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Re: Same-sex adoption
Reply #255 - Sep 10^th, 2010 at 4:20pm

gizmo_2655 wrote on Sep 10^th, 2010 at 2:45pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 7^th, 2010 at 12:36am:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Sep 6^th, 2010 at 9:58am:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 5^th, 2010 at 11:42pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Sep 5^th, 2010 at 11:36pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 5^th, 2010 at 8:23pm:

You all know that I used hyperbole in my initial statement.

Kids would see that 2 Dads were in bed together at some stage
given many years of close family contact.

Not if the '2 dads' were smart enough to lock the door they wouldn't...

I never walked in on my parents In flagrante delicto...(thank the gods lol)

And seeing their parents, of whatever gender, just lying in bed would have almost NO effect on the average kid..

Gizmo - you have a lower sense of community standards compared with me.

Which community do you mean bobby???

The heterosexual community.

So we shouldn't allow gay adoptions, because the people who aren't affected by gay adoptions are against gay adoptions?????

Hmmm

Ahhh...the old 'if you're not gay and therefore 'for' the idea you don't get an opinion' chestnut.

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perceptions_now Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 11694 Perth WA Gender:	Re: Same-sex adoption Reply #256 - Sep 10^th, 2010 at 6:27pm What's the problem? I adopted a policy some time ago, which put simply is, that every time I have sex, I have it with the same sex! Problem solved?
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Re: Same-sex adoption
Reply #257 - Sep 10^th, 2010 at 10:25pm

... wrote on Sep 10^th, 2010 at 4:20pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Sep 10^th, 2010 at 2:45pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 7^th, 2010 at 12:36am:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Sep 6^th, 2010 at 9:58am:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 5^th, 2010 at 11:42pm:

gizmo_2655 wrote on Sep 5^th, 2010 at 11:36pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 5^th, 2010 at 8:23pm:

You all know that I used hyperbole in my initial statement.

Kids would see that 2 Dads were in bed together at some stage
given many years of close family contact.

Not if the '2 dads' were smart enough to lock the door they wouldn't...

I never walked in on my parents In flagrante delicto...(thank the gods lol)

And seeing their parents, of whatever gender, just lying in bed would have almost NO effect on the average kid..

Gizmo - you have a lower sense of community standards compared with me.

Which community do you mean bobby???

The heterosexual community.

So we shouldn't allow gay adoptions, because the people who aren't affected by gay adoptions are against gay adoptions?????

Hmmm

Ahhh...the old 'if you're not gay and therefore 'for' the idea you don't get an opinion' chestnut.

Similar to the 'if you are gay and for something, tough, because only the Heterosexual Community is allowed to decide' chestnut...

Much the same as men moving to ban medical abortions because they object.....

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It's similar to a strawman fallacy"
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Re: Same-sex adoption
Reply #258 - Sep 10^th, 2010 at 10:32pm

Stuff political correctness, same-sex adoption is wrong, end of story.

Enough studies have addressed the psycho-social, and psycho-sexual , emotional and even intellectual developmental concerns our government has chosen to ignore in the name of securing a minorities votes.

The fact that this bill was passed, was a breech of a child's most fundamental of human rights to begin with, the right to having both a biological mother and a father, and their states constitutional responsibility to imitate this as closely as possible in the event the above should fail.

As a society, we have choices, and as soon as Liberal get in, this thing needs to be revoked.

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buzzanddidj Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 14248 Eganstown, via Daylesford, VIC Gender:	Re: Same-sex adoption Reply #259 - Sep 10^th, 2010 at 10:57pm mellie wrote on Sep 10^th, 2010 at 10:32pm: . Enough studies have addressed the psycho-social, and psycho-sexual , emotional and even intellectual developmental concerns .............. WHAT "studies" ?
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Re: Same-sex adoption
Reply #260 - Sep 12^th, 2010 at 2:53am

Court allows gay man to adopt child Maris Beck
September 12, 2010

A JUDGE has allowed a gay man to adopt his foster child in what is believed to be a first for Victoria.

The man, who cannot be identified for legal reasons, is in a gay relationship but has adopted the child by himself to comply with Victorian laws that make it illegal for gay couples to adopt a child together.

The New South Wales Parliament passed a bill this week giving same-sex couples full adoption rights, and similar rights already exist in Western Australia, Tasmania and the ACT.

The Victorian Commission for Equal Opportunity and Human Rights intervened in this case to protect the rights of the child, who had been abused and neglected until he was placed in the couple's care four years ago.

Commissioner for Equal Opportunity Helen Szoke welcomed the judge's order allowing the gay man to adopt the child, now 11, but said until the final judgment was made public, it was too early to say whether the case set a precedent.

http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/court-allows-gay-man-to-adopt-child-20100911-1...

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mantra Gold Member Offline ozpolitic.com Posts: 10750 Gender:	Re: Same-sex adoption Reply #261 - Sep 12^th, 2010 at 6:48am Quote: As a society, we have choices, and as soon as Liberal get in, this thing needs to be revoked. It is a State issue and both the major parties agreed to it. It's hardly likely to be revoked.
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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 120758 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Same-sex adoption Reply #262 - Sep 12^th, 2010 at 12:23pm perceptions_now wrote on Sep 10^th, 2010 at 6:27pm: What's the problem? I adopted a policy some time ago, which put simply is, that every time I have sex, I have it with the same sex! Problem solved? Perceptions. Are you a giver or a taker?
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Re: Same-sex adoption
Reply #263 - Sep 12^th, 2010 at 12:25pm

buzzanddidj wrote on Sep 10^th, 2010 at 10:57pm:

mellie wrote on Sep 10^th, 2010 at 10:32pm:

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Enough studies have addressed the psycho-social, and psycho-sexual , emotional and even intellectual developmental concerns ..............

WHAT "studies" ?

All so called studies which claim to show that children raised by gay couples do poorly were all conducted by Christian groups with an obvious agenda.

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