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Reply #30 - Sep 16^th, 2010 at 8:33pm

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I reckon the Labor Federal Government lost many seats due to bearing the brunt of the Labor state governments.
I feel the liberals wouldn't have done as well IF a state election was held before the federal, for the people to vent their spleen. So with this in mind plus the other issues that labor had against them. I think they still did pretty well .

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Reply #31 - Sep 16^th, 2010 at 8:35pm

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I reckon the Labor Federal Government lost many seats due to bearing the brunt of the Labor state governments.
I feel the liberals wouldn't have done as well IF a state election was held before the federal, for the people to vent their spleen. So with this in mind plus the other issues that labor had against them. I think they still did pretty well .

Don't you think it might have had something to do with the fact they were hopelessly incompetent in just about everything they did?

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longweekend58 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 45675 Gender:	Re: HOW MANY SEATS DID 1ST TERM GOVT LOOSE Reply #32 - Sep 16^th, 2010 at 8:41pm adelcrow wrote on Sep 16^th, 2010 at 5:34pm: The Libs went from 55 down to 44 seats and if it wasn't for their coalition partners would have been even further behind Labors 71 seats and the moron returns who lacks the inability to count or use the brains that a flea can lay claim to.
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Reply #33 - Sep 16^th, 2010 at 8:42pm

qikvtec wrote on Sep 16^th, 2010 at 7:37pm:

adelcrow wrote on Sep 16^th, 2010 at 6:20pm:

There is no doubt that both the Labor and Liberal Parties federally and on all state levels are appalling, pathetic, incompetent and on the nose with the thinking Aussie voters.
The Australian people are weeding them out and sooner rather than later all our parliaments will be full of independents, Greens and the conservative minor parties that are propping up the Liberals.
Lets show Labor and the Liberals that we are sick of their lies and unprofessional behaviour!

How about we create a parliament. 50 CEO's of the ASX 50, 50 CEO's or various charity organisations, 50 prominent scientists/professionals across a variety of fields. Hold all of them personally accountable for their departments failures, and pass that accountability all the way down the line; threat of bankruptcy and mandatory 10year jail term.

I can't help but think we wouldn't make a much more efficient government, only as big as it needed to be, primarily focussed on delivering the wishes of the population; certainly a much better alternative to the current lesser of two evils style system we have now.

Yeah, that'd work.

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qikvtec Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1846 Queensland	Re: HOW MANY SEATS DID 1ST TERM GOVT LOOSE Reply #34 - Sep 16^th, 2010 at 8:45pm Which part exactly would you think wouldn't work?
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longweekend58 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 45675 Gender:	Re: HOW MANY SEATS DID 1ST TERM GOVT LOOSE Reply #35 - Sep 16^th, 2010 at 8:47pm John S wrote on Sep 16^th, 2010 at 12:44pm: bwood1946 wrote on Sep 16^th, 2010 at 12:26pm: HOW MANY 16 LOL ][/size] How many did howard lose in his first term 20 LOL Loser So tell us something new easy to lose lots of seats when you had such a massive margin in the first place - 94 vs 49 seats!
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longweekend58 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 45675 Gender:	Re: HOW MANY SEATS DID 1ST TERM GOVT LOOSE Reply #36 - Sep 16^th, 2010 at 8:49pm And just a note for those who value accuracy.. coalition seats in 1996: 94 coalition seats in 1998: 80 does that sound like 20 to you?? 14 bozos! this is why we dont like labor supporters. they cant even COUNT!
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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 39133 Gender:	Re: HOW MANY SEATS DID 1ST TERM GOVT LOOSE Reply #37 - Sep 16^th, 2010 at 8:51pm qikvtec wrote on Sep 16^th, 2010 at 8:45pm: Which part exactly would you think wouldn't work? I said it would work. Do you doubt yourself, now? Please explain why it would not work?
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Reply #38 - Sep 16^th, 2010 at 8:53pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Sep 16^th, 2010 at 1:18pm:

Ok well there are any number of things wrong in this one post so its difficult to know where to begin.

1) The United States has not experienced 'Right wing fundamentalism' at any time in the recent past.

2) The global crisis was brought about by a lack of regulation within the sub-prime lending market and the regulation of multi-facet investment vehicles around the world. The weakening of these controls occurred under the reign of William Jefferson Clinton.

3) A Government's focus is not totally on the bottom line but it has to be considered. The economy is above all the most important aspect of a country. If something doesn't have good economic grounds to proceed then in my mind it should not proceed. A Government should not incur debt and spend it like a barroom drunk.
This occurred with their stimulus payments to people earning under $100k. They spent MY tax money on other people and I got nothing. Wrong.
In any man's book, a Government that loses a majority in one term, axes its PM in less than one term and struggles to govern with a cobbled together back bench of independents - that is and will always be classed a poor Government.

The encomy is not the most important thing in any country. Society is more important. If you didn't have people working and paying tax and spending money. The encomy would be up the creek without a paddle.

Poor andrei he miss out on the stimulus he is only thinking of himself again. Adrei if you earn that much money as you say why should you get the stimulus money. You wouldn't of spent it you would of put it in the bank. It was giving to people that the goverment knew would spent it not bank it.

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Reply #39 - Sep 16^th, 2010 at 9:12pm

Aussie wrote on Sep 16^th, 2010 at 8:51pm:

qikvtec wrote on Sep 16^th, 2010 at 8:45pm:

Which part exactly would you think wouldn't work?

I said it would work. Do you doubt yourself, now? Please explain why it would not work?

Cheesy

I took this Cheesy

and deduced you were being sarcastic, if that wasn't the case I apologise.

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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 39133 Gender:	Re: HOW MANY SEATS DID 1ST TERM GOVT LOOSE Reply #40 - Sep 16^th, 2010 at 9:27pm No, you go it right. I was being sarcastic. But, I would like you to explain how it would work, especially how it could happen under our current Constitution. I am all eyes.
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Reply #41 - Sep 16^th, 2010 at 9:42pm

Aussie wrote on Sep 16^th, 2010 at 9:27pm:

No, you go it right. I was being sarcastic. But, I would like you to explain how it would work, especially how it could happen under our current Constitution.

I am all eyes.

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It would take an amendment to the current constitution no doubt about it. What you would have though is 1/3 of the parliament who would likely have the social interests of the population at heart,, 1/3 of the parliament who are specialists in the various scientific pursuits who can set environment and infrastructure policy, and then the other 1/3 could work out how to pay for it all.

I think the outcome would be robust policy debate resulting in workable policies that are costed and well managed to implementation.

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Reply #42 - Sep 16^th, 2010 at 9:47pm

qikvtec wrote on Sep 16^th, 2010 at 9:42pm:

Aussie wrote on Sep 16^th, 2010 at 9:27pm:

No, you go it right. I was being sarcastic. But, I would like you to explain how it would work, especially how it could happen under our current Constitution.

I am all eyes.

Wink

It would take an amendment to the current constitution no doubt about it. What you would have those is 1/3 of the parliament who would likely have the social interests of the population at heart,, 1/3 of the parliament who are specialists in the various scientific pursuits who can set environment and infrastructure policy, and then the other 1/3 could work out how to pay for it all.

I think the outcome would be robust policy debate resulting in workable policies that are costed and well managed to implementation.

Good luck with that. Now, get your feet back on terra firma.

Cheers.

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Reply #43 - Sep 16^th, 2010 at 9:53pm

Aussie wrote on Sep 16^th, 2010 at 9:47pm:

qikvtec wrote on Sep 16^th, 2010 at 9:42pm:

Aussie wrote on Sep 16^th, 2010 at 9:27pm:

No, you go it right. I was being sarcastic. But, I would like you to explain how it would work, especially how it could happen under our current Constitution.

I am all eyes.

Wink

It would take an amendment to the current constitution no doubt about it. What you would have those is 1/3 of the parliament who would likely have the social interests of the population at heart,, 1/3 of the parliament who are specialists in the various scientific pursuits who can set environment and infrastructure policy, and then the other 1/3 could work out how to pay for it all.

I think the outcome would be robust policy debate resulting in workable policies that are costed and well managed to implementation.

Good luck with that. Now, get your feet back on terra firma.

Cheers.

I didn't say it was going to happen.
Wink

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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 39133 Gender:	Re: HOW MANY SEATS DID 1ST TERM GOVT LOOSE Reply #44 - Sep 16^th, 2010 at 10:07pm Quote: I didn't say it was going to happen. No, you did not. But, who knows what the future holds? Cheers!
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