Andrei.Hicks wrote on Sep 4
th, 2010 at 6:55pm:
Dsmithy70 wrote on Sep 4
th, 2010 at 6:51pm:
No everyone would like to see that.
And seeing everyone will be paying for this(Abbott eventually wants his scheme taxpayer funded) most people want such a scheme to be the same amount for all.
This argument that higher earners need more is just crap.
As you yourself have stated Andrei higher earners are higher educated and therefore more in control of their desitiny, so working with these undisputable facts it stands to reason a higher income couple can save and plan whilst also factoring in the public payment so therefore suffer no economic hardship in having a family.
But smithy - higher income earners have higher outgoings.
In 2007 our mortgage was $4,000 per month. Some people don't even earn that!
But we were a two income couple earning many times that so it wasnt an issue.
But drop down to one wage and it becomes a strain.
Now I realize your argument of 'you shouldn't borrow so much' etc which I am sure you think.
BUT just think for a minute how much tax people like us have paid into the system.
Do we not have a right to expect to be looked after a bit as well?
It just grates to see us get little back, pay a fortune in and see it go to hobos and losers.
No I dont think you should borrow so much or little.
What I'm saying is that(seeing you have used yourself as an example) that you and your wife could have paid more into your mortgage before she fell pregnant, paid down credit cards,personal loans etc so the transition after birth to 1 wage was not as big of a burdon.
If we followed your/Abbotts argument to its loglical conculsion if someone on 100K loses there job they are therefore entitled to more dole.
This is not the case nor should it, if ALL taxpayers are going to contribute then it should be 1 payment of X $$'s no matter income or x amount p/week for x amount of months.
Your argument about paying more tax does not gel, remember we have a proportional tax regime so whilst those on lower incomes pay less dollars the percentage of income is roughly the same.
Someone on 200K still gets the 1st 16K free pays 15 cents upto 30K the 30 cents upto 80K etc etc so they only pay the top rate on the last 50K
Yes these figures are not accurate I couldn't be bothered looking them up but you can see what I am trying to get across.