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Re: Should we become a republic and acquire a new flag
Reply #15 - Sep 2^nd, 2010 at 3:44pm

mellie wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2010 at 3:33pm:

We need to retain our identity, before a Bryce_shorten administration makes anymore changes to our existing constitution and finally has it's way.

A Governor General Quentin Bryce should be replaced due to her being in breech of her own oath, and familial conflicts of interest.

We are effectively paying her to destabilise our patriotic country and install a republican Shorten-administration.

And what was her oath again?

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...meanwhile, in the background, her son-in-law Bill Shorten sets about transforming us into a republic, as her designer husband Michael Bryce forms part of a judging panel to decide what will be our next Australian flag, minus the Union Jack.

It doesn't get much more disloyal and un-patriotic as this.

If you swear allegiance, then that is exactly what you do, the treasonous moll.

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Reply #16 - Sep 2^nd, 2010 at 3:45pm

mellie wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2010 at 3:33pm:

We need to retain our identity, before a Bryce_shorten administration makes anymore changes to our existing constitution and finally has it's way.

A Governor General Quentin Bryce should be replaced due to her being in breech of her own oath, and familial conflicts of interest.

We are effectively paying her to destabilise our patriotic country and install a republican Shorten-administration.

And what was her oath again?

....... Cool

...meanwhile, in the background, her son-in-law Bill Shorten sets about transforming us into a republic, as her designer husband Michael Bryce forms part of a judging panel to decide what will be our next Australian flag, minus the Union Jack.

It doesn't get much more disloyal and un-patriotic as this.

Oath of Office

I, QUENTIN ALICE LOUISE BRYCE, do swear that I will well and truly serve Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth the Second, Her heirs and successors according to law, in the office of Governor-General of the Commonwealth of Australia, and I will do right to all manner of people after the laws and usages of the Commonwealth of Australia, without fear or favour, affection or ill will. SO HELP ME GOD!

(Quentin Alice Louise Bryce)

Sworn, declared and subscribed by the abovenamed Quentin Alice Louise Bryce at Canberra in the Australian Capital Territory before me on 5 September 2008

(Robert French)
Chief Justice of Australia

http://www.gg.gov.au/content.php/page/id/16/title/oath-of-office

You do make a good point Mellington. Is the penalty for treason still execution by firing squad?

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Re: Should we become a republic and acquire a new flag
Reply #17 - Sep 2^nd, 2010 at 3:51pm

mellie wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2010 at 1:18pm:

Please outline your reasons for preferring one way or the other. Cool

You don't have a viable option for my preference.

My preference is for a federation , similar to the Swiss Federation, as opposed to a Republic. A monarchy is anachronistic and we have the situation where foreign heads of state pay their respects to our head of state - The Queen, or even worse, King Charles and Queen Camilla.

My option is not to change the system much. We don't need an actual president. We have enough layers of government as it is. All we need is a presiding council with a representative from each state with powers similar to the current GG.

On the subject of the flag, perhaps it's an opportunity to transition to a new flag that reflects the joint values of a Federation.

Perhaps we could retain the Southern Cross, and increase the size of the Federation star. It's a suggestion. Maybe we should have a competition.

I don't mind this one:

Boxing kangaroos are crass.

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Andrei.Hicks Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 23818 Carlsbad, CA Gender:	Re: Should we become a republic and acquire a new flag Reply #18 - Sep 2^nd, 2010 at 4:09pm That looks shyte. Looks like a fking African flag.
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Re: Should we become a republic and acquire a new flag
Reply #19 - Sep 2^nd, 2010 at 4:10pm

muso wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2010 at 3:51pm:

mellie wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2010 at 1:18pm:

Please outline your reasons for preferring one way or the other. Cool

You don't have a viable option for my preference.

My preference is for a federation , similar to the Swiss Federation, as opposed to a Republic. A monarchy is anachronistic and we have the situation where foreign heads of state pay their respects to our head of state - The Queen, or even worse, King Charles and Queen Camilla.

My option is not to change the system much. We don't need an actual president. We have enough layers of government as it is. All we need is a presiding council with a representative from each state with powers similar to the current GG.

On the subject of the flag, perhaps it's an opportunity to transition to a new flag that reflects the joint values of a Federation.

Perhaps we could retain the Southern Cross, but superimpose the combined floral emblems of each of the States. It's a suggestion. Maybe we should have a competition.

Boxing kangaroos are crass.

Muso, the reason I didn't provide you with this option, is because neither of our leading party's have.

As far as Labor are concerned, it's their way or no way.

They want their republic, this and made it a covert election issue when they sprung this on us just days before an election.

Much like their covert censorship issue, they don't feel at liberty to discuss either, despite Gillard herself advising reporters that censorship would be an election issue back in 2008 when they enquired about the mandatory filter then.

Another 'non-discussion' is the islamification of our country, and Labor immigrating those who they know will vote in favour of their political objectives.

Muslim immigration should have been an election also, though it wasn't.

We need to start talking about these issues, PC or not.

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mellie Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 8142 Sydney Gender:	Re: Should we become a republic and acquire a new flag Reply #20 - Sep 2^nd, 2010 at 4:13pm And no thanks Muso, I find the flag you put up rather, dreary and glum. It's design is OK...(for someone else's flag I mean)...I like the look of it, but it looks dull, dreary and weathered. I like our existing Australian flag, and will fly this flag until the day I die.
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Del_has_returned Senior Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 288	Re: Should we become a republic and acquire a new flag Reply #21 - Sep 2^nd, 2010 at 4:16pm ... wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2010 at 1:28pm: I'll vote for 'who gives a toss' with my 2nd preference going to 'no I'm not going to change the flag just for the sake of appeasing some whinging leftys' Ditto
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Reply #22 - Sep 2^nd, 2010 at 4:17pm

Are you aware socialist scum-bags have even referred to our Australian flag as being racist?

Julia Gillards radical-socialist roots are quite apparent in her politics I think.

http://www.sa.org.au/component/content/article/59-edition-113/126-the-australian...

As are her watermelon (vote-for-me) policies.

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# Gold Member Offline A fool is certain: an ignorant fool, absolutely so Posts: 2603	Re: Should we become a republic and acquire a new flag Reply #23 - Sep 2^nd, 2010 at 4:23pm I see no advantage in a republic, but do consider the flag an anachronism. If we (non-Aboriginal Australians) earn the right, I'd like to see us adopt the Aboriginal flag.
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aikmann4 Gold Member Offline Posts: 2093 canberra	Re: Should we become a republic and acquire a new flag Reply #24 - Sep 2^nd, 2010 at 4:25pm why the f*ck would we make the emblem of a conquered people into our national symbol lmao we earned the right to this land by defeating aboriginals MIGHT MAKES RIGHT
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BigOl64 Gold Member Offline Posts: 14438 Townsville QLD Gender:	Re: Should we become a republic and acquire a new flag Reply #25 - Sep 2^nd, 2010 at 4:27pm # wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2010 at 4:23pm: I see no advantage in a republic, but do consider the flag an anachronism. If we (non-Aboriginal Australians) earn the right, I'd like to see us adopt the Aboriginal flag. You'd be a friggen small group that would want to throw our flag out for the abbo flag.
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# Gold Member Offline A fool is certain: an ignorant fool, absolutely so Posts: 2603	Re: Should we become a republic and acquire a new flag Reply #26 - Sep 2^nd, 2010 at 4:27pm aikmann4 wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2010 at 4:25pm: why the f*ck would we make the emblem of a conquered people into our national symbol ... Because it's a superior design.
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Equitist Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 9632 NSW	Re: Should we become a republic and acquire a new flag Reply #27 - Sep 2^nd, 2010 at 4:27pm I'm definitely pro-republic and I'm thinking that I would like a new Aussie flag - perhaps with the Southern Cross overlaid onto (or otherwise incorporated into) the Aboriginal flag...
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Re: Should we become a republic and acquire a new flag
Reply #28 - Sep 2^nd, 2010 at 4:28pm

# wrote on Sep 2^nd, 2010 at 4:23pm:

I see no advantage in a republic, but do consider the flag an anachronism. If we (non-Aboriginal Australians) earn the right, I'd like to see us adopt the Aboriginal flag.

Should we adopt petrol sniffing, abuse children and belt the living daylights out of women too?

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Andrei.Hicks Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 23818 Carlsbad, CA Gender:	Re: Should we become a republic and acquire a new flag Reply #29 - Sep 2^nd, 2010 at 4:29pm Who gives a toss about the Abos? I sure as hell don't. A wasteful, useless group of people if ever there were any.
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Question: Should OZ become a republic and acquire a new flag
Yes 4 (14.8%) No 14 (51.9%) New flag, no republic 4 (14.8%) Old flag, become a republic 5 (18.5%) Total votes: 27 « Created by: mellie on: Sep 2^nd, 2010 at 1:18pm »