and children. Yes, but who will deliver that aid when the Taliban think aid workers are legitimate targets, as are girls at schools built by foreign aid money?

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Re: $43 Billion : Afghanistan Or Broadband
Reply #18 - Sep 30^th, 2010 at 9:19am

Verge wrote on Sep 30^th, 2010 at 8:57am:

____ wrote on Sep 30^th, 2010 at 8:32am:

Once again the coalition cheer squad have been revealed as a spent force. They support the waste of Australian life and limb on a lost war.

They have no exit strategy from Afghanistan so the $43 Billion will grow.

They have not committed to taking over the rolls of America or the UK, when these countries cut and run.

and on the broadband roll out, they oppose investing in Australia and Australians.

So why can't the coalition cheer squad put up a rational explanation of this contradiction ... is it because they are all unbalanced ... politically and in other ways !!!

Yawn. Comparing a war and infrastructure.

No wonder the greens needed to forumlate a coalition with the ALP, someone needs to put these irrational comparisions in check.

The greens, anti australia and anti prosperity.

Comparing $43 billion plus on a lost war ... to $43 billion on broadband infrastructure.

The coalition has again been revealed as foolish and anti Australian.

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Re: $43 Billion : Afghanistan Or Broadband
Reply #19 - Sep 30^th, 2010 at 9:25am

____ wrote on Sep 30^th, 2010 at 9:19am:

Verge wrote on Sep 30^th, 2010 at 8:57am:

____ wrote on Sep 30^th, 2010 at 8:32am:

Once again the coalition cheer squad have been revealed as a spent force. They support the waste of Australian life and limb on a lost war.

They have no exit strategy from Afghanistan so the $43 Billion will grow.

They have not committed to taking over the rolls of America or the UK, when these countries cut and run.

and on the broadband roll out, they oppose investing in Australia and Australians.

So why can't the coalition cheer squad put up a rational explanation of this contradiction ... is it because they are all unbalanced ... politically and in other ways !!!

Yawn. Comparing a war and infrastructure.

No wonder the greens needed to forumlate a coalition with the ALP, someone needs to put these irrational comparisions in check.

The greens, anti australia and anti prosperity.

Comparing $43 billion plus on a lost war ... to $43 billion on broadband infrastructure.

The coalition has again been revealed as foolish and anti Australian.

You are the idiot making the comparison, not us. You are the idiot trying to compare two completley unrelated issues.

Why dont you make comparisons to the billions wasted in the BER and insulation to broadband?

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Re: $43 Billion : Afghanistan Or Broadband
Reply #20 - Sep 30^th, 2010 at 9:38am

____ wrote on Sep 30^th, 2010 at 9:19am:

Verge wrote on Sep 30^th, 2010 at 8:57am:

____ wrote on Sep 30^th, 2010 at 8:32am:

Once again the coalition cheer squad have been revealed as a spent force. They support the waste of Australian life and limb on a lost war.

They have no exit strategy from Afghanistan so the $43 Billion will grow.

They have not committed to taking over the rolls of America or the UK, when these countries cut and run.

and on the broadband roll out, they oppose investing in Australia and Australians.

So why can't the coalition cheer squad put up a rational explanation of this contradiction ... is it because they are all unbalanced ... politically and in other ways !!!

Yawn. Comparing a war and infrastructure.

No wonder the greens needed to forumlate a coalition with the ALP, someone needs to put these irrational comparisions in check.

The greens, anti australia and anti prosperity.

Comparing $43 billion plus on a lost war ... to $43 billion on broadband infrastructure.

The coalition has again been revealed as foolish and anti Australian.

You do realise keeping 1500 soldiers in the field for 10 years, without having to provide air support or even our own artillary doesn't cost $43 bil.

But if you have any evidence to show that we have spent $43 bil on our time in Afghanistan, please feel free to provide it.

I know bullets are expensive and so is overseas allowances, but not that expensive.

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Re: $43 Billion : Afghanistan Or Broadband
Reply #21 - Sep 30^th, 2010 at 9:45am

Verge wrote on Sep 30^th, 2010 at 9:05am:

The Greens' stated policy is for the immediate withdrawal of troops. Beyond that, there is wishful thinking. NSW Green Lee Rhiannon, for instance, reckons our military budget could be spent on aid programs for Afghan women and children. Yes, but who will deliver that aid when the Taliban think aid workers are legitimate targets, as are girls at schools built by foreign aid money?

Aid money does nothing but create more problems. Back during the great depression in Ireland there was no such thing as Aid programs and population fell 30%. Fast forward too the 1980's we had Live Aid that was suppose to end poverty in Africa. but what happened was the complete opposite. Most the money raised was spend on Military and weapons. So in Hines site anyone who donated was funding increase poverty, famine, murders, rebel & government campaigns

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Reply #22 - Sep 30^th, 2010 at 9:57am

Countries like England and America will have( or are) re thinking their War spending budget. England needs to make spending cuts as reported this morning on the news.

I remember not so long ago reading a good article about War on Terrorism will bankgrupt countries. I think I will try and find that article....

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Re: $43 Billion : Afghanistan Or Broadband
Reply #23 - Sep 30^th, 2010 at 10:05am

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 30^th, 2010 at 9:38am:

____ wrote on Sep 30^th, 2010 at 9:19am:

Verge wrote on Sep 30^th, 2010 at 8:57am:

____ wrote on Sep 30^th, 2010 at 8:32am:

Once again the coalition cheer squad have been revealed as a spent force. They support the waste of Australian life and limb on a lost war.

They have no exit strategy from Afghanistan so the $43 Billion will grow.

They have not committed to taking over the rolls of America or the UK, when these countries cut and run.

and on the broadband roll out, they oppose investing in Australia and Australians.

So why can't the coalition cheer squad put up a rational explanation of this contradiction ... is it because they are all unbalanced ... politically and in other ways !!!

Yawn. Comparing a war and infrastructure.

No wonder the greens needed to forumlate a coalition with the ALP, someone needs to put these irrational comparisions in check.

The greens, anti australia and anti prosperity.

Comparing $43 billion plus on a lost war ... to $43 billion on broadband infrastructure.

The coalition has again been revealed as foolish and anti Australian.

You do realise keeping 1500 soldiers in the field for 10 years, without having to provide air support or even our own artillary doesn't cost $43 bil.

But if you have any evidence to show that we have spent $43 bil on our time in Afghanistan, please feel free to provide it.

I know bullets are expensive and so is overseas allowances, but not that expensive.

Exit from Afghanistan War ... lets say, year 2094

$43 Billion is an underestimation

So coalition cheer squad ... when does the coalition plan to admit defeat in Afghanistan?

Once that is stated, a closer cost is $$$, if not human life, can then be calculated.

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Re: $43 Billion : Afghanistan Or Broadband
Reply #24 - Sep 30^th, 2010 at 10:14am

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Countries like England and America will have( or are) re thinking their War spending budget. England needs to make spending cuts as reported this morning on the news.

I remember not so long ago reading a good article about War on Terrorism will bankgrupt countries. I think I will try and find that article....

Logical argument eh Vegetable.......UK and The USA are going to cut their budget on combating terrorism and liberating the Afghan people when both countries have lost many civilians and troops in their endeavours so far……..you’re a bloody genius are you not………….

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Reply #25 - Sep 30^th, 2010 at 10:22am

____ wrote on Sep 30^th, 2010 at 10:05am:

[quote author=bigol64 link=1285765170/15#20 date=1285803495][quote author=Tony_Abbott link=1285765170/15#18 date=1285802363][quote author=Verge link=1285765170/15#15 date=1285801077][quote author=Tony_Abbott link=1285765170/0#13 date=1285799568]

Exit from Afghanistan War ... lets say, year 2094

$43 Billion is an underestimation

So coalition cheer squad ... when does the coalition plan to admit defeat in Afghanistan?

Once that is stated, a closer cost is $$$, if not human life, can then be calculated.

So now that you have been found out lying about the true cost of the war, you want us to believe that it will now last until 2094.

Ok Ill bite, any evidence that the war will last until 2094, remember you did also state that the US and the UK intend to cut and run.

Like a typical greenie, just make shiat up to support your own idiotic opinions / arguments. Grin

Green, stick to what you know (stuff all) and leave the complex stuff to people who don't live every moment of their lives based on the teachings of chairman brown the clown.

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Re: $43 Billion : Afghanistan Or Broadband
Reply #26 - Sep 30^th, 2010 at 10:26am

____ wrote on Sep 30^th, 2010 at 7:33am:

So does the $43 Billion Australia is throwing at the Afghan war, guarantee terrorism will be defeated codswal?

Or is it a stop gap measure to keep the war machine cashed up.

let me ask you a question woody..like you usually do rather than answer one... did WW11 bring everlasting peace?????..

stop gap!!! really what an explanation typical greenie..

war is lousy name me a time when we didnt have one.. bet you cant.all male oriented btw..havent heard of too many wars started by the women..oh Bodesia had a way with her didnt she..lol..anyway woody nothing humans do will ever be perfect and I dont expect it to change, unlike you greenies... you think turning off all electricity will save the planet...yeah right!

you dont look at the reasons behind the mistakes.. you just think STOP and it will all change. and go away.. bring the troops home woody you have the power now dont forget and lets see what happens, and see if you will accept any responsibilty.. with actions comes responsibility something you guys havent had to deal with before.

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Re: $43 Billion : Afghanistan Or Broadband
Reply #27 - Sep 30^th, 2010 at 10:36am

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 30^th, 2010 at 10:22am:

____ wrote on Sep 30^th, 2010 at 10:05am:

[quote author=bigol64 link=1285765170/15#20 date=1285803495][quote author=Tony_Abbott link=1285765170/15#18 date=1285802363][quote author=Verge link=1285765170/15#15 date=1285801077][quote author=Tony_Abbott link=1285765170/0#13 date=1285799568]

Exit from Afghanistan War ... lets say, year 2094

$43 Billion is an underestimation

So coalition cheer squad ... when does the coalition plan to admit defeat in Afghanistan?

Once that is stated, a closer cost is $$$, if not human life, can then be calculated.

So now that you have been found out lying about the true cost of the war, you want us to believe that it will now last until 2094.

Ok Ill bite, any evidence that the war will last until 2094, remember you did also state that the US and the UK intend to cut and run.

Like a typical greenie, just make shiat up to support your own idiotic opinions / arguments. Grin

Green, stick to what you know (stuff all) and leave the complex stuff to people who don't live every moment of their lives based on the teachings of chairman brown the clown.

the trouble with some statements they dont mention the massive debt both countries have and unless they want to sink into oblivion they have to start somewhere... England or as I like to call it Britain have their own terrorism in their own back yard... something we are not living every day with... but of course if the lefties get their way I guess its on the cards.

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Re: $43 Billion : Afghanistan Or Broadband
Reply #28 - Sep 30^th, 2010 at 10:39am

codswal wrote on Sep 30^th, 2010 at 10:26am:

____ wrote on Sep 30^th, 2010 at 7:33am:

So does the $43 Billion Australia is throwing at the Afghan war, guarantee terrorism will be defeated codswal?

Or is it a stop gap measure to keep the war machine cashed up.

let me ask you a question woody..like you usually do rather than answer one... did WW11 bring everlasting peace?????..

stop gap!!! really what an explanation typical greenie..

war is lousy name me a time when we didnt have one.. bet you cant.all male oriented btw..havent heard of too many wars started by the women..oh Bodesia had a way with her didnt she..lol..anyway woody nothing humans do will ever be perfect and I dont expect it to change, unlike you greenies... you think turning off all electricity will save the planet...yeah right!

you dont look at the reasons behind the mistakes.. you just think STOP and it will all change. and go away.. bring the troops home woody you have the power now dont forget and lets see what happens, and see if you will accept any responsibilty.. with actions comes responsibility something you guys havent had to deal with before.

Easy aye cods, with brown the clown controlling the senate in July, the troops should be home by August and all coal mines shut down by Xmas. Grin

We will be a socialist utopia by this time next year, all thanks to the greens and their voters. Grin

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Re: $43 Billion : Afghanistan Or Broadband
Reply #29 - Sep 30^th, 2010 at 10:44am

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 30^th, 2010 at 10:22am:

____ wrote on Sep 30^th, 2010 at 10:05am:

[quote author=bigol64 link=1285765170/15#20 date=1285803495][quote author=Tony_Abbott link=1285765170/15#18 date=1285802363][quote author=Verge link=1285765170/15#15 date=1285801077][quote author=Tony_Abbott link=1285765170/0#13 date=1285799568]

Exit from Afghanistan War ... lets say, year 2094

$43 Billion is an underestimation

So coalition cheer squad ... when does the coalition plan to admit defeat in Afghanistan?

Once that is stated, a closer cost is $$$, if not human life, can then be calculated.

So now that you have been found out lying about the true cost of the war, you want us to believe that it will now last until 2094.

Ok Ill bite, any evidence that the war will last until 2094, remember you did also state that the US and the UK intend to cut and run.

Like a typical greenie, just make shiat up to support your own idiotic opinions / arguments. Grin

Green, stick to what you know (stuff all) and leave the complex stuff to people who don't live every moment of their lives based on the teachings of chairman brown the clown.

woody will now have to face the fact that his little minority group are facing responsibility not something they are used to...LOL...

itwill be interesting to see how much responsibility they take... bring back the troops woody stop wasting money on rubbish..like stopgaps ,we all know NBN is far more important

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