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Question: Should OZ become a republic and acquire a new flag

Yes    
  4 (14.8%)
No    
  14 (51.9%)
New flag, no republic    
  4 (14.8%)
Old flag, become a republic    
  5 (18.5%)




Total votes: 27
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Should we become a republic and acquire a new flag
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Please outline your reasons for preferring one way or the other. Cool
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Reply #1 - Sep 2nd, 2010 at 1:24pm
 
You're missing the "who gives a toss" option.
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Reply #2 - Sep 2nd, 2010 at 1:28pm
 
I'll vote for 'who gives a toss' with my 2nd preference going to 'no I'm not going to change the flag just for the sake of appeasing some whinging leftys'
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Re: Should we become a republic and acquire a new flag
Reply #3 - Sep 2nd, 2010 at 1:29pm
 
Jaykaye_09 wrote on Sep 2nd, 2010 at 1:24pm:
You're missing the "who gives a toss" option.


Well, I would have thought your not contributing to this thread itself would be indicative of your not particularly caring either way?

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Re: Should we become a republic and acquire a new flag
Reply #4 - Sep 2nd, 2010 at 1:31pm
 
mellie wrote on Sep 2nd, 2010 at 1:29pm:
Jaykaye_09 wrote on Sep 2nd, 2010 at 1:24pm:
You're missing the "who gives a toss" option.


Well, I would have thought your not contributing to this thread itself would be indicative of your not particularly caring either way?

Cool



More than not caring, it's more indicative of my dislike of this issue taking precedence over anything, including what I may or may not have for lunch.

Actually, wait. No.

I just don't care.
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Re: Should we become a republic and acquire a new flag
Reply #5 - Sep 2nd, 2010 at 1:39pm
 
... wrote on Sep 2nd, 2010 at 1:28pm:
I'll vote for 'who gives a toss' with my 2nd preference going to 'no I'm not going to change the flag just for the sake of appeasing some whinging leftys'


I believe tradition and continuity is crucial for the overall moral of any given nation,(unless radical change is absolutely necessary).. particularly a nation as young as ours who's current fanciful left-wing government is enduring some sort of belated identity crisis.

Which Julia Gillard will declare our nation a republic, the new or the old one?

Or will a GG-appointed son-in-law Bill Shorten steal her lime-light once again?


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Reply #6 - Sep 2nd, 2010 at 2:40pm
 
Can any pro-republican actually out-line the advantages of our becoming a republic, and or changing our Australian flag?

Didn't think so.

Cool... Because this was always more about appealing to specific minority's and targeted focus-groups, than the act of becoming independent itself.

Bill Shorten wants to become Australia's first president, just ask him yourself, he makes no bones about disclosing this fact.

......Though in order to do so, he needed to ride the immigrant/minority vote home, because we wont become a republic without enough of what he requires voting for a republic at his next planned referendum.

His own father-in-law Michael Bryce (GG's hubby)..will be who judges/decides our next Australian flag, as he was last time when they had the temerity of holding an New Australian flag designer contest several months before the referendum, back in 1999 when a majority of Australians opposed it. Thank god!

This is why Labor have been sucking up to minority's, our Indigenous,Greens and immigrants ....  Sorry Bob Brown, there wont be room in a Catholic Bill Shortens administration for a gay senator, contrary to what's been promised by a 'current' Labor government.

Besides, you aren't family, and as we all know, republican administrations like to keep it in the family.


Cool...Think of Australia as though it were a giant Monopoly board game under a foreign-investor bank-rolled Commonwealth Labor government currently in the early transition phase of becoming a Bryce-Shorten (republic) administration.

New flag, new anthem, new style of governance, and possibly even a new name for our country which will only be appreciated by the ruling class, who have their fingers in all manner of things, allowing our nation to more than double it's population by 2050...as per schedule.

If you thought Gillard was serious about a "sustainable Australia", not a "big Australia", then ask yourself, where is her sustainable population policy which was supposed to be drafted by her 'newly appointed' pre-electoral Sustainable Populations minister Tony Burke?

Did it go to the same place as her independent climate forum/panel?

Another pie-crust promise, easily made, easily broken.

This is your ALP

Roll Eyes...They promise the world, then give you an atlas once they've passed go and collected their $200.


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Re: Should we become a republic and acquire a new flag
Reply #7 - Sep 2nd, 2010 at 3:08pm
 
mellie wrote on Sep 2nd, 2010 at 2:40pm:
Can any pro-republican actually out-line the advantages of our becoming a republic, and or changing our Australian flag?

Didn't think so.

Cool... Because this was always more about appealing to specific minority's and targeted focus-groups, than the act of becoming independent itself.

Bill Shorten wants to become Australia's first president, just ask him yourself, he makes no bones about disclosing this fact.

......Though in order to do so, he needed to ride the immigrant/minority vote home, because we wont become a republic without enough of what he requires voting for a republic at his next planned referendum.

His own father-in-law Michael Bryce (GG's hubby)..will be who judges/decides our next Australian flag, as he was last time when they had the temerity of holding an New Australian flag designer contest several months before the referendum, back in 1999 when a majority of Australians opposed it. Thank god!

This is why Labor have been sucking up to minority's, our Indigenous,Greens and immigrants ....  Sorry Bob Brown, there wont be room in a Catholic Bill Shortens administration for a gay senator, contrary to what's been promised by a 'current' Labor government.

Besides, you aren't family, and as we all know, republican administrations like to keep it in the family.


Cool...Think of Australia as though it were a giant Monopoly board game under a foreign-investor bank-rolled Commonwealth Labor government currently in the early transition phase of becoming a Bryce-Shorten (republic) administration.

New flag, new anthem, new style of governance, and possibly even a new name for our country which will only be appreciated by the ruling class, who have their fingers in all manner of things, allowing our nation to more than double it's population by 2050...as per schedule.

If you thought Gillard was serious about a "sustainable Australia", not a "big Australia", then ask yourself, where is her sustainable population policy which was supposed to be drafted by her 'newly appointed' pre-electoral Sustainable Populations minister Tony Burke?

Did it go to the same place as her independent climate forum/panel?

Another pie-crust promise, easily made, easily broken.

This is your ALP

Roll Eyes...They promise the world, then give you an atlas once they've passed go and collected their $200.


Enjoy~!




No, we should not become a republic!
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Re: Should we become a republic and acquire a new flag
Reply #8 - Sep 2nd, 2010 at 3:16pm
 
Yes we should be a republic, our interests lie more with the US and Asia than England, an England giving preference to Europeans over Australians. Mostly symbolic, a clearly independent Australia will stand taller in SE Asia.

Without any ties to the UK crown we need to lose the union jack from our flag—something like the Canadian flag, nice and simple and clean design.

If we are to be a republic our President, who would have the same powers as the GG, has to be elected. No, this won’t be like the US, our Pres is not the head of the executive branch of govt.
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Reply #9 - Sep 2nd, 2010 at 3:19pm
 
I think the canadian flag is tacky.

A comparable australian one would have the boxing kangaroo on it...not a good look.
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Re: Should we become a republic and acquire a new flag
Reply #10 - Sep 2nd, 2010 at 3:20pm
 
Nope keep it as it is.

I don't want Australia becoming involved with Asia other than on an arm's length basis for trading.

Asians are not our natural allies, they have little in common with us other than the coincidence of geography and we are more suited to the common cultural ties we have with Britain.

I am proud of being Australian, I am proud of being British.
Both completely in sync and long may that continue.
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Reply #11 - Sep 2nd, 2010 at 3:20pm
 
Pearson's pennant is a piece of sh*t. Canada isn't an imitatable model for anything.
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Reply #12 - Sep 2nd, 2010 at 3:27pm
 
Darwin wrote on Sep 2nd, 2010 at 3:16pm:
Yes we should be a republic, our interests lie more with the US and Asia than England, an England giving preference to Europeans over Australians. Mostly symbolic, a clearly independent Australia will stand taller in SE Asia.

Without any ties to the UK crown we need to lose the union jack from our flag—something like the Canadian flag, nice and simple and clean design.

If we are to be a republic our President, who would have the same powers as the GG, has to be elected. No, this won’t be like the US, our Pres is not the head of the executive branch of govt.



Why is it only republicans and the flag haters believe that we are inextricably tied to 'mother england'?

We are an independant country and have been for some time now, you people need to come to that realisation, it'll make you happier in the long run.

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Reply #13 - Sep 2nd, 2010 at 3:31pm
 
BigOl64 wrote on Sep 2nd, 2010 at 3:27pm:
Darwin wrote on Sep 2nd, 2010 at 3:16pm:
Yes we should be a republic, our interests lie more with the US and Asia than England, an England giving preference to Europeans over Australians. Mostly symbolic, a clearly independent Australia will stand taller in SE Asia.

Without any ties to the UK crown we need to lose the union jack from our flag—something like the Canadian flag, nice and simple and clean design.

If we are to be a republic our President, who would have the same powers as the GG, has to be elected. No, this won’t be like the US, our Pres is not the head of the executive branch of govt.



Why is it only republicans and the flag haters believe that we are inextricably tied to 'mother england'?

We are an independant country and have been for some time now, you people need to come to that realisation, it'll make you happier in the long run.




Who on this site believes Hawaii is permanently tied to Great Britain?

See how absurd the flag argument is?
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Reply #14 - Sep 2nd, 2010 at 3:33pm
 
We need to retain our identity, before a Bryce_shorten administration makes anymore changes to our existing constitution and finally has it's way.

A Governor General Quentin Bryce should be replaced due to her being in breech of her own oath, and familial conflicts of interest.

We are effectively paying her to destabilise our patriotic country and install a republican Shorten-administration.

And what was her oath again?

....... Cool...meanwhile, in the background, her son-in-law Bill Shorten sets about transforming us into a republic, as her designer husband Michael Bryce forms part of a judging panel to decide what will be our next Australian flag, minus the Union Jack.

It doesn't get much more disloyal and un-patriotic as this.

Oath of Office

I, QUENTIN ALICE LOUISE BRYCE, do swear that I will well and truly serve Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth the Second, Her heirs and successors according to law, in the office of Governor-General of the Commonwealth of Australia, and I will do right to all manner of people after the laws and usages of the Commonwealth of Australia, without fear or favour, affection or ill will. SO HELP ME GOD!

(Quentin Alice Louise Bryce)

Sworn, declared and subscribed by the abovenamed Quentin Alice Louise Bryce at Canberra in the Australian Capital Territory before me on 5 September 2008


(Robert French)
Chief Justice of Australia


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