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Re: Good PM's come to those who wait
Reply #15 - Aug 25^th, 2010 at 11:38pm

mellie wrote on Aug 25^th, 2010 at 11:33pm:

The peoples vote must come first, and with Gillard already trying to fast-track negotiations with the "Independents".... what is she saying?

The postal votes count for nothing as she like with dethroning our Queen, sets about making plans to lock-in "Independents" votes before the peoples are even finished being counted?

Think again.

Cool

FFS, Mellie...unlike attack-dog Abbott, Gillard is a very skilled negotiator - and she obviously knows full well that bullying and rushing other parties tends to be counter-productive...

Abbott and Gillard are being given equal opportunity to participate in a fair, progressive and transparent process - and Abbott ought to be respectful, honourable, open and forthcoming in that process, or he will deal himself out of the equation by default!

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deepthought Gold Member Offline In Defence Of Liberty Posts: 2869	Re: Good PM's come to those who wait Reply #16 - Aug 25^th, 2010 at 11:42pm Equitist wrote on Aug 25^th, 2010 at 11:31pm: FFS, Mellie et al, it is only your fellow right whingers who have been arrogant enough to call this election one way or another . . . You mean like this 'right whinger'? http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1282439836/0#0
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Re: Good PM's come to those who wait
Reply #17 - Aug 25^th, 2010 at 11:42pm

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UPDATE: LIBERAL Sarah Henderson is within striking distance of Labor's Darren Cheeseman as counting continues today in Corangamite.

Mr Cheeseman was hanging on by only 573 votes after preferences this afternoon (5.12pm), having seen his overnight lead of more than 1200 quickly whittled away in counting this morning.

... It;s almost certain Liberal have this traditionally conservative Lib-Nat seat.

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With more than 15,000 votes - postal, pre-poll and absentee - still to be counted, Mr Cheeseman was doing his own scrutineering in Colac today

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Re: Good PM's come to those who wait
Reply #18 - Aug 25^th, 2010 at 11:46pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Aug 25^th, 2010 at 11:31pm:

equit - mozzas a typical bad loser leftard.
he's a lying cowardly bully just like judas.

would you debate under such conditions?

Err...ummnnn....suffice to say that I reckon that your little dispute with Mozz would have been long forgotten already, if the heat-of-the-moment election evening altercation had been allowed to slide...

Oh, and there's still opportunity for that slide to occur - but it will just take a little longer than it otherwise would have...

Wink

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mellie Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 8142 Sydney Gender:	Re: Good PM's come to those who wait Reply #19 - Aug 25^th, 2010 at 11:49pm Perhaps you should read this then.... http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-08-25/australia-to-count-special-ballots-that... The postal counts practically just started....and already we are bringing in independents to call the election as they see fit? Dream on!
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Re: Good PM's come to those who wait
Reply #20 - Aug 25^th, 2010 at 11:52pm

deepthought wrote on Aug 25^th, 2010 at 11:42pm:

Equitist wrote on Aug 25^th, 2010 at 11:31pm:

FFS, Mellie et al, it is only your fellow right whingers who have been arrogant enough to call this election one way or another . . .

You mean like this 'right whinger'?

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1282439836/0#0

OK, I concede that I ought to have not been so absolute - I've obviously been spending too much time with black/white-thinking right whingers...

Either way, can you prove me less than about 95% correct - on threads and/or individual posts!?

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mellie Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 8142 Sydney Gender:	Re: Good PM's come to those who wait Reply #21 - Aug 25^th, 2010 at 11:53pm At least 2 of the Independents oppose her mining levy, and with Cheesmans seat up for grabs, lemmy see now, could this mean.....75? Abbotts won for sure!
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mellie Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 8142 Sydney Gender:	Re: Good PM's come to those who wait Reply #22 - Aug 25^th, 2010 at 11:58pm It's hardly surprising that Abbott doesn't feel overly pressured pandering to the 7-point whims of those whom bark them. But Gillards still hopeful her Jedi mind-trick will suffice. A short red skirt perhaps? http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-08-25/australia-to-count-special-ballots-that...
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Re: Good PM's come to those who wait
Reply #23 - Aug 26^th, 2010 at 12:01am

Equitist wrote on Aug 25^th, 2010 at 11:52pm:

deepthought wrote on Aug 25^th, 2010 at 11:42pm:

Equitist wrote on Aug 25^th, 2010 at 11:31pm:

FFS, Mellie et al, it is only your fellow right whingers who have been arrogant enough to call this election one way or another . . .

You mean like this 'right whinger'?

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1282439836/0#0

OK, I concede that I ought to have not been so absolute - I've obviously been spending too much time with black/white-thinking right whingers...

Either way, can you prove me less than about 95% correct - on threads and/or individual posts!?

I believe there was certainly an explosion of effusive glee on Election Night. And, one may ask, why not?

To a right winger, and I am one, the last three years have been pretty bleak.

The polls as recently as three or four months ago held out little hope of a change of government, if they could have been believed.

Just a couple of weeks ago they tended to favour the GALP still.

The bookies had long odds on the coalition winning and the media for the most part believed the GALP would win.

Imagine the situation in reverse.

Then on Saturday night, the swing away from the GALP was almost total (what is wrong with Tasmanians?).

I fully understand the excitement.

Even now it appears that the coalition will be able to form a minority government with the support of just two Independents.

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mellie Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 8142 Sydney Gender:	Re: Good PM's come to those who wait Reply #24 - Aug 26^th, 2010 at 12:06am Take a look at this....as of 9.46 pm tonight. http://vtr.aec.gov.au/Default.htm Still....with only 79.78% of the primary vote having been counted. rubs hands together
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mellie Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 8142 Sydney Gender:	Re: Good PM's come to those who wait Reply #25 - Aug 26^th, 2010 at 12:11am And re- Libs minority government...my views are that they will form a majority well by the time the postal votes have finished being counted. The rate things are going.
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Re: Good PM's come to those who wait
Reply #26 - Aug 26^th, 2010 at 12:16am

deepthought wrote on Aug 26^th, 2010 at 12:01am:

Equitist wrote on Aug 25^th, 2010 at 11:52pm:

deepthought wrote on Aug 25^th, 2010 at 11:42pm:

Equitist wrote on Aug 25^th, 2010 at 11:31pm:

FFS, Mellie et al, it is only your fellow right whingers who have been arrogant enough to call this election one way or another . . .

You mean like this 'right whinger'?

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1282439836/0#0

OK, I concede that I ought to have not been so absolute - I've obviously been spending too much time with black/white-thinking right whingers...

Either way, can you prove me less than about 95% correct - on threads and/or individual posts!?

I believe there was certainly an explosion of effusive glee on Election Night. And, one may ask, why not?

To a right winger, and I am one, the last three years have been pretty bleak.

The polls as recently as three or four months ago held out little hope of a change of government, if they could have been believed.

Just a couple of weeks ago they tended to favour the GALP still.

The bookies had long odds on the coalition winning and the media for the most part believed the GALP would win.

Imagine the situation in reverse.

Then on Saturday night, the swing away from the GALP was almost total (what is wrong with Tasmanians?).

I fully understand the excitement.

Even now it appears that the coalition will be able to form a minority government with the support of just two Independents.

Funny how you lot claim that you have triumphed, by picking up 1.9% of the 5.4% of primary national votes lost by the Labs...

Oh, and the facts, that the Greens got 3.7% gain in national votes and there was an unusually high informal vote, should get you lot waking up to the message that the electorate is leaning further left while the dogmatic Libs are lurching further to the right...

Judging by comments here and elsewhere, that message is still being arrogantly ignored...

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mellie Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 8142 Sydney Gender:	Re: Good PM's come to those who wait Reply #27 - Aug 26^th, 2010 at 12:21am The fact is, despite the odds, concerning what Labor themselves described as being an unelectable opposition, what does this have to say for them? Well done to all ...but I shall maintain my stance that Libs have indeed won. We have a Green in the senate, so this is a good thing too, I'm not complaining.
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Re: Good PM's come to those who wait
Reply #28 - Aug 26^th, 2010 at 12:24am

Equitist wrote on Aug 26^th, 2010 at 12:16am:

Funny how you lot claim that you have triumphed, by picking up 1.9% of the 5.4% of primary national votes lost by the Labs...

Oh, and the facts, that the Greens got 3.7% gain in national votes and there was an unusually high informal vote, should get you lot waking up to the message that the electorate is leaning further left while the dogmatic Libs are lurching further to the right...

Judging by comments here and elsewhere, that message is still being arrogantly ignored...

Mere justification.

The reality is that Dawson, Bonner, Longman, Leichhardt, Flynn, Forde, Herbert, Dickson, Bennelong and Macquarie all slipped away and Brisbane, Hasluck and (possibly) Corangamite will wind up with the coalition too.

A source of delight?

You betcha.

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Re: Good PM's come to those who wait
Reply #29 - Aug 26^th, 2010 at 12:25am

deepthought wrote on Aug 26^th, 2010 at 12:24am:

Equitist wrote on Aug 26^th, 2010 at 12:16am:

Funny how you lot claim that you have triumphed, by picking up 1.9% of the 5.4% of primary national votes lost by the Labs...

Oh, and the facts, that the Greens got 3.7% gain in national votes and there was an unusually high informal vote, should get you lot waking up to the message that the electorate is leaning further left while the dogmatic Libs are lurching further to the right...

Judging by comments here and elsewhere, that message is still being arrogantly ignored...

Mere justification.

The reality is that Dawson, Bonner, Longman, Leichhardt, Flynn, Forde, Herbert, Dickson, Bennelong and Macquarie all slipped away and Brisbane, Hasluck and (possibly) Corangamite will wind up with the coalition too.

A source of delight?

You betcha.

Yes indeed.... I have to agree.

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