while you still can - you're still 132 votes ahead! (in an incomplete count which won't be known for a while and which according to Wayne Swan this morning will prob go Labor)

The two party preferred count is 88.34% complete.
House of Representatives National Two Party Preferred Result

                                     Votes      Percentage %      Swing %
Australian Labor Party      5,859,538      50.00             -2.70
Liberal/National Coalition      5,859,670      50.00             +2.70

AEC Tally Room:
http://vtr.aec.gov.au/

2PP reality:
http://blogs.abc.net.au/antonygreen/2010/08/who-won-the-national-2-party-preferr...

Julia is a stateswoman wrote on Sep 8^th, 2010 at 5:55pm:


firstly, we are still AHEAD which whiel even ultra-close still means FIRST,

secondly we have the indisputable 500,000 lead on primary votes and

thirdly, we won more seats.

so we won on 3 out of 3 measures.

"We"?
I think you are taking the election far to personally longwood 
The only winners of this election are the Independents, the Greens, the Australian people and democracy 

adelcrow wrote on Sep 8^th, 2010 at 6:12pm:


I don't quite agree but I get your point. I think a lot of people voted for both major parties enthusiastically. I did for Labor (as a 2nd pref). I am enjoying the hung parliament so far.

adelcrow wrote on Sep 8^th, 2010 at 6:37pm:


Please dont call democracy a winner unless you are reading from the Josef Stalin one-party version of democracy. When a party gets more votes and more seats and isnt in govt then it is many things, but certainly not a win for representative democracy. And it is hard to see how the australian people win by having their decision overruled by 2 people. IN practice probably little will change but from now on, every election wil be viewed with more cynicism and less relevance since choosing a govt is now no longer soley the peoples choice.

Abbott didn't get in , Abbott couldn't be honest enough when he had to negotiate so fudged some figures .. Abbott and his parties still don't have the decency to acknowledge that the Independents gave the nod to who they thought would be a better government overall yet he still whines about seats , 2PP system yet this is the system we have had for so many years...

Suck it up Princess

longweekend58 wrote on Sep 8^th, 2010 at 8:15pm:


It was Tony's lost $11 billion .. Julia found it but due ti GST , BAS and the GFC is was slightly reduced

secondly we have the indisputable 500,000 lead
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500,000 OR 700,000- ONLY provided you include the Nats but discount the Greens

From News Ltd, bitterly disappointed after its election loss:

' 1. 700,000 More Votes (provided you include the Nats but discount the Greens):

The overwhelming feeling in the Abbott office yesterday, where MPs and staff watched the press conferences that announced their fate, was disappointment after winning more seats and 700,000 more primary votes than Labor.
By my calculations from the current results (with 12% still to be counted), 5,349,531 people voted for the Liberals and the Nationals and the Liberal/Nationals. In contrast, 6,140,963 people voted for Labor and the Greens.
The Liberals appear to want to have it both ways: they’ll claim that they have more votes than Labor by including the Nationals, but – despite pretending that the ALP and Greens are in some kind of “coalition” – discount the Greens to make the 700,000 vote claim. Which is absurd, because the 1.4 million of us who voted Greens were very clear about not wanting Abbott in government.
If the Libs want to quote a figure that somewhat justifies their claim, it should be the 0.02% edge they currently have (less than two thousand votes in 12 million) on two-party preferred. But there’s a lot of counting to go.*
The 700,000 figure is so meaningless and stupid as to make me wince whenever they use it. And use it they are.'