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Reply #15 - Sep 18^th, 2010 at 11:11am

The book of enoch is still included in the canon of the Ethiopean Orthadox Church.

I find it interesting and maybe disturbing that such a message as follows is left out.

There is a church tradition, which says, that when John was evidently an old man in Ephesus, he had to be carried to the church in the arms of his disciples. At these meetings, he was accustomed to say no more than, "Little children, love one another!" After a time, the disciples wearied at always hearing the same words, asked, "Master, why do you always say this?" "It is the Lord's command," was his reply. "And if this alone be done, it is enough!"

If we are suppose to take the message of the bible serriously, don't you think it is an important message?

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Reply #16 - Sep 18^th, 2010 at 5:42pm

So much has been removed from all three Holy Books of Monotheism down through the ages and so much has been added in along the way as well - even for just reasons as 'translation' into a new/another language.
New Religions will spring in the New Worlds, based upon all Three to some degree. In Namerica, you have Marvel Comic Heroes and Villans upon the big screen - its their version of the Greek/Roman/Valhalla/etc Gods right there. Jewish Americans have a strong input on other Movies regarding 'story' and 'morals' etc.
The Mormons, whose Religion is the best growing in Namerica, state: "We know our Religion is a peice of crap in comparison currently ...but its American made and that is what matters for us the most!" I kinda see the Mormon point.

Australia (Oceania) will eventually have its own 'Religious' interpretation and translation to fit the 'Aussie' coloquiallism.
Our Theme might be more 'water' based like some Paradise, while Namerica might be more 'aerial' for Heaven ?? Samerica might be snake-like Pantathian?
I guess whatever shoe fits person.

LILITH has been removed, re-arranged and even added into various Holy Scriptures over time. Her persona has gone from an Evil Raven haired, pale silvery skinned vampiress to something benevolent and watcher of children, etc.

As so much, she is the 1st Woman - before Eve.
Adam failed her and she flew to heaven ...but ironically partnered Satan - so go figure?

Satan is God is Satan??? (now thats snakey enough to open anyone's eyes, eh? Wink

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Deborahmac09 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1619	Re: Lilith Reply #17 - Sep 21^st, 2010 at 9:56am Quote: Satan is God is Satan??? (now thats snakey enough to open anyone's eyes, eh? ) Closer to the truth than you think, here in Australia. In Aboriginal dreamtime snakes are not evil.
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Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: Lilith Reply #18 - Sep 21^st, 2010 at 11:07am Die Sünde (Sin, Lilith) by Franz Stuck, a German symbolist painter. Note the snake.
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It_is_the_Darkness Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4000 in a ReTardis Gender:	Re: Lilith Reply #19 - Sep 21^st, 2010 at 12:58pm Maybe look at it this way? God created Judaism and Christianity as equals. Judaism wanted superiority over Christianity. Christianity said "FU" thus God created Mohommedism to serve like Palestinians in poverty for the rich and powerful Israeli's.
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Deborahmac09 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1619	Re: Lilith Reply #20 - Sep 21^st, 2010 at 1:24pm No jasignature, man created all religions. Religion was created so man could pretend he could understand what god is.
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It_is_the_Darkness Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4000 in a ReTardis Gender:	Re: Lilith Reply #21 - Sep 21^st, 2010 at 7:50pm ...and long before 'Religion', they would climb the steps upon the Temple of Ur (Iraq) and give much thought to Sin (the Moon) and take much inspiration from. Such devotion so Sin upon Ur resulted in the creating of Writing: Sumerian Cuniform. ...so there we have it Religion was created by Sin-Urs (Sinners)
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Reply #22 - Sep 22^nd, 2010 at 10:13am

It_is_the_Darkness wrote on Sep 21^st, 2010 at 7:50pm:

...and long before 'Religion', they would climb the steps upon the Temple of Ur (Iraq) and give much thought to Sin (the Moon) and take much inspiration from.
Such devotion so Sin upon Ur resulted in the creating of Writing: Sumerian Cuniform.
...so there we have it Religion was created by Sin-Urs (Sinners) Grin

Yep, but that was still man pretending to know what god was Grin

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It_is_the_Darkness Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4000 in a ReTardis Gender:	Re: Lilith Reply #23 - Sep 22^nd, 2010 at 11:31am Yep. God was, afterall, just the moon. I can believe the moon.
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Reply #24 - Sep 23^rd, 2010 at 4:03am

research the r complex,

or commonly referred to as the reptilian brain which does

exist within the human skull.

this lower part of the brain is the exact replica of the salt water

crocodile attached also is the neo cortex and outer cortex within

exists the pineal gland (the 3rd eye chakra) and pertuatry gland

as well yes these glands,these chakras possess LIGHT portal

awareness,a stargate yes enclosed within consciousness

it is within

namaste

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It_is_the_Darkness Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4000 in a ReTardis Gender:	Re: Lilith Reply #25 - Sep 23^rd, 2010 at 9:38am Oh look Mr Light, there goes Nessie! Maybe you need a ride on my U.nited F.ederation of O.ceania or U.F.O for short for some Whitley Streiber www.COMmunion ??
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Deborahmac09 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1619	Re: Lilith Reply #26 - Sep 23^rd, 2010 at 7:14pm It_is_the_Darkness wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2010 at 11:31am: Yep. God was, afterall, just the moon. I can believe the moon. Does pretending you know what god is make you feel better The moon is only part of what god might be
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Reply #27 - Sep 24^th, 2010 at 9:34am

Deborahmac09 wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2010 at 7:14pm:

It_is_the_Darkness wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2010 at 11:31am:

Yep. God was, afterall, just the moon.
I can believe the moon. Wink

Does pretending you know what god is make you feel better Cool

The moon is only part of what god might be Grin

The moon is not part of a wooden carving or Prince Phillip. Both of these can be gods in their respective cultures.

If Jasignature worships the moon, he's entitled to his religious beliefs.

God is something personal - a personal belief. Nobody can take that away from you, and nobody should accuse you of pretending.

I take all my religions very seriously.

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Reply #28 - Sep 30^th, 2010 at 5:04pm

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God is something personal - a personal belief. Nobody can take that away from you, and nobody should accuse you of pretending.

I take all my religions very seriously.

Agreed, but I am beyond pretending I know what exactly god is.
God is the start of something and probably the end. Exactly what, I am not sure. I will not pretend otherwise. There is definitely something and I am brave enough to admit I don't know what it is. I have stood in what a lot say is his presence. There was definitely something. It took me along time to come to the realisation that I don't have to know what god is to believe that there is something. You are right, it is very personal.

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Reply #29 - Oct 1^st, 2010 at 8:09am

Deborahmac09 wrote on Sep 30^th, 2010 at 5:04pm:

Agreed, but I am beyond pretending I know what exactly god is.
God is the start of something and probably the end. Exactly what, I am not sure. I will not pretend otherwise. There is definitely something and I am brave enough to admit I don't know what it is. I have stood in what a lot say is his presence. There was definitely something. It took me along time to come to the realisation that I don't have to know what god is to believe that there is something. You are right, it is very personal.

It would probably be a good subject for a new thread for people to talk about their personal experiences with God or spirituality. l guess most of us, except the least sensitive, experience 'something' but we don't all call it God.

We have an enthusiastic moderator who could probably help by weeding out cynical over-critical posts. It's a very personal subject for many, and the last thing we want is derision. Some people might actually learn something from the process. I don't know. Maybe this board is too hostile for such a subject.

You call it God. I don't call it anything other than life and a sense of wonder within me. Either way, it's pretty awesome.

Which of us is right? We both are.

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