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Reply #240 - Sep 6th, 2010 at 1:08pm
 
buzzanddidj wrote on Sep 6th, 2010 at 12:59pm:
Sprintcyclist wrote on Sep 6th, 2010 at 12:53pm:
buzz - good, you will then see that the right are sensible.

a baby needs an egg and some sperm to start.
that means a mummy and a daddy.
that's who is meant to have babies. mummys and daddys.

babies are not started through some sperm and some faeces.





I'll pass THAT on to my siister-in-law, as WELL




APPARENTLY, her 'eggs' are rotten
She did a BAD, BAD thing'
god told her she wasn't fit to be a mother
Nor was her husband fit to be a father






Evolution isn't always kind to all involved....But does this little sook of yours have anything to do with the topic?
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Reply #241 - Sep 6th, 2010 at 1:19pm
 
buzz - Quote:
........APPARENTLY, her 'eggs' are rotten
She did a BAD, BAD thing'
god told her she wasn't fit to be a mother
Nor was her husband fit to be a father .........



that's very unfortunate.

would homos being able to adopt change their situation?
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Reply #242 - Sep 7th, 2010 at 12:36am
 
gizmo_2655 wrote on Sep 6th, 2010 at 9:58am:
Bobby. wrote on Sep 5th, 2010 at 11:42pm:
gizmo_2655 wrote on Sep 5th, 2010 at 11:36pm:
Bobby. wrote on Sep 5th, 2010 at 8:23pm:
You all know that I used hyperbole in my initial statement.

Kids would see that 2 Dads were in bed together at some stage
given many years of close family contact.



Not if the '2 dads' were smart enough to lock the door they wouldn't...

I never walked in on my parents In flagrante delicto...(thank the gods lol)

And seeing their parents, of whatever gender, just lying in bed would have almost NO effect on the average kid..


Gizmo - you have a lower sense of community standards compared with me.


Which community do you mean bobby???


The heterosexual community.
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Reply #243 - Sep 7th, 2010 at 1:16am
 
http://www.kidsrightscount.org.au/faqs/


There are enough reliable studies to confirm Australian children who are raised by same sex couples perform below peer level both socially and academically, this and are less likely to want to discuss home-life, at school, or anywhere,  this and are more likely to recluse and withdraw from social situations.

What right does any government have to knowingly set about passing bills and acts in the face of research which demonstrates the fact that there's more reasons to oppose this bill in the best interests of these children than there are to pass them? 

Pure and utter selfishness, these bureaucrats aren't sane!

Parentage is the most biological and fundamental of human rights,  the right to have both a mother and a father and to know where you came from, and where this is not possible, we improvise to the the best of our ability in the best interests of the child.

Guys, buy a poodle, and leave the kiddies alone.

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Reply #244 - Sep 7th, 2010 at 11:57am
 
mellie wrote on Sep 7th, 2010 at 1:16am:
http://www.kidsrightscount.org.au/faqs/


There are enough reliable studies to confirm Australian children who are raised by same sex couples perform below peer level both socially and academically, this and are less likely to want to discuss home-life, at school, or anywhere,  this and are more likely to recluse and withdraw from social situations.

What right does any government have to knowingly set about passing bills and acts in the face of research which demonstrates the fact that there's more reasons to oppose this bill in the best interests of these children than there are to pass them?  

Pure and utter selfishness, these bureaucrats aren't sane!

Parentage is the most biological and fundamental of human rights,  the right to have both a mother and a father and to know where you came from, and where this is not possible, we improvise to the the best of our ability in the best interests of the child.

Guys, buy a poodle, and leave the kiddies alone.

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Reply #245 - Sep 7th, 2010 at 12:01pm
 
buzzanddidj wrote on Sep 7th, 2010 at 11:57am:
mellie wrote on Sep 7th, 2010 at 1:16am:
http://www.kidsrightscount.org.au/faqs/


There are enough reliable studies to confirm Australian children who are raised by same sex couples perform below peer level both socially and academically, this and are less likely to want to discuss home-life, at school, or anywhere,  this and are more likely to recluse and withdraw from social situations.

What right does any government have to knowingly set about passing bills and acts in the face of research which demonstrates the fact that there's more reasons to oppose this bill in the best interests of these children than there are to pass them?  

Pure and utter selfishness, these bureaucrats aren't sane!

Parentage is the most biological and fundamental of human rights,  the right to have both a mother and a father and to know where you came from, and where this is not possible, we improvise to the the best of our ability in the best interests of the child.

Guys, buy a poodle, and leave the kiddies alone.

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Lyle Shelton is national chief of staff of the Australian Christian Lobby





What would he know...he's just a dirty stinking christian eh buzz?
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Reply #246 - Sep 7th, 2010 at 12:01pm
 
Adolescents who have two moms as parents are no different from teens growing up with a mother and a father, a new study finds.

On measures of psychosocial well-being, school functioning, and romantic relationships and behaviors, the teens with same-sex parents were as well adjusted as their peers with opposite-sex parents. The authors found very few differences between the two groups. A more important predictor of teens' psychological and social adjustment, they found, is the quality of the relationships they have with their parents.

"This is the first study that has looked at adolescents with same-sex parents in a national sample, and it shows clearly across a wide range of variables that they're doing pretty well," said study author Charlotte J. Patterson, a professor of psychology at the University of Virginia in Charlottesville.

The research, published in the November issue of Child Development, draws data from the National Longitudinal Study of Adolescent Health, a school-based study of the health-related behaviors of kids in grades 7-12.

Dr. Ellen C. Perrin, a professor of pediatrics at Tufts School of Medicine and an expert on the development of children with gay or lesbian parents, said that few studies have focused on adolescents of same-sex parents. What data there is has been subject to attack. Critics complain that the studies reflect researcher bias and non-random participant selection.

"In this case, neither of those critiques are valid," Perrin said. The new study uses data from a broad population-based survey conducted for entirely different reasons. "That makes it very clean, so to speak; no one could argue that there was any bias involved."

Estimates of the number of teens living with same-sex parents are hard to come by. As of 1990, 6 million to 14 million children were living with a gay or lesbian parent, says the National Adoption Information Clearinghouse, a service of the U.S. Administration for Children and Families.

Perrin believes that a majority of these children were born into heterosexual families. "Only recently have there been increasing numbers of kids born or adopted into already stable same-sex couples," she explained.

The study sample included 44 children, 12 to 18 years old, parented by same-sex couples and an equivalent number of peers with opposite-sex parents. The two groups had an equal number of girls and boys and other similarities, including ethnic background, family income, and parents' level of education.

Overall, researchers found no significant differences between the two groups. Teens with two moms, for example, were neither more nor less likely than their peers with two opposite-sex parents to report having been involved in a romantic relationship during the past year or ever having sex. Both groups were generally well-adjusted, with relatively high levels of self-esteem, relatively low levels of anxiety, and good achievement in school.

The study reveals a minor difference: "The kids of same-sex parents said that they feel more connected at school," Patterson said. In other words, they felt their teachers were more open to them, and that people at school were fair and cared for them. "I think that may be a chance finding, frankly," she said.

While family type wasn't a factor in how teens fared, family relationships were. When parents reported more positive relationships with their teenagers, for instance, the teens reported lower levels of depressive symptoms.

"The qualities of teenagers' relationships with their parents are much better predictors of their overall well-being," Patterson noted.



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SOURCES: Charlotte J. Patterson, Ph.D., professor of psychology, University of Virginia, Charlottesville; Ellen C. Perrin, M.D., professor of pediatrics, Tufts School of Medicine and chief, Division of Developmental-Behavioral Pediatrics, Floating Hospital for Children, Tufts-New England Medical Center, Boston; November 2004 Child Development



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Reply #247 - Sep 7th, 2010 at 12:02pm
 
Yeah shame on him.

That bloody christian fella, trying to keep some moral family values and getting a child of two stable normal parents.

Shame on him.

We're supposed to be allowing only woofters to bring up kids these days!
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Reply #248 - Sep 7th, 2010 at 12:03pm
 
Buzz you chose your lifestyle.

It is your choice.

When you opt to live the kind of life you lead, you opt out from the right to have a child.

That is how it is. You dig the grave, you lie in the hole.
It's not our fault or choice as to which road you have decided to tread.
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Reply #249 - Sep 7th, 2010 at 12:26pm
 
buzzanddidj wrote on Sep 7th, 2010 at 12:01pm:
Adolescents who have two moms as parents are no different from teens growing up with a mother and a father, a new study finds.

On measures of psychosocial well-being, school functioning, and romantic relationships and behaviors, the teens with same-sex parents were as well adjusted as their peers with opposite-sex parents. The authors found very few differences between the two groups. A more important predictor of teens' psychological and social adjustment, they found, is the quality of the relationships they have with their parents.

"This is the first study that has looked at adolescents with same-sex parents in a national sample, and it shows clearly across a wide range of variables that they're doing pretty well," said study author Charlotte J. Patterson, a professor of psychology at the University of Virginia in Charlottesville.

The research, published in the November issue of Child Development, draws data from the National Longitudinal Study of Adolescent Health, a school-based study of the health-related behaviors of kids in grades 7-12.

Dr. Ellen C. Perrin, a professor of pediatrics at Tufts School of Medicine and an expert on the development of children with gay or lesbian parents, said that few studies have focused on adolescents of same-sex parents. What data there is has been subject to attack. Critics complain that the studies reflect researcher bias and non-random participant selection.

"In this case, neither of those critiques are valid," Perrin said. The new study uses data from a broad population-based survey conducted for entirely different reasons. "That makes it very clean, so to speak; no one could argue that there was any bias involved."

Estimates of the number of teens living with same-sex parents are hard to come by. As of 1990, 6 million to 14 million children were living with a gay or lesbian parent, says the National Adoption Information Clearinghouse, a service of the U.S. Administration for Children and Families.

Perrin believes that a majority of these children were born into heterosexual families. "Only recently have there been increasing numbers of kids born or adopted into already stable same-sex couples," she explained.

The study sample included 44 children, 12 to 18 years old, parented by same-sex couples and an equivalent number of peers with opposite-sex parents. The two groups had an equal number of girls and boys and other similarities, including ethnic background, family income, and parents' level of education.

Overall, researchers found no significant differences between the two groups. Teens with two moms, for example, were neither more nor less likely than their peers with two opposite-sex parents to report having been involved in a romantic relationship during the past year or ever having sex. Both groups were generally well-adjusted, with relatively high levels of self-esteem, relatively low levels of anxiety, and good achievement in school.

The study reveals a minor difference: "The kids of same-sex parents said that they feel more connected at school," Patterson said. In other words, they felt their teachers were more open to them, and that people at school were fair and cared for them. "I think that may be a chance finding, frankly," she said.

While family type wasn't a factor in how teens fared, family relationships were. When parents reported more positive relationships with their teenagers, for instance, the teens reported lower levels of depressive symptoms.

"The qualities of teenagers' relationships with their parents are much better predictors of their overall well-being," Patterson noted.



http://sexualhealth.e-healthsource.com/?p=news1&id=522343




SOURCES: Charlotte J. Patterson, Ph.D., professor of psychology, University of Virginia, Charlottesville; Ellen C. Perrin, M.D., professor of pediatrics, Tufts School of Medicine and chief, Division of Developmental-Behavioral Pediatrics, Floating Hospital for Children, Tufts-New England Medical Center, Boston; November 2004 Child Development



They should leave the social experiments alone, it's not as if the children have a say in the matter.
A teenage girl was found in Russia a year or so ago who was raised by wolves in the forests.
I'm sure she will turn out fine in time, but it doesn't make it right.
The last time I looked there was no shortage of married couples waiting to adopt, and the list is still counted in years.
If the gays are looking for more accessories, buy a poodle.
This is just one more way for a deviate minority group to try to appear 'normal' in society, but it doesn't wash with me I'm afraid.
I believe these gay couples are entitled to be happy, but leave the kids out of it.
Children deserve better.
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Reply #250 - Sep 7th, 2010 at 2:36pm
 
Lets take a look at school bullying, it gets so bad that kids committ suicide.

Now ask yourself how much sh!t would a teenage kid get a school if it was known his parents were 2 gay guys??


My god if you wear glasses you cop it if you have red hair you cop it if your fat you cop it if your gay yourself you'll cop it.

Now imagine how bad you would bullied and hassled at school if your parents were queer????

Heaven forbid if this gets through some kids who would have had a normal life will now be subject to the worst child hood you could imagine. Kids will be banned from playing with you kids wont be allowed over at their house.

think of the kids not yourselves you selfish faggots and lesbians.
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Reply #251 - Sep 10th, 2010 at 8:28am
 
Done - and done .....


NSW adoption bill passed
September 2010 | 07:05:15 PM

A bill giving same-sex couples the right to adopt has been passed by the NSW parliament, after the Legislative Council voted in support of a last-minute amendment to the legislation.

The bill passed its final hurdle in the upper house just after 6.30pm (AEST) on Thursday, after MPs backed the lower house amendment.

The amendment, made by Planning Minister Frank Sartor, frees up adoption agencies to act on the wishes of parents regarding where their children are adopted.

It was made to temper changes made in the upper house on Wednesday night, which narrowed an exemption from the Anti-Discrimination Act for faith-based adoption agencies.

MPs have been allowed a conscience vote on the historic legislation, leading to heated debate in both houses of the NSW parliament.

NSW is now the third state or territory to allow same-sex adoption, after the ACT and Western Australia.


http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/1349442/NSW-adoption-bill-passed


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Reply #252 - Sep 10th, 2010 at 10:35am
 
So they're ALLOWED to now....but has any gay couple actually been given the go ahead?  I imagine there'd be 200 straight couples to every gay one in the draw for a very limited number of kids.
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So they're ALLOWED to now....but has any gay couple actually been given the go ahead?  I imagine there'd be 200 straight couples to every gay one in the draw for a very limited number of kids.


It might be difficult for them to manage to actually get a child to adopt, but the important is that the law passed.

I am happy for all gay couples in NSW.
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Reply #254 - Sep 10th, 2010 at 2:45pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Sep 7th, 2010 at 12:36am:
gizmo_2655 wrote on Sep 6th, 2010 at 9:58am:
Bobby. wrote on Sep 5th, 2010 at 11:42pm:
gizmo_2655 wrote on Sep 5th, 2010 at 11:36pm:
Bobby. wrote on Sep 5th, 2010 at 8:23pm:
You all know that I used hyperbole in my initial statement.

Kids would see that 2 Dads were in bed together at some stage
given many years of close family contact.



Not if the '2 dads' were smart enough to lock the door they wouldn't...

I never walked in on my parents In flagrante delicto...(thank the gods lol)

And seeing their parents, of whatever gender, just lying in bed would have almost NO effect on the average kid..


Gizmo - you have a lower sense of community standards compared with me.


Which community do you mean bobby???


The heterosexual community.


So we shouldn't allow gay adoptions, because the people who aren't affected by gay adoptions are against gay adoptions?????

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