... wrote on Sep 1^st, 2010 at 2:23pm:



Ok, these situations occur, re- gay-IVF woman and Dad preferring Dave later on down the track, but passing bills to legalise gay-adoption is just typical of Labors poll driven policy/social engineering.

Where they get to play 'god' for a term.

....Just because it's legal, doesn't mean it's right.

All kids deserve the right to both a male and female parenting figure, if this fails, then sure, improvise, but I think it's a biological right of all, ...likewise, I'm opposed to single straight woman receiving IVF.

Again, the child is being denied the opportunity of both a maternal and paternal figure in their lives.

... wrote on Sep 1^st, 2010 at 2:23pm:


I think a kid would want to grow up in a loving stable home.

Of course they are subject to the same failings as everyone else, so why should adoption be only for hetro couples.  Why dont they just have to accept they can have kids and move on?

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She's in for a shock when she finally finds out how babies are made then.

I find it amusing people who are against it keep saying it goes against nature.

Doesnt adoption full stop go against nature, giving couples who cant have kids getting to have them?

mellie wrote on Sep 1^st, 2010 at 2:29pm:



No mellie....
All children 'deserve the right' to be raised by a person or people who loves and cares for them....

Unless you feel that single parent families (single mother OR single father) should be made illegal too..

mellie wrote on Sep 1^st, 2010 at 2:29pm:


Why don't you think about what you're saying Mel?  Approximately one third of our kids grow up in households with only one parent - and that's an overstatement.

Single parents are stressed and anxious a lot of the time. They can't give their children the quality time they demand. Two parents of either sex are better than just one as long as the child/children are wanted and loved.

You have a son at high school Mel. You must have some awareness that many of his classmates are bi-sexual or gay.  People have to choose their own partners and there is no logical reason why they shouldn't have the same rights as anyone else.




 

I haven't either. I don't think any exist yet, which is why we need studies. Progressives are always willing to dive headfirst into any notion with no looking back without cautiously asking amongst themselves whether it will be a good idea, and applying statistical tools to inform their final decision on the matter. Look at multiculturalism, multiracialism, civil rights, etc. to see that this observation holds true.

Bare in mind, adoption is first about the 'child'  not those who wish to adopt them.

Being a kid is tough enough, why make it harder than it has to be for them to fit in at school?

I cant see too many heterosexual parents being OK with their own children sleeping over at a gay household, because unfortunately, there still exists much prejudice in our society.

It might not get said out-loud in polite company, but if my sons slumber party was any indication, (I will just add his gay-friend  has been beaten up more times than I can tell you in the last year)...  my son being a popular kid now protects him though....when he's at school, but the thing is, kids can be cruel, really really cruel, and I know for certain if it weren't for my son and his mates looking after this boy, then he would have left school well before now, and despite the protection my son offers his mate at school, the A-holes find a way of getting to him after school, tagging up his house, and all sorts of wretched things.

Recently, they binned his bag....up-ended the contents of his bag, turned it inside out and stuffed it in a school bin.

Apparently it's still cool to gay-bash among some uncouth yobs and their red-neck parents, so imagine what they would do if they knew another kids parents were gay?

Prejudice and intolerance is very real, so before passing these laws, I might suggest some security in our kids playgrounds might be a good idea.

I had one parent who called me (I think from the pub) and in no uncertain terms advise that my allowing my son to have gay friends would be one of the biggest mistakes of my life.

Naturally, this made me even more determined to allow this slumber party to go ahead!

And it did...without a hitch.

....... But there's still the predicable few who more or less egg their own children on to humiliate and degrade gay students at school, as though it were acceptable.

These attitudes aren't changed over night, and or by passing new bills, first-most, children should always be considered first.

Adopted parents always get the "You aren't my real parents anyway so you cant tell me what to do" thingy at some point...   it's inevitable, and it hurts, (My children's father was adopted), but imagine these kids going to school blowing off steam to mates, telling all about his/her gay parents, this and even condemning the situation themselves this and then after having done so, expecting things to be business as usual when they have gotten over their parent-war...  no way, it's not going to happen.

If anything, we will have kids suing a future government for having been deprived of an optimal environment, in the event their own lives somehow end up a wreck.

Not unlike we saw with indigenous children being adopted out to white family's and things not working out there also.

When will we learn to stop meddling?