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Why isn't the media talking about manufacturing ?
Sep 12^th, 2010 at 11:21am

Just like Bob Katter reminded us about the lack of manufacturing in this country, why isn't the talk of the town about the future of manufacturing here ?

What future do we have if we don't add value to things and try and export them ? Do we honestly think we can survive on over priced service industries and lawyer word smiths ?

I'm not talking about your nickel and dime stuff made in Chinese sweatshops. I'm talking about high value added and high tech goods of which we are a net importer. Renewable energy technology comes to mind but where is it ?

I listened to the insiders on the ABC this morning and all they could waffle on about is the same old drab and dreary old politicians being recycled into different portfolios. What garbage media this is !!

Why we funneling billions of dollars into BER so that we can supposedly educate our children better ? Educate them to do what Ms Gillard and Mr Abort ? What on earth are we doing about it ?

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aussiefree2ride Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3538	Re: Why isn't the media talking about manufacturing ? Reply #1 - Sep 12^th, 2010 at 1:43pm Nickel & dime? That sounds so Murikan, it makes my skin crawl.
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Re: Why isn't the media talking about manufacturing ?
Reply #2 - Sep 12^th, 2010 at 1:49pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Sep 12^th, 2010 at 11:21am:

Just like Bob Katter reminded us about the lack of manufacturing in this country, why isn't the talk of the town about the future of manufacturing here ?

What future do we have if we don't add value to things and try and export them ? Do we honestly think we can survive on over priced service industries and lawyer word smiths ?

I'm not talking about your nickel and dime stuff made in Chinese sweatshops. I'm talking about high value added and high tech goods of which we are a net importer. Renewable energy technology comes to mind but where is it ?

I listened to the insiders on the ABC this morning and all they could waffle on about is the same old drab and dreary old politicians being recycled into different portfolios. What garbage media this is !!

Why we funneling billions of dollars into BER so that we can supposedly educate our children better ? Educate them to do what Ms Gillard and Mr Abort ? What on earth are we doing about it ?

New Definition of Manufacturing

Dig it up, ship it out!

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Re: Why isn't the media talking about manufacturing ?
Reply #3 - Sep 12^th, 2010 at 1:52pm

perceptions_now wrote on Sep 12^th, 2010 at 1:49pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Sep 12^th, 2010 at 11:21am:

Just like Bob Katter reminded us about the lack of manufacturing in this country, why isn't the talk of the town about the future of manufacturing here ?

What future do we have if we don't add value to things and try and export them ? Do we honestly think we can survive on over priced service industries and lawyer word smiths ?

I'm not talking about your nickel and dime stuff made in Chinese sweatshops. I'm talking about high value added and high tech goods of which we are a net importer. Renewable energy technology comes to mind but where is it ?

I listened to the insiders on the ABC this morning and all they could waffle on about is the same old drab and dreary old politicians being recycled into different portfolios. What garbage media this is !!

Why we funneling billions of dollars into BER so that we can supposedly educate our children better ? Educate them to do what Ms Gillard and Mr Abort ? What on earth are we doing about it ?

New Definition of Manufacturing

Dig it up, ship it out!

Would you like to be an employer in this country?
Go ahead, you can do it, let us see you do it?

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Ex Dame Pansi Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 24168	Re: Why isn't the media talking about manufacturing ? Reply #4 - Sep 12^th, 2010 at 2:00pm <<New Definition of Manufacturing Dig it up, ship it out!>> OR We manufacture houses and sell them to each other at increasingly higher prices.
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Deborahmac09 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1619	Re: Why isn't the media talking about manufacturing ? Reply #5 - Sep 12^th, 2010 at 2:04pm I think that the media are responsible for enough manufacturing of their own.
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Ex Dame Pansi Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 24168	Re: Why isn't the media talking about manufacturing ? Reply #6 - Sep 12^th, 2010 at 2:24pm Deborahmac09 wrote on Sep 12^th, 2010 at 2:04pm: I think that the media are responsible for enough manufacturing of their own. LOL deborah
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Re: Why isn't the media talking about manufacturing ?
Reply #7 - Sep 12^th, 2010 at 2:54pm

aussiefree2ride wrote on Sep 12^th, 2010 at 1:52pm:

perceptions_now wrote on Sep 12^th, 2010 at 1:49pm:

Sir lastnail wrote on Sep 12^th, 2010 at 11:21am:

Just like Bob Katter reminded us about the lack of manufacturing in this country, why isn't the talk of the town about the future of manufacturing here ?

What future do we have if we don't add value to things and try and export them ? Do we honestly think we can survive on over priced service industries and lawyer word smiths ?

I'm not talking about your nickel and dime stuff made in Chinese sweatshops. I'm talking about high value added and high tech goods of which we are a net importer. Renewable energy technology comes to mind but where is it ?

I listened to the insiders on the ABC this morning and all they could waffle on about is the same old drab and dreary old politicians being recycled into different portfolios. What garbage media this is !!

Why we funneling billions of dollars into BER so that we can supposedly educate our children better ? Educate them to do what Ms Gillard and Mr Abort ? What on earth are we doing about it ?

New Definition of Manufacturing

Dig it up, ship it out!

Would you like to be an employer in this country?
Go ahead, you can do it, let us see you do it?

Thanks for the invitation, Aussie!

However, I retired several years ago, for some very good reasons and I have no intention of revisiting that decision!

That said, regrettably, there will be many here in OZ and overseas, who will not have as much choice.

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Reply #8 - Sep 12^th, 2010 at 3:17pm

The major component of manufacturing is labor costs. our labor rates are severl times that of our asian neighbours and 10-20 times that of china. That pretty much precludes much of the manufacturing base. not all, but a lot of it. And you cant just huff and puff and complain and pretend it isnt true. The only viable alternative is to halve the minimum wage. you up fot that?

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Reply #9 - Sep 12^th, 2010 at 3:39pm

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 12^th, 2010 at 3:17pm:

The major component of manufacturing is labor costs. our labor rates are severl times that of our asian neighbours and 10-20 times that of china. That pretty much precludes much of the manufacturing base. not all, but a lot of it. And you cant just huff and puff and complain and pretend it isnt true. The only viable alternative is to halve the minimum wage. you up fot that?

Try looking forward a few years LW!

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Reply #10 - Sep 12^th, 2010 at 3:58pm

perceptions_now wrote on Sep 12^th, 2010 at 3:39pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 12^th, 2010 at 3:17pm:

The major component of manufacturing is labor costs. our labor rates are severl times that of our asian neighbours and 10-20 times that of china. That pretty much precludes much of the manufacturing base. not all, but a lot of it. And you cant just huff and puff and complain and pretend it isnt true. The only viable alternative is to halve the minimum wage. you up fot that?

Try looking forward a few years LW!

What was that supposed to mean? do you expect anything to change in the wage disparity arena?

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Reply #11 - Sep 12^th, 2010 at 4:02pm

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Sep 12^th, 2010 at 2:00pm:

<<New Definition of Manufacturing
Dig it up, ship it out!>>

OR

We manufacture houses and sell them to each other at increasingly higher prices.

with foreign money borrowed from a bank.

They call it wealth creation when the country incurs more national debt with nothing to show for it Sad

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Reply #12 - Sep 12^th, 2010 at 4:04pm

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 12^th, 2010 at 3:17pm:

The major component of manufacturing is labor costs. our labor rates are severl times that of our asian neighbours and 10-20 times that of china. That pretty much precludes much of the manufacturing base. not all, but a lot of it. And you cant just huff and puff and complain and pretend it isnt true. The only viable alternative is to halve the minimum wage. you up fot that?

Tell that to Intel, AMD and Microsoft. The labor used is cheap but most of the profit is obtained from the value of their intellectual property. That's why I said high value added goods not nickel and dime rubbish.

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Sir lastnail Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 30234 Gender:	Re: Why isn't the media talking about manufacturing ? Reply #13 - Sep 12^th, 2010 at 4:06pm Deborahmac09 wrote on Sep 12^th, 2010 at 2:04pm: I think that the media are responsible for enough manufacturing of their own. Yes they are good at manufacturing excuses not to do anything as well as brown nosing useless politicians.
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Reply #14 - Sep 12^th, 2010 at 4:06pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Sep 12^th, 2010 at 4:04pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 12^th, 2010 at 3:17pm:

The major component of manufacturing is labor costs. our labor rates are severl times that of our asian neighbours and 10-20 times that of china. That pretty much precludes much of the manufacturing base. not all, but a lot of it. And you cant just huff and puff and complain and pretend it isnt true. The only viable alternative is to halve the minimum wage. you up fot that?

Tell that to Intel, AMD and Microsoft. The labor used is cheap but most of the profit is obtained from the value of their intellectual property. That's why I said high value added goods not nickel and dime rubbish.

Take a look inside your computer and see where these chips are made... ASIA.

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