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Re: How to beat your wife?
Reply #15 - Sep 18th, 2010 at 7:06pm
 
Let us rewrite the beginning of the U.S. News article as follows: "In 1095, after suffering from the murderous invasions of Muslim conquerors who killed tens of thousands of Christians through four-and-one-half centuries of Muslim imperialist, colonialist conquest, made slaves and eunuchs of Christians for the pleasure of the caliphs, burned down or sacked the holiest churches in Christendom, robbed and killed thousands of Christians on holy pilgrimage, brutally sacked and pillaged Jerusalem, and pillaged the countryside of Israel, western Europe, under the leadership of the Pope, decided to free the people of the Holy Land from their brutal masters and reclaim Christianity's holiest places for free Christian worship."

Now, I fully realize that the previous paragraph is one-sided, that the six centuries of Muslim colonial, imperialist occupation were more complex than are shown in the previous paragraphs, and that the Christians were not always blameless, little babes. However, the previous paragraph has the benefit of not being an outright lie, which is more than I can say for the U.S. News article.

To beat the dog one more time, you may have noted that I stated above that Muslim imperialism has continued until the present. Muslim imperialism has continued without any let-up from ten years before Mohammed's death until today.

Consider the Ottoman invasion of Christian Eastern Europe in which the Ottoman Empire invaded the west and conquered and colonized Greece, all of the Balkans, Romania, Bessarabia, and Hungary, and was stopped only at the outskirts of Vienna in 1529. Consider also the Muhgal conquest of Northern India in the early 1600s. But today? Of course! In the 20th century alone:

1. Muslim Turkey has expelled approximately 1,500,000 Greeks from its empire in the east and replaced them with Turks. They have massacred approximately 2 million Armenians and replaced them with Turks in the west.

2. Muslim Turkey has invaded and occupied northern Cyprus, displacing the Greeks living there.

3. Muslim northern Sudan has conquered much of southern Sudan, literally enslaving its Christian and pagan population.

4. Indonesian imperialism has occupied all of non-Islamic western New Guinea and incorporated into Indonesia.

5. Muslim Indonesia has invaded and conquered Christian East Timor with horrible loss of life.

6. This very day, Muslim Indonesia is attempting to destroy Christianity in what used to be called the Celebes.

7. A half-dozen Arab countries have fought two to four wars (depending how you count) in an attempt to destroy Israel and occupy its territory, and is currently continuing the attempt this very day with the publicly voted consent of 55 of the world's 57 Islamic nations.

8. For no good reason, Muslim Libya has blown up western aircraft, killing many civilians.

9. Muslim Iraq, in an imperialist war of aggression, invaded and occupied Muslim Kuwait.

10. Muslim Iraq, in an imperialist act of aggression, invaded Muslim Iran with a resulting (some estimates say) death of 2 million people.

11. Muslim Albania, this very minute, is attempting to enlarge its borders at Christian Macedonia's expense.

12. Muslim Northern Nigeria has been (and is currently) an aggressor against the Christian south.

13. Muslims expelled approximately 800,000 Jews from their homelands between 1947 and 1955.

14. During Jordan's occupation of the West Bank, the kingdom undertook an unsuccessful attempt to make Jerusalem a Muslim city by forcing out approximately 10,000 Christian inhabitants.

Yes, I know that the reverse has been true. For example, Christian Serbia entered and massacred Bosnian Muslims. The western response was instructive. The west sent troops to protect the Muslims. Serbia gave up its leader to be tried for the crime by an international panel. Will Indonesia do the same with respect to Timor? Or Sudan with respect to southern Sudan?

Question: What is the title of the shortest book in the world? Answer: "The list of Muslim nations who have risked the lives of their soldiers to protect (as with the U.S. protection of Muslims in Kuwait) Christian or Jewish citizens from Muslim imperialism."

Yes, I also know that in the 20th century the west fought two of the bloodiest wars in history. But in the past more than 55 years, the west has developed methods that have led to peace among the west, and all but totally ended western imperialism and colonialism. With former colonies having a large majority in the UN, and the example of the west before it, Islam has continued its imperialist, colonial, bloody wars unabated.

One final point. Muslims base their claim to the city of Jerusalem upon the belief that Jerusalem has been a Muslim city for centuries. It may be that Muslims were never a majority in Jerusalem. We cannot prove this for all time periods, but we know that Muslims were a minority in the first several centuries after the Muslim imperialist conquest and during the century of Christian occupation during the Crusades. And we know that in the Middle Ages, Jerusalem was not considered important to the Muslims, but it was to the Christians and Jews. The Muslims made cities other than Jerusalem the capital of their Palestinian colony. Many Caliphs never even visited Jerusalem. Therefore, there was a steady stream of Jewish and Christian (but not Muslim) immigrants into Jerusalem throughout the Middle Ages,
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Re: How to beat your wife?
Reply #16 - Sep 18th, 2010 at 7:07pm
 
abu_rashid wrote on Sep 18th, 2010 at 4:29pm:
Thought you'd be busy researching the supposed changes that have occurred in Arabic over the past 1400 years??  Grin


When it comes to the canonical Arabic texts like the Koran, I'm like the vast majority of Muslims, mate - I am readin' it, I'm readin' it but it don't make sense.  Tongue
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Reply #17 - Sep 18th, 2010 at 7:51pm
 
Muslim men never really know the feeling that the love of a woman gives.  There is always the fear, lurking in the minds of the women.
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Reply #18 - Sep 18th, 2010 at 8:17pm
 
aussiefree2ride wrote on Sep 18th, 2010 at 7:51pm:
Muslim men never really know the feeling that the love of a woman gives.  There is always the fear, lurking in the minds of the women.  



What's Muslim for 'my pet'?

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Reply #19 - Sep 18th, 2010 at 8:28pm
 
Just wondering.
What if the wife is 6.2 ft tall and 110 kg heavy and the bloke is only 5 ft and 65 kg.
How he's gonna implement sharia law by beating her?.

Don't forget Arabs like big women.

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Do we need to be always politically correct.
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Reply #20 - Sep 18th, 2010 at 8:28pm
 
I`d rather cut both my arms off than have my wife fear me.  Although I don`t know how I`d cut the second one off.
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Reply #21 - Sep 18th, 2010 at 9:01pm
 
aussiefree2ride wrote on Sep 18th, 2010 at 8:28pm:
I`d rather cut both my arms off than have my wife fear me.  Although I don`t know how I`d cut the second one off.



You could ask her: "Darling, be a pet, ..."

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Reply #22 - Sep 19th, 2010 at 8:30am
 
Would you please chop my other arm off? I`ve been behaving rather Muslimish, and I`m ashamed.
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Reply #23 - Sep 19th, 2010 at 10:53am
 
Soren wrote on Sep 18th, 2010 at 8:17pm:
aussiefree2ride wrote on Sep 18th, 2010 at 7:51pm:
Muslim men never really know the feeling that the love of a woman gives.  There is always the fear, lurking in the minds of the women.  



What's Muslim for 'my pet'?




This is Muslim for 'my darling' from two different sources Soren



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Reply #24 - Sep 19th, 2010 at 1:23pm
 
Cockney Doll wrote on Sep 19th, 2010 at 10:53am:
Soren wrote on Sep 18th, 2010 at 8:17pm:
aussiefree2ride wrote on Sep 18th, 2010 at 7:51pm:
Muslim men never really know the feeling that the love of a woman gives.  There is always the fear, lurking in the minds of the women.  



What's Muslim for 'my pet'?




This is Muslim for 'my darling' from two different sources Soren



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Which dialect of the "Muslim" language is that meant to be in?  Grin

I speak Christian and Jewish fluently, but my Muslim is a bit rusty.

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Reply #25 - Sep 19th, 2010 at 1:35pm
 
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Muslim men never really know the feeling that the love of a woman gives.  There is always the fear, lurking in the minds of the women


Could you generalise just a little bit more?

My best friend is a Muslim and adores her husband. She's certainly not scared of him.
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Reply #26 - Sep 19th, 2010 at 3:52pm
 
'بلدي الحيوانات الأليفة؟
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Reply #27 - Sep 19th, 2010 at 7:09pm
 
Annie Anthrax wrote on Sep 19th, 2010 at 1:35pm:
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Muslim men never really know the feeling that the love of a woman gives.  There is always the fear, lurking in the minds of the women


Could you generalise just a little bit more?

My best friend is a Muslim and adores her husband. She's certainly not scared of him.



She`d better adore him too if she knows what`s good for her.
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Re: How to beat your wife?
Reply #28 - Sep 20th, 2010 at 8:09am
 
Highbeam,

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1. Muslim Turkey has expelled approximately 1,500,000 Greeks from its empire in the east and replaced them with Turks.


Whilst only 2 million Turks were expelled from lands the Europeans took... oh wait that's more!!! The population exchanges after WWI were a European idea, not a Turkish one. The Turks accepted it as part of losing the war, they did not instigate it at all, so this point seems to be against Christians, not Muslims.

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They have massacred approximately 2 million Armenians and replaced them with Turks in the west.


This is just pure fantasy. The Armenians who died mostly died of malnutrition through neglect, but not through massacres. And those who were fought and died, were fought because they were assisting the Russians to invade.

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2. Muslim Turkey has invaded and occupied northern Cyprus, displacing the Greeks living there.


Cyprus first became a Muslim land back in 654 C.E during the time of Caliph Muawiyyah, a companion of prophet Muhammad (pbuh). It was briefly overrun by the Crusaders at different points in time, but was re-liberated by the Ottomans, and remained Muslim until the dissolution of the Ottoman Caliphate, at which point the British gave it to the Greeks.

Secular Turkey intervened to protect the Turkish citizens (regardless of whether they were Muslim, Kemalist, Atheist, whatever).

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3. Muslim northern Sudan has conquered much of southern Sudan, literally enslaving its Christian and pagan population.


They're also fighting against Muslims, the central government is merely trying to bring rebellious provinces into line, whether they be Muslims, Christians or Animists is irrelevant.

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4. Indonesian imperialism has occupied all of non-Islamic western New Guinea and incorporated into Indonesia.

5. Muslim Indonesia has invaded and conquered Christian East Timor with horrible loss of life.

6. This very day, Muslim Indonesia is attempting to destroy Christianity in what used to be called the Celebes.


Again Indonesia is nowhere near an Islamic state. It was a Western created state that was given those lands when the European colonialists withdrew from them. The only reason East Timor is Christian is due to actual Imperialism you nitwit!

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7. A half-dozen Arab countries have fought two to four wars (depending how you count) in an attempt to destroy Israel and occupy its territory, and is currently continuing the attempt this very day with the publicly voted consent of 55 of the world's 57 Islamic nations


This one takes the cake (and the crumbs). Israel is an imperialist installation that was created in the middle of the Muslim lands!!! You gotta be kidding with this one right? A country that was 98% Arab was handed over to a foreign people to invade, occupy and colonise, and yet you claim its imperialism for that 98% majority to try and fight to get it back????

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9. Muslim Iraq, in an imperialist war of aggression, invaded and occupied Muslim Kuwait.


For a start Iraq was Ba'athist (a nationalist socialist ideology) not Muslim. Secondly this war was a farce to provide a pre-text for invading Iraq...

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10. Muslim Iraq, in an imperialist act of aggression, invaded Muslim Iran with a resulting (some estimates say) death of 2 million people.


As above. This time though Iraq was acting on behalf of the U.S to wage war against her enemy Iran.

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11. Muslim Albania, this very minute, is attempting to enlarge its borders at Christian Macedonia's expense.


Albania is certainly not an Islamic state, although it does have a sizable Muslim majority. And it's last two presidents have been Christians.... and even the "muslim" presidents it's had have all been Communists anyway, which according to Islam makes them non-Muslims.

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12. Muslim Northern Nigeria has been (and is currently) an aggressor against the Christian south.


The Christian south only exists because of European imperialism. Another one for our side.

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13. Muslims expelled approximately 800,000 Jews from their homelands between 1947 and 1955.


Seriously you're still joking about this right???

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14. During Jordan's occupation of the West Bank, the kingdom undertook an unsuccessful attempt to make Jerusalem a Muslim city by forcing out approximately 10,000 Christian inhabitants.


Jordan is a British puppet state, if it did that, which I doubt it did anyway, it did it at the behest of it's British controllers. Christian Palestinians were expelled by the Zionist invasion, not by Islam.

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But in the past more than 55 years, the west has developed methods that have led to peace among the west, and all but totally ended western imperialism and colonialism.


This is just nonsense. The West have merely developed methods by which to occupy countries without actually being physically present with armies. Pretty much all Muslim countries are Western-occupied, without a single soldier on their soil.

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Reply #29 - Sep 20th, 2010 at 12:48pm
 
abu_rashid wrote on Sep 20th, 2010 at 8:09am:
Cyprus first became a Muslim land back in 654 C.E during the time of Caliph Muawiyyah, a companion of prophet Muhammad (pbuh). It was briefly overrun by the Crusaders at different points in time, but was re-liberated by the Ottomans, and remained Muslim until the dissolution of the Ottoman Caliphate, at which point the British gave it to the Greeks.



Ah, back in 654 CE, when time began....

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This one takes the cake (and the crumbs). Israel is an imperialist installation that was created in the middle of the Muslim lands!!! You gotta be kidding with this one right? A country that was 98% Arab was handed over to a foreign people to invade, occupy and colonise, and yet you claim its imperialism for that 98% majority to try and fight to get it back????





Lemme try this logic.



This one takes the cake (and the crumbs). Northern Cyprus is a Muslim imperialist installation that was created in the middle of the Christian lands!!! You gotta be kidding with this one right? A country that was 100 % Christian Greek was taken by a foreign people to invade, occupy and colonise, and yet you claim its imperialism for Jews to fight to get Israel back????
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