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Re: What I stand for.
Reply #105 - Sep 12^th, 2010 at 10:59am

# wrote on Sep 12^th, 2010 at 9:30am:

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 12^th, 2010 at 8:42am:

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It was Carter that actually planted the seeds that eventually grew into the GFC ...

Carter started the deregulation. Bush took it to an extreme, which facilitated the excesses that led to the GFC.

Keating began the Telstra sell-out, which Howard took to an extreme. That facilitated abuses which, in part, justifies the NBN (it will break Telstra's monopoly on the "last mile" to consumers' homes). We have Howard's extremism to thank for the NBN. Funny, that.

What is it, with the right-wing and extremes?

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but it wwas however, 200 years of american economic policy that created (and maintained) the environment that nurtured such disasters. and that environment - unrestrained capitalism - remains unchanged and ready to grow another economic disaster some time in the future.

By some reports, the very near future. Sad

There would be roughly an equal number of left and right extremists throughout our checkered history.

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# Gold Member Offline A fool is certain: an ignorant fool, absolutely so Posts: 2603	Re: What I stand for. Reply #106 - Sep 12^th, 2010 at 2:42pm qikvtec wrote on Sep 12^th, 2010 at 10:59am: ... There would be roughly an equal number of left and right extremists throughout our checkered history. Did either extreme work?
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Lisa Jones Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 39047 Sydney Gender:	Re: What I stand for. Reply #107 - Sep 12^th, 2010 at 2:45pm Just for posst terry tea This is not a pisstake of dyslexics (nor in fact even close to an example of dyslexic script - we all know dyslexia's what those silly bastards have got who get the letters right, just not the odrer, ahhh, dorer, rredo.... aww yers know what I mean yuck fa). - Helian OGM!!! OTO FNUNY LOL
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Re: What I stand for.
Reply #108 - Sep 12^th, 2010 at 2:59pm

# wrote on Sep 12^th, 2010 at 2:42pm:

qikvtec wrote on Sep 12^th, 2010 at 10:59am:

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There would be roughly an equal number of left and right extremists throughout our checkered history.

Did either extreme work?

Extremsists almost always fail and are bad or even evil. But your definition of 'extreme' is ridiculous. you call anyone 'extreme' if their attitude is significantly different to yours. That is a tad arrogant.

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Lisa Jones Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 39047 Sydney Gender:	Re: What I stand for. Reply #109 - Sep 12^th, 2010 at 3:02pm Extremsists eh lol ???
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James Bluntus Senior Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 456 Gender:	Re: What I stand for. Reply #110 - Sep 13^th, 2010 at 10:25am argh. god it's hard to get through to the YL president to get my ideas across. Labor Left all the way.
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It_is_the_Darkness Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 4000 in a ReTardis Gender:	Re: What I stand for. Reply #111 - Sep 13^th, 2010 at 10:45am Daily Telegraph spells Gaol as JAIL. Americans
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NorthOfNorth Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 17258 Gender:	Re: What I stand for. Reply #112 - Sep 13^th, 2010 at 10:55am It_is_the_Darkness wrote on Sep 13^th, 2010 at 10:45am: Daily Telegraph spells Gaol as JAIL. Americans The French.... Apparently. (Its a spelling anomaly that survived the introduction of the language de la frog into the British Isles)
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James Bluntus Senior Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 456 Gender:	Re: What I stand for. Reply #113 - Sep 13^th, 2010 at 12:41pm um, I don't think I stand for the DT spelling Gaol as Jail. That is completly off topic. Get back to the topic please.
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Re: What I stand for.
Reply #114 - Sep 13^th, 2010 at 1:31pm

# wrote on Sep 12^th, 2010 at 2:42pm:

qikvtec wrote on Sep 12^th, 2010 at 10:59am:

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There would be roughly an equal number of left and right extremists throughout our checkered history.

Did either extreme work?

Nope, I was agreeing with your point of view David, something must have been lost in the translation.

The solution to extremists is pretty extreme, but they should be wiped from the face of the earth, no place for them in a civilised society.

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One trouble with political jokes is that they often get elected.

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Re: What I stand for.
Reply #115 - Sep 13^th, 2010 at 2:30pm

qikvtec wrote on Sep 13^th, 2010 at 1:31pm:

# wrote on Sep 12^th, 2010 at 2:42pm:

qikvtec wrote on Sep 12^th, 2010 at 10:59am:

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There would be roughly an equal number of left and right extremists throughout our checkered history.

Did either extreme work?

Nope, I was agreeing with your point of view David, something must have been lost in the translation.

The solution to extremists is pretty extreme, but they should be wiped from the face of the earth, no place for them in a civilised society.

Without them, we'd be ignorant of the dangers.

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# Gold Member Offline A fool is certain: an ignorant fool, absolutely so Posts: 2603	Re: What I stand for. Reply #116 - Sep 13^th, 2010 at 2:55pm James Bluntus wrote on Sep 13^th, 2010 at 12:41pm: um, I don't think I stand for the DT spelling Gaol as Jail. That is completly off topic. Get back to the topic please. James, they're what's known as Trolls. Trolls crave attention. Responding in any way gives them what they want. They're best ignored.
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qikvtec Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1846 Queensland	Re: What I stand for. Reply #117 - Sep 13^th, 2010 at 2:59pm James Bluntus wrote on Sep 13^th, 2010 at 10:25am: argh. god it's hard to get through to the YL president to get my ideas across. Labor Left all the way. You'd better get used to insignificance young padawan.
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Re: What I stand for.
Reply #118 - Sep 13^th, 2010 at 3:19pm

James Bluntus wrote on Sep 13^th, 2010 at 10:25am:

argh. god it's hard to get through to the YL president to get my ideas across. Labor Left all the way.

People in positions of power (and president of anything is a position of power, if only minor) tend to be confident. That leads them to ignore underlings, particularly new ones.

To succeed, you'll need to act confident. The problem is, unless you really want to be a total prat, you need to avoid actually being confident. Confidence and certainty go hand in hand. The problem has been addressed many times:
ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge
--Charles Darwin (introduction to 'The Descent of Man' 1871)

The more that wise people learn
The more they come to appreciate
How much they don't know.
--Attributed to Confucius, but probably apocryphal (like most sayings attributed thus)

A fool is certain. An ignorant fool, absolutely so.
-- Source lost

And my favourite, the Dunning–Kruger effect:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect

Remember that most people in power are afflicted. Learn how to influence them. You're unlikely to defeat them, but you can outlast them. Or manipulate them but be careful not to lose yourself in the process.

BTW qikvtec is a Troll. Best ignored.

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Re: What I stand for.
Reply #119 - Sep 13^th, 2010 at 3:38pm

# wrote on Sep 13^th, 2010 at 3:19pm:

James Bluntus wrote on Sep 13^th, 2010 at 10:25am:

argh. god it's hard to get through to the YL president to get my ideas across. Labor Left all the way.

People in positions of power (and president of anything is a position of power, if only minor) tend to be confident. That leads them to ignore underlings, particularly new ones.

To succeed, you'll need to act confident. The problem is, unless you really want to be a total prat, you need to avoid actually being confident. Confidence and certainty go hand in hand. The problem has been addressed many times:
ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge
--Charles Darwin (introduction to 'The Descent of Man' 1871)

The more that wise people learn
The more they come to appreciate
How much they don't know.
--Attributed to Confucius, but probably apocryphal (like most sayings attributed thus)

A fool is certain. An ignorant fool, absolutely so.
-- Source lost

And my favourite, the Dunning–Kruger effect:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect

Remember that most people in power are afflicted. Learn how to influence them. You're unlikely to defeat them, but you can outlast them.

BTW qikvtec is a Troll. Best ignored.

Wanker.

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Politicians and Nappies need to be changed often and for the same reason.

One trouble with political jokes is that they often get elected.

Alan Joyce for PM

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