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Reply #225 - Sep 23rd, 2010 at 1:53pm
 
"And if it happens to be a loved one, or a child, or if there's no other alternative, then all I can say is that you'd better get the smack out of my way."

So you'd kill me, my family, and perhaps yourself and your loved one, to prove how macho you are? How wonderful.
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Reply #226 - Sep 23rd, 2010 at 4:54pm
 
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bet you were on the school  debating team  


bet you werent!
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Reply #227 - Sep 23rd, 2010 at 5:04pm
 
Please delete wrote on Sep 23rd, 2010 at 1:41pm:
Mr weekend, you can get angry and sarcastic all you like, but everything in these matters is "about you".

You've tangentialized this to ridiculous extremes, but I will maintain.

You are NOT capable of driving a car beyond the speed limits imposed by an expert, looking at the conditions, without endangering lives.

You don't have the driving training, the specially equipped vehicle, the flashing lights and siren.

To drive beyond the speed limits, in a panicked matter NO MATTER WHAT THE CIRCUMSTANCES, is to endanger your own life, your injured passengers' life, and other people's lives.

But don't let common sense stop you.


Thats a good one! You got virtually everything wrong.

The speed limits are NOT imposed by experts. They are in fact usually put in place by a bureaucrat who, if we are lucky, uses the australian standards for speed limits which are themseves set at the LOWEST common denominator. they are NOT the maximum safe speed at all. If that were the case you wouldnt have the same 60km limit on a narrow road that you have on a 6 lane arterial road. speed limits are placed with CONSISTENCY in mind - not safety.

The idea that I (or anyone else) cannot drive above the speed limit safely is ridiculous and assumes so much as to be laughable. to imagine that 65 in a 60 zone is somehow dangerous is stupid. Oh and btw, I actually DO have the training and I also have a car that would out perform and out handle (by a long way) cop cars and certainly ambulances.

So what would you do if someone in your family was sitting in the seat next to you dying and the ONLY way to save them was to speed to the hospital. Let's say even as 'fast' as 90Km/hr in a 60 zone. Would you choose to let them die rather than speed? Please answer, because I am fascinated with what response you can come up with.
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Reply #228 - Sep 23rd, 2010 at 5:06pm
 
Please delete wrote on Sep 23rd, 2010 at 1:53pm:
"And if it happens to be a loved one, or a child, or if there's no other alternative, then all I can say is that you'd better get the smack out of my way."

So you'd kill me, my family, and perhaps yourself and your loved one, to prove how macho you are? How wonderful.


classic stupidty from soneone who seems unable to read or comprehend a simple statement of risk management.
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Reply #229 - Sep 23rd, 2010 at 7:34pm
 
"So what would you do if someone in your family was sitting in the seat next to you dying and the ONLY way to save them was to speed to the hospital. Let's say even as 'fast' as 90Km/hr in a 60 zone. Would you choose to let them die rather than speed? Please answer, because I am fascinated with what response you can come up with. "

"Only way to save them"??? How is that measured? What are we talking about here? Decapitation?

I'd wait for the ambulance. Nothing is achieved if I crash the car, and all is lost.

At the very least I would make sure the ambulance was on it's way, and arrange to meet them somewhere (did this three years ago with a boat accident victim, so not speaking through my arse - and I didn't break any laws, or risk further accident).

This whole theoretical is based upon some third person, whom you never met, with a stake impaled in his leg - so now we need some more information - was he able to climb into the car? In which case I dispute his life was in danger, and racing him to the hospital was more of an endangerment than the accident in the first place.

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Reply #230 - Sep 23rd, 2010 at 7:35pm
 
"I actually DO have the training and I also have a car that would out perform and out handle (by a long way) cop cars and certainly ambulances."

Oh yawn! And double yawn!

You are SUCH a hero.
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Reply #231 - Sep 23rd, 2010 at 7:37pm
 
So they have a neck injury, and I decide to lift them into my car and race them to hospital, and because of MY stupidity they are a quadraplegic??

Do you have NO sense?
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Reply #232 - Sep 23rd, 2010 at 7:55pm
 
Someone said that emergency vehicles can exceed the speed limit.

They can't without prior approval and even then it's only by 10 or 20kph max depending on the posted limit and usually only once police are controlling traffic on that particular section of road.

Simply throwing on the light bar and siren doesn't mean they can disregard the posted speed limit.
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Reply #233 - Sep 23rd, 2010 at 8:07pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Sep 23rd, 2010 at 5:04pm:
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The idea that I (or anyone else) cannot drive above the speed limit safely is ridiculous and assumes so much as to be laughable. to imagine that 65 in a 60 zone is somehow dangerous is stupid. Oh and btw, I actually DO have the training and I also have a car that would out perform and out handle (by a long way) cop cars and certainly ambulances.


Mind if I ask what type of vehicle longy; only out of interest?

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So what would you do if someone in your family was sitting in the seat next to you dying and the ONLY way to save them was to speed to the hospital. Let's say even as 'fast' as 90Km/hr in a 60 zone. Would you choose to let them die rather than speed? Please answer, because I am fascinated with what response you can come up with.


I would call 000 whilst underway and advise them of the situation and that I was driving the injured to hospital, I had no intention of stopping, for anything, and if they were interested in talking to me they could do so at the destination.  An escort would be ideal.

Frankly where ever possible and safe to do so I would break land speed records if required and slow at intersections until clear to proceed through; if that involved running any posted or electronic speed limit or device so be it. 




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Reply #234 - Sep 23rd, 2010 at 8:11pm
 
Life_goes_on wrote on Sep 23rd, 2010 at 7:55pm:
Someone said that emergency vehicles can exceed the speed limit.

They can't without prior approval and even then it's only by 10 or 20kph max depending on the posted limit and usually only once police are controlling traffic on that particular section of road.

Simply throwing on the light bar and siren doesn't mean they can disregard the posted speed limit.


What is legal procedure and actually happens are two entirely different things.

I spend a lot of time on the Bruce Highway and frequently get passed at 110kph like I'm standing still by police, ambos and fire brig.  I often will pull in behind the coppers and sit with them if possible.  Hard to justify pulling me up when they are doing the same thing without following procedure.


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Reply #235 - Sep 23rd, 2010 at 8:24pm
 
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I spend a lot of time on the Bruce Highway and frequently get passed at 110kph like I'm standing still by police, ambos and fire brig.  I often will pull in behind the coppers and sit with them if possible.  Hard to justify pulling me up when they are doing the same thing without following procedure.


I don't doubt that happens. But one of our local ambos is currently sitting out a 12 month good behaviour after exceeding his points while on the job.
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Reply #236 - Sep 24th, 2010 at 11:21am
 
qikvtec wrote on Sep 23rd, 2010 at 8:07pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Sep 23rd, 2010 at 5:04pm:
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The idea that I (or anyone else) cannot drive above the speed limit safely is ridiculous and assumes so much as to be laughable. to imagine that 65 in a 60 zone is somehow dangerous is stupid. Oh and btw, I actually DO have the training and I also have a car that would out perform and out handle (by a long way) cop cars and certainly ambulances.


Mind if I ask what type of vehicle longy; only out of interest?

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So what would you do if someone in your family was sitting in the seat next to you dying and the ONLY way to save them was to speed to the hospital. Let's say even as 'fast' as 90Km/hr in a 60 zone. Would you choose to let them die rather than speed? Please answer, because I am fascinated with what response you can come up with.


I would call 000 whilst underway and advise them of the situation and that I was driving the injured to hospital, I had no intention of stopping, for anything, and if they were interested in talking to me they could do so at the destination.  An escort would be ideal.

Frankly where ever possible and safe to do so I would break land speed records if required and slow at intersections until clear to proceed through; if that involved running any posted or electronic speed limit or device so be it.  






I drive a BA FPV-GT which goes like a rocket and the handling is fantastic. no surprises when the back hangs out and the ride is great. also works well as a family car. 0-100 in 5.9.

I cant imagine ANYONE who would not break the speed limit to save someone's life. But apparently they DO exist!
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Reply #237 - Sep 24th, 2010 at 11:24am
 
The FPV-GT is a great car that you have.

I have to say Australians do make excellent performance cars by Ford and Holden.

If we had stayed in Melbourne, I wanted to get the Holden Commodore 6.0 V8.
Awesome car.
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Reply #238 - Sep 24th, 2010 at 11:31am
 
Andrei.Hicks wrote on Sep 24th, 2010 at 11:24am:
The FPV-GT is a great car that you have.

I have to say Australians do make excellent performance cars by Ford and Holden.

If we had stayed in Melbourne, I wanted to get the Holden Commodore 6.0 V8.
Awesome car.


yes aussie muscle cars are pretty good and compete with overseas performance cars at twice the price. and something of great importance to ownere is that spare parts are sometimes 1/10 of the price of imported performance cars. The Holden HSV is a great car too. I basically chose my Ford of the Holden because ' it looked better'. everythign else was virtually identical.
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Reply #239 - Sep 26th, 2010 at 5:18pm
 
So any one yet come up with some good ideas about what we will do with faster internet?
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