Yog wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2010 at 4:59pm:


I voted no also regardless of how it was worded.

And it was not the wording which was the problem but that most people did not want it. It was not only beaten in the referendum it was smashed and would probably do worse today.

We have one of the worlds best flags.

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The yellow section on that flag was meant to be a stylised boomerang. This one is less subtle. I don't like this one, but the idea is getting there.

Dnarever wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2010 at 6:20pm:

Until Whitlam, we had two flags. Our national anthem was not what it is today, either.

Bear in mind that things change. Many Australians fought and died under the Union Jack, not the blue ensign.

I like our flag as it is now.

What it signifies is of lesser importance than it's aesthetic appeal to me.
It's a nice look. I haven't seen any better option for a new flag, and a new flag won't change dix as far as "independence" goes.
So why bother with it?

What is it that you think may change with a new flag?
There may be a minority in the world who may ask, "Oh what is that new country?" The rest don't give a stuff. Why should they?

If Lithuania changed their flag, would you be interested at all? You probably don't even know what their current flag is.
Get over your self-importance. It's not important.
Puhlease..go overseas, read their papers, watch their TV, and realise how bloody insignificant we are compared to the rest of the world. Get off your bloody high horse.

We have a recognisable flag now. Don't take that for granted.


I don't think that you can fathom that nobody really cares. Well, they care about as much as you do when you hear of another suicide bombing in Iraq. Can you empathise with that? Probably not.

Nobody cares about Australia except Australians, get it through your frikin scones!!

Amadd wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2010 at 9:31am:

I disagree. The Jack in the corner implies that we're still in short pants, tied to mummy's apron strings.

I guess that's also an argument for a Republic, but I find the Commonwealth connection comforting. The constant visual reminder on the flag, I find obnoxious. Doesn't make a lot of sense, I know, but that's the way of it for me. Add to that the fundamentally flawed design of our current flag and change is in order.

mellie wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2010 at 9:25am:

I'll be interested to hear what they say when you ask.
# wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2010 at 4:23pm:

Like I said, if we earn the right.

Our Flag

Author: Unknown

  Our Flag wears the stars that blaze at night,
In our Southern skies of blue,
And a little old flag in the corner,
That’s part of our heritage too.

It’s for the English, the Scots and the Irish,
Who were sent to the ends of the earth,
The rogues and schemers, the doers and dreamers,
Who gave modern Australia its birth.

And you, who are shouting to change it,
You don’t seem to understand,
It’s the flag of our laws and our language,
Not the flag of a faraway land.

Though there are plenty of people who'll tell you,
How when Europe was plunged into night,
That little old flag in the corner,
Was their symbol of freedom and light.

It doesn’t mean we owe allegiance,
To a forgotten imperial dream,
We’ve the stars to show where we’re going,
And the old flag to show where we’ve been.

It’s only an old piece of bunting,
It’s only an old piece of rag,
But there are thousands who’ve died for its honour,
And shed of their blood for OUR FLAG.

mellie wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2010 at 9:25am:

Amadd wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2010 at 9:31am:

We're all most comfortable with the familiar. That's probably why I don't support a Republic.

Have either of you tried thinking outside your comfort zones?