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Good PM's come to those who wait
Aug 25^th, 2010 at 10:47pm

Tony is just biding his time, with 2 seats still up for grabs, one in Brisbane, the other 'Corangamite', (Which is fast turning into a Liberal seat with the postal votes coming in)...this will make 74, without having to negotiate the terms of government between 3 Independents who are currently placing unusual demands on both party's leaders.

Labor are putting the pressure on because they know this, and are just hoping he cracks under pressure, before the final seats swing his way.

Hang-in there Tony, at least wait for the postal votes to reveal their count, or does a Labor government have intentions on intentionally drawing out this process for as long as it takes to allow a handful of crummy independents throw around their perceived weight, knowing full well they aren't the only defining factor in this election?

Liberal have 72 seats, Labor has 71...if these other two seats turn Liberal, before either party resolved to agree or disagree with the independents 7-point demands, then guess what happens...demands even Gillard herself readily admits she isn't sure she can meet, with her having to run her business by her own legal people first.

Ok for Gillard to take rain-checks, but not Abbott?

Lets see who gets the last 2 seats shall we.

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Reply #2 - Aug 25^th, 2010 at 11:01pm

We will know by September 3.

When the last of the absentee, postal votes are due to be counted.

Drag them out as long as you can Gillard, and pray Tony stuffs up between now and then...

I doubt he will, he's pacing himself quite well, this and not making any rash decisions or commitments, unlike your bold desperate self.

To the contrary, I wonder how many more MP's Labor will have 'cheesed' off by then?

If you will excuse my Corangamite pun.

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Labors seats are rather transient, I believe.

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Re: Good PM's come to those who wait
Reply #3 - Aug 25^th, 2010 at 11:03pm

mellie wrote on Aug 25^th, 2010 at 10:47pm:

Tony is just biding his time, with 2 seats still up for grabs, one in Brisbane, the other 'Corangamite', (Which is fast turning into a Liberal seat with the postal votes coming in)...this will make 74, without having to negotiate the terms of government between 3 Independents who are currently placing unusual demands on both party's leaders.

Labor are putting the pressure on because they know this, and are just hoping he cracks under pressure, before the final seats swing his way.

Hang-in there Tony, at least wait for the postal votes to reveal their count, or does a Labor government have intentions on intentionally drawing out this process for as long as it takes to allow a handful of crummy independents throw around their perceived weight, knowing full well they aren't the only defining factor in this election?

Liberal have 72 seats, Labor has 71...if these other two seats turn Liberal, before either party resolved to agree or disagree with the independents 7-point demands, then guess what happens...demands even Gillard herself readily admits she isn't sure she can meet, with her having to run her business by her own legal people first.

Ok for Gillard to take rain-checks, but not Abbott?

Lets see who gets the last 2 seats shall we.

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FFS, Mellie, there will be a minority Govt asnd the Independents are simply being responsibly proactive - by commencing preliminary negotiations, so as to limit the amount of time that the nation is under caretaker governance...

Even if the Libs or Labs scrape it over the line, they will remain remain vulnerable to the risks of the morbidity and mortality of every single Party/Coalition MP. So, they might as well enter into good faith negotiations with the Independents up-front - and undertake to implement improvements to a number of counter-productive current processes and procedures...

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Reply #4 - Aug 25^th, 2010 at 11:03pm

mad mod mozza - plse don't comment or delete here.
I don't like or trust you.

mel - Ironman abbott is playing this as perfectly as he played judas on her bugger up with hte debates.

can the alp run a minority govt against Tony ??
No way. if they get it, it'll collapse withim months.
Who will win the reelection, with a majority govt?

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Reply #5 - Aug 25^th, 2010 at 11:08pm

Equitist wrote on Aug 25^th, 2010 at 11:03pm:

mellie wrote on Aug 25^th, 2010 at 10:47pm:

Tony is just biding his time, with 2 seats still up for grabs, one in Brisbane, the other 'Corangamite', (Which is fast turning into a Liberal seat with the postal votes coming in)...this will make 74, without having to negotiate the terms of government between 3 Independents who are currently placing unusual demands on both party's leaders.

Labor are putting the pressure on because they know this, and are just hoping he cracks under pressure, before the final seats swing his way.

Hang-in there Tony, at least wait for the postal votes to reveal their count, or does a Labor government have intentions on intentionally drawing out this process for as long as it takes to allow a handful of crummy independents throw around their perceived weight, knowing full well they aren't the only defining factor in this election?

Liberal have 72 seats, Labor has 71...if these other two seats turn Liberal, before either party resolved to agree or disagree with the independents 7-point demands, then guess what happens...demands even Gillard herself readily admits she isn't sure she can meet, with her having to run her business by her own legal people first.

Ok for Gillard to take rain-checks, but not Abbott?

Lets see who gets the last 2 seats shall we.

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FFS, Mellie, the Independents are simply being proactive - and commence preliminary negotiations so as to limit the amount of time that the nation is under caretaker governance...

Even if the Libs or Labs scrape it over the line, they will remain remain vulnerable to the risks of the morbidity and mortality of every single Party/Coalition MP. So, they might as well enter into good faith negotiations with the Independents up-front - and undertake to implement improvements to a number of counter-productive current processes and procedures...

The independents should wait until after the last vote is counted.

... They shouldn't have even been rushed into the arena until after all votes had been counted, much less be swinging their weight around and barking 7-point orders.

Wont they look like stupid hay-stacks in the event what I predict occurs.

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...Don't count your chickens until they've hatched...wont they be in for a rude surprise when they cut their hick-noses off to spite their faces.

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Reply #7 - Aug 25^th, 2010 at 11:13pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Aug 25^th, 2010 at 11:09pm:

the independants are fkwts.

Shhhh, they don't know they are being expended by a Labor government yet, used as a door stop.

Shhh...lets not spoil the surprise... when Gillard thought nothing of toppling Rudd, imagine what trap-door awaits these poor deluded bastards.

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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Online OzPolitic Posts: 41598 Gender:	Re: Good PM's come to those who wait Reply #8 - Aug 25^th, 2010 at 11:21pm equit Quote: ..............and undertake to implement improvements to a number of counter-productive current processes and procedures... ........... owing to your protector mozzaok gagging me, I am strongly disinclined to chat with you. let alone consider disagreeing.
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Re: Good PM's come to those who wait
Reply #9 - Aug 25^th, 2010 at 11:21pm

I think it would be rather un-Australian to have decided upon any government without first having counted all postal votes, yes?

Or weren't these votes the votes Gillard had her stone-heart set on when pre-determining the fate of her house-of-cards?

I say we wait for the postal votes.

2 seats are looking more and more liberal by the day.

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Re: Good PM's come to those who wait
Reply #10 - Aug 25^th, 2010 at 11:26pm

Sprintcyclist wrote on Aug 25^th, 2010 at 11:21pm:

equit Quote:

..............and undertake to implement improvements to a number of counter-productive current processes and procedures...
...........

owing to your protector mozzaok gagging me, I am strongly disinclined to chat with you.
let alone consider disagreeing.

Aw c'mon SweetCheeks - lighten up and stop being such a sook!

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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Online OzPolitic Posts: 41598 Gender:	Re: Good PM's come to those who wait Reply #11 - Aug 25^th, 2010 at 11:31pm equit - mozzas a typical bad loser leftard. he's a lying cowardly bully just like judas. would you debate under such conditions?
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Re: Good PM's come to those who wait
Reply #12 - Aug 25^th, 2010 at 11:31pm

mellie wrote on Aug 25^th, 2010 at 11:21pm:

I think it would be rather un-Australian to have decided upon any government without first having counted all postal votes, yes?

Or weren't these votes the votes Gillard had her stone-heart set on when pre-determining the fate of her house-of-cards?

I say we wait for the postal votes.

2 seats are looking more and more liberal by the day.

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FFS, Mellie et al, it is only your fellow right whingers who have been arrogant enough to call this election one way or another - despite the fact that it has been known, since Saturday night, that one or more seats may come down to the wire...

What is known, is that:

* Triumphant Tony got a little too carried away on election night.

* One or more of the Independents will need to guarantee supply, in order of either of the LibLabs to form government - and therefore that the LibLabs will need to start playing fair and nice!

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Reply #13 - Aug 25^th, 2010 at 11:33pm

The peoples vote must come first, and with Gillard already trying to fast-track negotiations with the "Independents".... what is she saying?

The postal votes count for nothing as she like with dethroning our Queen, sets about making plans to lock-in "Independents" votes before the peoples are even finished being counted?

Think again.

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mellie Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 8142 Sydney Gender:	Re: Good PM's come to those who wait Reply #14 - Aug 25^th, 2010 at 11:34pm Thats 2 more seats!! ... one being almost certain, the other likely to swing Liberals way. Furthermore, the postal votes will need to be taken above that of any of the 7-point independents. Gillards lost the election, but she's still so trying....cute
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