Australian Politics Forum - Same-sex adoption

Yahoon Full Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 186	Re: Same-sex adoption Reply #195 - Sep 4^th, 2010 at 9:00pm You should fag it up a bit more. There's a gay club in Sydney called Kens that has fat Labor politicians checking out all the promiscuous gays.
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Reply #196 - Sep 4^th, 2010 at 9:03pm

Excuse me,
but as one Celibate Male (he who hops on a horse and not fall off the other side) once said:
"Surely it is pure 'Mental Abuse' to allow Homosexual People (those who forsake Pro-creation through heterosexuality) to have ...children?"
I guess this goes with the fact that a lot of Homosexuals are Paedophiles.

Its not because of Religion that I reject Same-Sex Marriages and Adoptions ...and even IVF's.
Its because of pure Hypocrisy!
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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 120795 Melbourne Gender:	Re: Same-sex adoption Reply #197 - Sep 5^th, 2010 at 12:14am What if kids happen to walk in to the bedroom when their two Dads are bum chumming each other? It's not acceptable in my opinion to have gays bringing up kids.
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Yahoon Full Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 186	Re: Same-sex adoption Reply #198 - Sep 5^th, 2010 at 12:16am So why did you vote for the greens again? I know you didn't look at their death tax policy. Did you bother to look at their social policies, or did you just goose step mindlessly along?
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Reply #199 - Sep 5^th, 2010 at 12:19am

Yahoon wrote on Sep 5^th, 2010 at 12:16am:

So why did you vote for the greens again? I know you didn't look at their death tax policy. Did you bother to look at their social policies, or did you just goose step mindlessly along?

I only supported the Greens because they would put the brakes
on whoever was in power.
Many of their policies are absolutely ridiculous - I agree.

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Reply #200 - Sep 5^th, 2010 at 7:17am

Bobby. wrote on Sep 5^th, 2010 at 12:14am:

What if kids happen to walk in to the bedroom when their
two Dads are bum chumming each other?

It's not acceptable in my opinion to have gays bringing up kids.

There are thousands of same sex couples bringing up kids already. They've tried a heterosexual relationship and not been happy and moved on taking their kids with them.

There's no need to be so crass about these people who haven't been satisfied with the opposite sex - and I can't see why they would raise their kids any differently to hetero couples.

Any young kid who sees people having sex regardless of their gender is usually revolted, but a responsible parent ensures that sex is private. Just because they're gay doesn't mean they'll leave the bedroom door open.

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Reply #201 - Sep 5^th, 2010 at 7:26am

I don't see any difference to a gay couple bringing up children than any other family type. Gone are the days of the stereotypical family of a married mum and dad.

Families consist of any number of alternatives now. I don't think that a child would be any less affected by having gay parents than living with a mother or father that changes partners on a regular basis.

It's more about a loving, safe environment than sexual orientation.

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andrei said: Great isn't it? Seeing boatloads of what is nothing more than human garbage turn up.....

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Reply #202 - Sep 5^th, 2010 at 8:01am

There is a need in children for BOTH male and female parental figures in house. To argue against this is hopeless. However the situation is caused, children of single parents are at a big emotional handicap.

Much of today`s selfish dogma on this issue can be laid directly at the feet of egotistical feminism. This is a crutch for people who, for the most part are too selfish to share a family with a spouse, they`e so egotistical and emotionally fragile that they need to be the centre of the universe.

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Reply #203 - Sep 5^th, 2010 at 10:20am

aussiefree2ride wrote on Sep 5^th, 2010 at 8:01am:

There is a need in children for BOTH male and female parental figures in house. To argue against this is hopeless. However the situation is caused, children of single parents are at a big emotional handicap.

Much of today`s selfish dogma on this issue can be laid directly at the feet of egotistical feminism. This is a crutch for people who, for the most part are too selfish to share a family with a spouse, they`e so egotistical and emotionally fragile that they need to be the centre of the universe.

It's about time that Mothers & Fathers took some responsibility
& brought up their kids together.
Even if the're not happy they should stay together for their kids.
There should be no need to have kids being adopted by gays.

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Reply #204 - Sep 5^th, 2010 at 5:32pm

Bobby. wrote on Sep 5^th, 2010 at 10:20am:

aussiefree2ride wrote on Sep 5^th, 2010 at 8:01am:

There is a need in children for BOTH male and female parental figures in house. To argue against this is hopeless. However the situation is caused, children of single parents are at a big emotional handicap.

Much of today`s selfish dogma on this issue can be laid directly at the feet of egotistical feminism. This is a crutch for people who, for the most part are too selfish to share a family with a spouse, they`e so egotistical and emotionally fragile that they need to be the centre of the universe.

It's about time that Mothers & Fathers took some responsibility
& brought up their kids together.
Even if the're not happy they should stay together for their kids.
There should be no need to have kids being adopted by gays.

Two carers that HATE each other, VS two carers that LOVE each other

We HAVE lift-off !

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Reply #205 - Sep 5^th, 2010 at 5:37pm

buzzanddidj wrote on Sep 5^th, 2010 at 5:32pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 5^th, 2010 at 10:20am:

aussiefree2ride wrote on Sep 5^th, 2010 at 8:01am:

There is a need in children for BOTH male and female parental figures in house. To argue against this is hopeless. However the situation is caused, children of single parents are at a big emotional handicap.

Much of today`s selfish dogma on this issue can be laid directly at the feet of egotistical feminism. This is a crutch for people who, for the most part are too selfish to share a family with a spouse, they`e so egotistical and emotionally fragile that they need to be the centre of the universe.

It's about time that Mothers & Fathers took some responsibility
& brought up their kids together.
Even if the're not happy they should stay together for their kids.
There should be no need to have kids being adopted by gays.

Two carers that HATE each other, VS two carers that LOVE each other

We HAVE lift-off !

Yeah just chuck morals and traditional family values out the window eh Buzz?

Think how much crap a kid would go through from his peers with a pair of woofters as 'parents'??

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gizmo_2655 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 16010 South West NSW Gender:	Re: Same-sex adoption Reply #206 - Sep 5^th, 2010 at 5:39pm Bobby. wrote on Sep 5^th, 2010 at 12:14am: What if kids happen to walk in to the bedroom when their two Dads are bum chumming each other? It's not acceptable in my opinion to have gays bringing up kids. What if kids walk into the bedroom when their dad is buming their mum??? Much the same reaction, wouldn't you say??
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Reply #207 - Sep 5^th, 2010 at 5:44pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Sep 5^th, 2010 at 5:37pm:

buzzanddidj wrote on Sep 5^th, 2010 at 5:32pm:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 5^th, 2010 at 10:20am:

aussiefree2ride wrote on Sep 5^th, 2010 at 8:01am:

There is a need in children for BOTH male and female parental figures in house. To argue against this is hopeless. However the situation is caused, children of single parents are at a big emotional handicap.

Much of today`s selfish dogma on this issue can be laid directly at the feet of egotistical feminism. This is a crutch for people who, for the most part are too selfish to share a family with a spouse, they`e so egotistical and emotionally fragile that they need to be the centre of the universe.

It's about time that Mothers & Fathers took some responsibility
& brought up their kids together.
Even if the're not happy they should stay together for their kids.
There should be no need to have kids being adopted by gays.

Two carers that HATE each other, VS two carers that LOVE each other

We HAVE lift-off !

Yeah just chuck morals and traditional family values out the window eh Buzz?

Think how much crap a kid would go through from his peers with a pair of woofters as 'parents'??

And why not Andrei???
"morals" and 'family values' are very much subjective ideals......they change with societies concepts...

100 years ago, marriages between catholics and protestants were against 'morals and family values'..
60 years ago, interracial marriages were against 'morals and family values'.....30 years ago having children out of wedlock was against 'morals and family values'...

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"I just get sick of people who place a label on someone else with their own definition.

It's similar to a strawman fallacy"
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Andrei.Hicks Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 23818 Carlsbad, CA Gender:	Re: Same-sex adoption Reply #208 - Sep 5^th, 2010 at 5:45pm Who are we to declare the social morals and values by all of our previous generations to be 'wrong'? So my grandparents held moral values which were 'immoral' were they??! Pretty arrogant of us.
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Reply #209 - Sep 5^th, 2010 at 6:04pm

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Sep 5^th, 2010 at 5:45pm:

Who are we to declare the social morals and values by all of our previous generations to be 'wrong'?

So my grandparents held moral values which were 'immoral' were they??!

Pretty arrogant of us.

No you're grandparents morals weren't 'immoral'...just different, or appropriate for THEIR time...

What was 'appropriate' in their day isn't necessarily 'appropriate' now...

In your grandparents time.....smoking was appropriate ..do you think it's a social requirement NOW???

"Who are we to declare the social morals and values by all of our previous generations to be 'wrong'?"
Social morals change according to social values...

Or do you think it's still ok to lynch black men for talking to white women????
Or is it 'moral' to own black people....because they're 'sub-human'....
Is it 'moral' to burn people because they aren't christian????

ALL these things were MORAL at some point in history....

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"I just get sick of people who place a label on someone else with their own definition.

It's similar to a strawman fallacy"
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