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Re: Should we become a republic and acquire a new flag
Reply #30 - Sep 2^nd, 2010 at 4:29pm

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aikmann4 wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2010 at 4:25pm:

why the f*ck would we make the emblem of a conquered people into our national symbol ...

Because it's a superior design.

You have an extremely wrong sense of aesthetics.

The Aboriginal flag is okay though; I'm not disputing that it is an effective aesthetic design. The Australian flag actually violates various vexillological rules but it doesn't really matter as it looks great.

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Reply #31 - Sep 2^nd, 2010 at 4:29pm

aikmann4 wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2010 at 4:25pm:

why the f*ck would we make the emblem of a conquered people into our national symbol lmao

Because that's exactly what this would-be new flags symbolises...their having conquered a monarchy, become a republic, .... and think this flag would appeal to specific anti-monarchical focus groups also.

Roll Eyes

I agree with you re- what this flag represents, and how it's too similar to conquered others.

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Reply #32 - Sep 2^nd, 2010 at 4:33pm

# wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2010 at 4:27pm:

aikmann4 wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2010 at 4:25pm:

why the f*ck would we make the emblem of a conquered people into our national symbol ...

Because it's a superior design.

Well if it is pretty you are looking for maybe we should get a couple of sydney h0m0s to knock something up, the more minority input the better. Grin

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# Gold Member Offline A fool is certain: an ignorant fool, absolutely so Posts: 2603	Re: Should we become a republic and acquire a new flag Reply #33 - Sep 2^nd, 2010 at 4:36pm aikmann4 wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2010 at 4:29pm: ...The Aboriginal flag is okay though; I'm not disputing that it is an effective aesthetic design. The Australian flag actually violates various vexillological rules but it doesn't really matter as it looks great. I disagree. Our current flag is a mess.
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Reply #34 - Sep 2^nd, 2010 at 4:36pm

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2010 at 4:33pm:

# wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2010 at 4:27pm:

aikmann4 wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2010 at 4:25pm:

why the f*ck would we make the emblem of a conquered people into our national symbol ...

Because it's a superior design.

Well if it is pretty you are looking for maybe we should get a couple of sydney h0m0s to knock something up, the more minority input the better. Grin

Why Sydney h0m0s? don't you have artistic gays in Townsville?

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Equitist Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 9632 NSW	Re: Should we become a republic and acquire a new flag Reply #35 - Sep 2^nd, 2010 at 4:37pm Andrei.Hicks wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2010 at 4:29pm: Who gives a toss about the Abos? I sure as hell don't. A wasteful, useless group of people if ever there were any. LOL...so sayeth the egogentric (sic) country-shopping tax-evading alien gypsy - and amoral henchman for hire!?
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Re: Should we become a republic and acquire a new flag
Reply #36 - Sep 2^nd, 2010 at 4:38pm

I'm not sure you quite get it. Integrating the Aboriginal flag into our national flag is simply insulting and cheapens what was the greatest thing to ever occur to the Australian continent; it's colonization and conquest by Anglo-Saxon peoples. It's like the Romans invading Gaul and then replacing the Eagle with the Boar on their imperial standard. It's a celebration of weakness, a failed culture, and a capitulation of the strong to the impotent. It's enormously offensive on so many levels.

Vae victis.

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Reply #37 - Sep 2^nd, 2010 at 4:39pm

skippy. wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2010 at 4:36pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2010 at 4:33pm:

# wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2010 at 4:27pm:

aikmann4 wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2010 at 4:25pm:

why the f*ck would we make the emblem of a conquered people into our national symbol ...

Because it's a superior design.

Well if it is pretty you are looking for maybe we should get a couple of sydney h0m0s to knock something up, the more minority input the better. Grin

Why Sydney h0m0s? don't you have artistic gays in Townsville?

I don't know, might have to pop down to the Sov' and ask them if they want to break out their sewing machines and have go.

I just thought the sydney mob could get together after madi gras and come up with something fabulous and sassy. Grin

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BlOoDy RiPpEr Gold Member Offline aussie-patriot.com Posts: 2475 Sydney Gender:	Re: Should we become a republic and acquire a new flag Reply #38 - Sep 2^nd, 2010 at 4:40pm There is no republic nation that is as good as Australia. So why lower our standards to a republic?
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Yog Junior Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 63	Re: Should we become a republic and acquire a new flag Reply #39 - Sep 2^nd, 2010 at 4:44pm Didn't we have a Referendum on this issue years ago?
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Re: Should we become a republic and acquire a new flag
Reply #40 - Sep 2^nd, 2010 at 4:49pm

Our Australian flag is absolutely beautiful, crisp, vibrant and young.
Just like our country.

And I think it's in poor taste that Australian primary schools students are yet again being encouraged to design new Australian flags, as though defacing our existing flag formed part of the school curriculum.

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We have an Australian flag, if you don't like it, then leave.

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Re: Should we become a republic and acquire a new flag
Reply #41 - Sep 2^nd, 2010 at 4:52pm

Yog wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2010 at 4:44pm:

Didn't we have a Referendum on this issue years ago?

As you would know, the wording was was cynically designed by Howard & Co, so as to be a self-defeating pseudo-referendum!

I seem to recall that a former Lib Leader was rather scathing of a certain former Lib PM over this...

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Re: Should we become a republic and acquire a new flag
Reply #42 - Sep 2^nd, 2010 at 4:53pm

We may as well keep the flag, there's way too many out there already for a change to be worthwhile. But if we do change the flag, I'd prefer it if we kept the design simple - like just a single colour. A plain blue flag would be nice and practical as it would just mean painting over the Union Jack and the stars on the existing ones.

But definately a big yes to becoming a republic one day.....

....but only if we can change the name from the quite boring "Australia" to something a bit more impressive like "The Democratic Republic of the Freedom Loving People of that Great Southern Land Australia" - or DRFLPGSLA for short.

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aikmann4 Gold Member Offline Posts: 2093 canberra	Re: Should we become a republic and acquire a new flag Reply #43 - Sep 2^nd, 2010 at 4:54pm It always comes back to 'Howard & Co' with you, doesn't it? It's going to rain tomorrow. I'm sure Howard had something to do with it.
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Re: Should we become a republic and acquire a new flag
Reply #44 - Sep 2^nd, 2010 at 4:59pm

Equitist wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2010 at 4:52pm:

Yog wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2010 at 4:44pm:

Didn't we have a Referendum on this issue years ago?

As you would know, the wording was was cynically designed by Howard & Co, so as to be a self-defeating pseudo-referendum!

I seem to recall that a former Lib Leader was rather scathing of a certain former Lib PM over this...

Well, I voted Yes, regardless of how it was worded. Wink

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Question: Should OZ become a republic and acquire a new flag
Yes 4 (14.8%) No 14 (51.9%) New flag, no republic 4 (14.8%) Old flag, become a republic 5 (18.5%) Total votes: 27 « Created by: mellie on: Sep 2^nd, 2010 at 1:18pm »