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Re: Is he in America
Reply #45 - Sep 9^th, 2010 at 10:36am

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I'd like to think Mozza has kept it up to give him a chance (and you and Vegi) to apologize.
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well I think it shows poor form.

More so from the mods here , why is that because when we came onto this forum it was mentioned that itwasnt to be like yahoo...

Honestly I can't believe I even had to even apologize to andrei- look back at what I said

" I believe andrei has a big picture of america on his wall"

FFS

Who has shown the poorest form though Vegi?

Is it not the idiot who started the thread and then kept it going when told he was wrong?
Who started all this by picking up on a comment said to smithy and searching webjet (with the wrong starting city)

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Re: Is he in America
Reply #47 - Sep 10^th, 2010 at 11:07am

mozzaok wrote on Sep 7^th, 2010 at 9:27pm:

Andrei asked that a moderator check where his IP address is, and it is exactly where he says it is.

So all of you who have been making false accusations about him should apologise, if you care about behaving decently, and if you are capable of admitting you made a mistake.

I have been very critical of Andrei's views on certain subjects, but I do not condone accusing people of lying, without very, very good reason, and in this case you have no reason, as his IP address and service provider are exactly where he says they are.

I'm told it's possible to falsify IP header data. You'd probably know better than I.

For what it's worth, posts under the handle Andrei.Hicks indicate that the personality behind them is a truly nasty piece of work. I disagree with the opinions expressed and disbelieve the assertions made. The posts are often so far out on the lunatic fringe that I wonder if they're trolls.

That poster has worked hard at making himself a pariah. The wisdom of damning the consequences of success is questionable. I've seen him complain about failing in an attempt to dole-bludge. I've seen reports of him bragging about evading Australian taxes.

What I'd like to see is some way of filtering the forum, so I never see posts by some members. Something similar to the Ignorelist in PM Preferences. Though I regret having to say it, some posts are not worth the time it takes to scroll past them. That would also make the forum troll-unfriendly: once people figure out what they are, they'd be starved of the attention they crave.

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Reply #48 - Sep 10^th, 2010 at 11:22am

# wrote on Sep 10^th, 2010 at 11:07am:

mozzaok wrote on Sep 7^th, 2010 at 9:27pm:

Andrei asked that a moderator check where his IP address is, and it is exactly where he says it is.

So all of you who have been making false accusations about him should apologise, if you care about behaving decently, and if you are capable of admitting you made a mistake.

I have been very critical of Andrei's views on certain subjects, but I do not condone accusing people of lying, without very, very good reason, and in this case you have no reason, as his IP address and service provider are exactly where he says they are.

I'm told it's possible to falsify IP header data. You'd probably know better than I.

For what it's worth, posts under the handle Andrei.Hicks indicate that the personality behind them is a truly nasty piece of work. I disagree with the opinions expressed and disbelieve the assertions made. The posts are often so far out on the lunatic fringe that I wonder if they're trolls.

That poster has worked hard at making himself a pariah. The wisdom of damning the consequences of success is questionable. I've seen him complain about failing in an attempt to dole-bludge. I've seen reports of him bragging about evading Australian taxes.

What I'd like to see is some way of filtering the forum, so I never see posts by some members. Something similar to the Ignorelist in PM Preferences. Though I regret having to say it, some posts are not worth the time it takes to scroll past them. That would also make the forum troll-unfriendly: once people figure out what they are, they'd be starved of the attention they crave.

He/she is a troll David, a very good one too. The job of a troll is to go from post to post angering people with outlandish controversial views, simply to rile them. For instance, if someone says they're unemployed, he will brag about his jet-setting lifestyle.

There are other known trolls that have come over from Yahoo message boards, lisa, mellie and bahamian ( who has a list of multi's). They come into a debate just to overtake and eventually ruin it.

Your idea is a good one, and I have seen other forums with an ignore button, so maybe it can be done.

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andrei said: Great isn't it? Seeing boatloads of what is nothing more than human garbage turn up.....

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Reply #49 - Sep 10^th, 2010 at 11:58am

Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Sep 10^th, 2010 at 11:22am:

# wrote on Sep 10^th, 2010 at 11:07am:

mozzaok wrote on Sep 7^th, 2010 at 9:27pm:

Andrei asked that a moderator check where his IP address is, and it is exactly where he says it is.

So all of you who have been making false accusations about him should apologise, if you care about behaving decently, and if you are capable of admitting you made a mistake.

I have been very critical of Andrei's views on certain subjects, but I do not condone accusing people of lying, without very, very good reason, and in this case you have no reason, as his IP address and service provider are exactly where he says they are.

I'm told it's possible to falsify IP header data. You'd probably know better than I.

For what it's worth, posts under the handle Andrei.Hicks indicate that the personality behind them is a truly nasty piece of work. I disagree with the opinions expressed and disbelieve the assertions made. The posts are often so far out on the lunatic fringe that I wonder if they're trolls.

That poster has worked hard at making himself a pariah. The wisdom of damning the consequences of success is questionable. I've seen him complain about failing in an attempt to dole-bludge. I've seen reports of him bragging about evading Australian taxes.

What I'd like to see is some way of filtering the forum, so I never see posts by some members. Something similar to the Ignorelist in PM Preferences. Though I regret having to say it, some posts are not worth the time it takes to scroll past them. That would also make the forum troll-unfriendly: once people figure out what they are, they'd be starved of the attention they crave.

He/she is a troll David, a very good one too. The job of a troll is to go from post to post angering people with outlandish controversial views, simply to rile them. For instance, if someone says they're unemployed, he will brag about his jet-setting lifestyle.

There are other known trolls that have come over from Yahoo message boards, lisa, mellie and bahamian ( who has a list of multi's). They come into a debate just to overtake and eventually ruin it.

Your idea is a good one, and I have seen other forums with an ignore button, so maybe it can be done.

. It reads like you guys are promoting censorship

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Re: Is he in America
Reply #51 - Sep 10^th, 2010 at 12:03pm

bwood1946 wrote on Sep 10^th, 2010 at 11:58am:

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. It reads like you guys are promoting censorship

Censorship implies manipulating the information available to others. I just want some control over what I have to endure.

Similar to the difference between Labor's policy of filtering the Internet at the ISP level, against the Howard government's provision of free filters for home use under the NetAlert program. One is imposed from above, the other is controlled by the individual.

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Reply #52 - Sep 10^th, 2010 at 12:04pm

Exactly right Woody, if you cant take the heat get out of the kitchen.
If you want everyone to agree with you start a yahoo group for like minds, you can sit there all day & blow smoke up each others ass.
However if you wish to voice your opinions & have them challenged this site and others are the go.
Yes there are trolls who like to stir & get reactions but so what, they are easy to pick either ignore them or stir back.
Its not hard to get the unhinged frothing at the keyboard & frankly it's fun Cheesy

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Reply #53 - Sep 10^th, 2010 at 12:12pm

I just think some people need to be censored for the sake of everyone else. By having the ignore option, the decision is up to the individual user. Selective censorship.

A good working example of a forum is the finance section of Yahoo message boards, just sensible debate and opinions being thrown forth, lots of disagreements, without the shenanigans.

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Reply #54 - Sep 10^th, 2010 at 12:15pm

Dsmithy70 wrote on Sep 10^th, 2010 at 12:04pm:

Exactly right Woody, if you cant take the heat get out of the kitchen.
If you want everyone to agree with you start a yahoo group for like minds, you can sit there all day & blow smoke up each others ass.
However if you wish to voice your opinions & have them challenged this site and others are the go.
Yes there are trolls who like to stir & get reactions but so what, they are easy to pick either ignore them or stir back.
Its not hard to get the unhinged frothing at the keyboard & frankly it's fun Cheesy

There is SOME unhinge ones on here Smiddy

But it can be good fun on a very wet day like we have had for a month

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adelcrow Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20133 everywhere Gender:	Re: Is he in America Reply #55 - Sep 10^th, 2010 at 12:36pm An ignore button would give an individual a bit of breathing space from the one or two trolls and it would take some of the pressure off the moderators. The only people who would lose out are the few people who get off by annoying others
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# Gold Member Offline A fool is certain: an ignorant fool, absolutely so Posts: 2603	Re: Is he in America Reply #56 - Sep 10^th, 2010 at 2:04pm bwood1946 wrote on Sep 10^th, 2010 at 12:15pm: Dsmithy70 wrote on Sep 10^th, 2010 at 12:04pm: ... Its not hard to get the unhinged frothing at the keyboard & frankly it's fun ... But it can be good fun on a very wet day like we have had for a month ... Fun for you perhaps, but not for the grown-ups.
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Reply #57 - Sep 10^th, 2010 at 2:11pm

# wrote on Sep 10^th, 2010 at 2:04pm:

bwood1946 wrote on Sep 10^th, 2010 at 12:15pm:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Sep 10^th, 2010 at 12:04pm:

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Its not hard to get the unhinged frothing at the keyboard & frankly it's fun Cheesy

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But it can be good fun on a very wet day like we have had for a month
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Fun for you perhaps, but not for the grown-ups.

Well, you must be rolling on the floor laughing your head off

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Reply #58 - Sep 10^th, 2010 at 2:21pm

adelcrow wrote on Sep 10^th, 2010 at 12:36pm:

An ignore button would give an individual a bit of breathing space from the one or two trolls and it would take some of the pressure off the moderators.
The only people who would lose out are the few people who get off by annoying others

Yes it would, but it ain't going to happen.
I started a thread on just this subject a couple of weeks ago but freediver pretty much said,NO.

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Reply #59 - Sep 10^th, 2010 at 8:10pm

skippy. wrote on Sep 10^th, 2010 at 2:21pm:

adelcrow wrote on Sep 10^th, 2010 at 12:36pm:

An ignore button would give an individual a bit of breathing space from the one or two trolls and it would take some of the pressure off the moderators.
The only people who would lose out are the few people who get off by annoying others

Yes it would, but it ain't going to happen.
I started a thread on just this subject a couple of weeks ago but freediver pretty much said,NO.

Maybe we need better moderators. Wink

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