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Re: Should Greens Have A Split How To Vote
Reply #15 - Aug 24^th, 2010 at 11:21am

Cyberman wrote on Aug 24^th, 2010 at 11:08am:

The Greens are the only ones screeching about preference deals being immoral yet they enter into them.

Hypocrisy, thy name is Greens

So now it's hypocrisy

yet if Greens don't forward a preference deal, they are breaking the election rules.

So Liberals will not change party preference laws ... while being critical of Greens keeping within the law.

If Greens broke the law over not supplying their preferences, would Liberals demand that the Greens be excluded from the election?

Some Liberal posters are crazy, no wonder they backed a side that lost the election.

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Re: Should Greens Have A Split How To Vote
Reply #16 - Aug 24^th, 2010 at 11:25am

These are the sort of people Greens preselect:

http://www.vexnews.com/news/10655/bandit-bandt-greens-party-poser-adam-bandt-pushes-pilfering-from-prosperous-and-pounces-on-800000-property/

So much for being “progressive” eh?

Why are we discussing if the Greens should have a split HTV? Are they not of “teh left” and if so what is the fuss about? Are they of “teh left” “teh progressive” when we see Brown suck up to the Libs big time?

Greens are leeches pure and simple.

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Cyberman Senior Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 391	Re: Should Greens Have A Split How To Vote Reply #17 - Aug 24^th, 2010 at 11:25am If the coalition are losers then what does that make the Greens with only 1 seat
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____ Moderator Offline Australian Politics Posts: 33410 Australia Gender:	Re: Should Greens Have A Split How To Vote Reply #18 - Aug 24^th, 2010 at 11:44am Cyberman wrote on Aug 24^th, 2010 at 11:25am: If the coalition are losers then what does that make the Greens with only 1 seat Better at maths ! Adam Bandt + 9 Senators = 10
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Re: Should Greens Have A Split How To Vote
Reply #19 - Aug 24^th, 2010 at 12:22pm

Sneaky sneaky..

http://dailybludge.com.au/2010/08/dirty-tricks/

Fake Green How to Vote Cards in Bennelong #electionWIRE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNZvUp-hinc&feature=player_embedded

Has this been properly reported by the mainstream media? Of course not. It is now clear that media bias in this country is out of control.

Our once independent ABC has now become a right-wing stable for News Limited hacks. The board is still stacked with conservatives from the Howard era. Most are up for reappointment next year. If Abbott is in control the same bias will remain or get even worse. We MUST join together to form a powerful progressive voice in this nation. We cannot rely on mainstream media to keep us informed.
Let’s join together as Progress Australians Against Tony Abbott! Please join the group and invite everyone on your contact list. If we can grow the group to 50,000 people or more we will have a solid basis from which we can keep people informed and organise as a progressive movement. Together we can do it!

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Re: Should Greens Have A Split How To Vote
Reply #20 - Aug 24^th, 2010 at 1:26pm

Quote:

Sneaky sneaky..

http://dailybludge.com.au/2010/08/dirty-tricks/

Fake Green How to Vote Cards in Bennelong #electionWIRE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNZvUp-hinc&feature=player_embedded

Has this been properly reported by the mainstream media? Of course not. It is now clear that media bias in this country is out of control.

Our once independent ABC has now become a right-wing stable for News Limited hacks. The board is still stacked with conservatives from the Howard era. Most are up for reappointment next year. If Abbott is in control the same bias will remain or get even worse. We MUST join together to form a powerful progressive voice in this nation. We cannot rely on mainstream media to keep us informed.
Let’s join together as Progress Australians Against Tony Abbott! Please join the group and invite everyone on your contact list. If we can grow the group to 50,000 people or more we will have a solid basis from which we can keep people informed and organise as a progressive movement. Together we can do it!

: Lips Sealed

They were just a bunch of ALP gays, so everyone mistook them for Greens

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Re: Should Greens Have A Split How To Vote
Reply #21 - Aug 24^th, 2010 at 2:19pm

aussiefree2ride wrote on Aug 24^th, 2010 at 1:26pm:

Quote:

Sneaky sneaky..

http://dailybludge.com.au/2010/08/dirty-tricks/

Fake Green How to Vote Cards in Bennelong #electionWIRE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNZvUp-hinc&feature=player_embedded

Has this been properly reported by the mainstream media? Of course not. It is now clear that media bias in this country is out of control.

Our once independent ABC has now become a right-wing stable for News Limited hacks. The board is still stacked with conservatives from the Howard era. Most are up for reappointment next year. If Abbott is in control the same bias will remain or get even worse. We MUST join together to form a powerful progressive voice in this nation. We cannot rely on mainstream media to keep us informed.
Let’s join together as Progress Australians Against Tony Abbott! Please join the group and invite everyone on your contact list. If we can grow the group to 50,000 people or more we will have a solid basis from which we can keep people informed and organise as a progressive movement. Together we can do it!

: Lips Sealed

They were just a bunch of ALP gays, so everyone mistook them for Greens

Another Liberal homophobe, Abbott would call you a good little sheeple.
When you read posts like yours is it any wonder the GREENS would not want to support the Liberals in government.

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vegitamite Ex Member	Re: Should Greens Have A Split How To Vote Reply #22 - Aug 24^th, 2010 at 3:10pm They were just a bunch of ALP gays, so everyone mistook them for Greens =================== I think there seems to be a little Liberal under tone in this....
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Re: Should Greens Have A Split How To Vote
Reply #23 - Aug 24^th, 2010 at 3:17pm

skippy. wrote on Aug 24^th, 2010 at 2:19pm:

aussiefree2ride wrote on Aug 24^th, 2010 at 1:26pm:

Quote:

Sneaky sneaky..

http://dailybludge.com.au/2010/08/dirty-tricks/

Fake Green How to Vote Cards in Bennelong #electionWIRE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNZvUp-hinc&feature=player_embedded

Has this been properly reported by the mainstream media? Of course not. It is now clear that media bias in this country is out of control.

Our once independent ABC has now become a right-wing stable for News Limited hacks. The board is still stacked with conservatives from the Howard era. Most are up for reappointment next year. If Abbott is in control the same bias will remain or get even worse. We MUST join together to form a powerful progressive voice in this nation. We cannot rely on mainstream media to keep us informed.
Let’s join together as Progress Australians Against Tony Abbott! Please join the group and invite everyone on your contact list. If we can grow the group to 50,000 people or more we will have a solid basis from which we can keep people informed and organise as a progressive movement. Together we can do it!

: Lips Sealed

They were just a bunch of ALP gays, so everyone mistook them for Greens

Another Liberal homophobe, Abbott would call you a good little sheeple.
When you read posts like yours is it any wonder the GREENS would not want to support the Liberals in government.

I'm not sure. I think aussie protests a little too much, you have to wonder. Come out of the closet aussie, we won't tell anyone, and you'll feel better for it.

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Re: Should Greens Have A Split How To Vote
Reply #24 - Aug 24^th, 2010 at 5:32pm

Why should the Greens split their how to vote cards? Does any other party split theirs?
The job of the Green Party is to represent the ideals of people who voted for them and to preference the party who will help them get as many members over the line, not to pander to parties like the Libs or Family First who put the Greens last on their tickets.
Lets face it...the old boys clubs of the corrupt ladder climbing union officials and the born to rule inbreeds and their backroom deals is fast coming to an end and future generations will wonder why we put up with these self serving, money draining, corrupt, dirt bags for so long

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Re: Should Greens Have A Split How To Vote
Reply #26 - Aug 24^th, 2010 at 8:39pm

Greens to introduce bill to strengthen democracy and end secret party deals on Senate preferences

A bill to end Senate preference deals by parties will be introduced into the Senate tomorrow by Australian Greens leader Bob Brown.
The Commonwealth Electoral (Above-the-Line Voting) Amendment Bill 2008 will allow voters to order parties by preference above-the-line in the Senate. At present voters wanting their own choice face the complex job of preferencing individual candidates, rather than parties, below-the-line. With this bill, voters will have the option of numbering the parties above the line in their order of choice, giving them control over the flow of preferences.

"This bill will strengthen our democracy by ensuring that all voters can choose their own line up of parties, rather than being locked into choices made in back room preference deals between parties. It empowers voters over parties," Senator Brown said.

http://bob-brown.greensmps.org.au/content/media-release/greens-introduce-bill-strengthen-democracy-and-end-secret-party-deals-senate-p

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Re: Should Greens Have A Split How To Vote
Reply #27 - Aug 24^th, 2010 at 9:17pm

OK. That is a good idea, and one I have suggested myself. But it is hardly revolutionary.

Is he also suggesting an end to above the line voting? ie, You now have to rank all parties and can no longer vote 1?

I would prefer people had all 3 options. Although it would confuse Queenslanders as voting 1 would mean something very different to the same thing in a state election.

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