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Re: Good PM's come to those who wait
Reply #45 - Aug 26^th, 2010 at 7:39am

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Abbott has refused to release the costing for his policies.....

I think this is going to be a huge problem for Abbott especially when he's stated that he doesn't trust the Treasury or the public service and there is a question mark hanging over the head of the auditing firm he's using for his "costings".

This means if he wins government - the public service and Treasury will have to be sacked - which I doubt we can afford at present.

Listening to Tony Windsor this morning - this is a big worry for him as he wants to see how the figures add up before he makes a decision.

It isn't looking good for Abbott today.

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Re: Good PM's come to those who wait
Reply #46 - Aug 26^th, 2010 at 7:41am

Tony Abbott should smack off the black mailing independents. Let the witch cling on by giving them what they “demand”. Is that the way a nation should be governed, by a weak witch who is so smacking desperate to hang on she’ll do anything? If that pathetic witch gets to be PM, there’ll be an election early next year.

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Reply #47 - Aug 26^th, 2010 at 8:27am

mantra - abbotts playing to his strength. can't let a miority push him around.
judas tried it during the campaign with meetings and came off 2nd best.

the independants are supposed to represent their constituents, if they don't, they get fired next election.

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THE three rural Independent MPs who could decide the nation's political fate have been sent a clear message from their constituents to back Tony Abbott, an exclusive Courier-Mail/Galaxy poll finds........
.......... But a Galaxy poll finds the voters of Kennedy, New England and Lyne want their MPs to side with the Coalition. Only 37 per cent of voters in those seats are in favour of Mr Katter, Mr Windsor and Mr Oakeshott supporting Ms Gillard's bid for minority government, with 54 per cent opposed.

By contrast, 55 per cent support backing Mr Abbott and one-third are opposed........]

http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/national/poll-says-independents-should-back-t...

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mantra Gold Member Offline ozpolitic.com Posts: 10750 Gender:	Re: Good PM's come to those who wait Reply #48 - Aug 26^th, 2010 at 8:30am I saw that Sprintcyclist, but as Tony Windsor said this morning - they have to take preferences into consideration also. In some cases their Greens or Labor preferences might be greater than Coalition preferences. It was only a small poll.
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Re: Good PM's come to those who wait
Reply #49 - Aug 26^th, 2010 at 8:31am

Abbott is in a very weak position. He needs the indies but refuses to have his costings scrutinised by Treasury.

That is the situation. Julia will serve 3 years as PM. Get used to it Sprint, the man you have a crush on is weak as piss.

With a nice bit of pork the voters in the Indie electorates will come round. No reason why the NBN can’t be run out in Kennedy, New England, Lyne and O’Connor next Grin

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skippy. Gold Member Offline Posts: 20882 Gender:	Re: Good PM's come to those who wait Reply #50 - Aug 26^th, 2010 at 8:39am Well if Abbott wont release his costings it just shows he was bullsh1ting to begin with and doesn't want to get found out. It also means he has no chance at forming government as the independents said yesterday, no costings ,no government. GOOD,
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Cyberman Senior Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 391	Re: Good PM's come to those who wait Reply #51 - Aug 26^th, 2010 at 8:43am Quote: Mr Windsor, one of three independents likely to determine the next government, says the issue won't be "a deal breaker",
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Darwin Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1037	Re: Good PM's come to those who wait Reply #52 - Aug 26^th, 2010 at 8:44am Longer term it is even worse for the Coalition, skippy. Farmers and rural voters generally will see Indy’s electorates benefit and will be much more critical of the Nats sucking up to the Libs and ignoring rural concerns. Expect to see more Labor and Indy in rural electorates in future!
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Reply #53 - Aug 26^th, 2010 at 8:44am

mantra - had you voted for a leftward leaning independant.
then he sided with the right, would you vote for that independant again?

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......."I'll give you an instance - broadband. This $43bn figure that's bandied about. I haven't seen the real trail that ends up to that number and in fact I think that's a fictitious number ... we want to find out what the real one is and there should be a trail that leads us to that," Mr Windsor told reporters at the National Press Club this afternoon...........
..........the government has never provided a cost-benefit analysis to support the ambitious project.

In fact Communications Minister Stephen Conroy has repeatedly said there was no need for such a study.

Senator Conroy last reiterated that stance to reporters on August 10 at the National Press Club, Canberra.

"Telstra made it very clear that they could find no business case beyond five capital cities and north and south of Sydney.

"So the Gillard government has decided we're going to do it......

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/australian-it/government/nbn-under-scrutiny-by-c...

dudds nbn is uncosted. as an independant, would you agree to that ?

darwin, you have your site that has its own prejudiced modding, as has this site.
I see no reason to reply to anything you say.
go back to your own deserted site.

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mantra Gold Member Offline ozpolitic.com Posts: 10750 Gender:	Re: Good PM's come to those who wait Reply #54 - Aug 26^th, 2010 at 8:44am Cyberman wrote on Aug 26^th, 2010 at 8:43am: Quote: Mr Windsor, one of three independents likely to determine the next government, says the issue won't be "a deal breaker", Then he has changed his mind. He said the opposite about an hour ago.
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vegitamite Ex Member	Re: Good PM's come to those who wait Reply #55 - Aug 26^th, 2010 at 8:50am *Tony Abbott a PM that will walk out of the press conference when things got tough* !
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Re: Good PM's come to those who wait
Reply #56 - Aug 26^th, 2010 at 8:52am

mantra wrote on Aug 26^th, 2010 at 8:44am:

Cyberman wrote on Aug 26^th, 2010 at 8:43am:

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Mr Windsor, one of three independents likely to determine the next government, says the issue won't be "a deal breaker",

Then he has changed his mind. He said the opposite about an hour ago.

I saw it come out of his mouth at the press club yesterday, he said
NO COSTING NO GOVERNMENT. Which is how it should be, the fact the Lib huggers are supporting Abbott in his hiding of his costings just proves what tards they are to support someone even though they know he is lying.

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vegitamite Ex Member	Re: Good PM's come to those who wait Reply #57 - Aug 26^th, 2010 at 9:05am Abbott's arguement is becoming entirely ,or tiredly, unconvincing !
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Re: Good PM's come to those who wait
Reply #58 - Aug 26^th, 2010 at 9:09am

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Furthermore, more people voted for Tony Abbott as an individual as per their primary vote than they did Gillard.

Ye smellie (if I have misplaced a space there, you may find it residing between your ears Grin

), do you realise that Beasley also had more primary votes than Howard?

Oh what a better world it could've been.

Our system needs to be run with regard to preferences. It also needs two major parties to compete.
Would you be happy if the Nationals were running the country in their own right? No? Then why did you vote for them?

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mellie Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 8142 Sydney Gender:	Re: Good PM's come to those who wait Reply #59 - Aug 26^th, 2010 at 9:11am We shall see. Wont know for another 9 days ...3rd September at the earliest. So strap yourselves in, it's going to be a tight squeeze. I am anticipating quite a few bruised egos.
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