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Should Greens Have A Split How To Vote
Aug 23^rd, 2010 at 11:31pm

Greens have done well, now the next step.

Greens require to engage Liberal Party and National Party supporters. For Greens to grow further faster.

Would splitting the Greens' How To Vote Card so voters have a preference of either voting Liberal above Labor or vise versa.

As a small l liberal, or a neo con, or a swing voter

would you use the Greens vote to send a message to your political candidates.

Reason I ask, prior to the election pro liberal posters condemned the Greens - Labor preference deal even though the Liberals voted with Labor against the Greens' Bill to end Party Preference Deals.

If Greens had a split ticket, would Liberals vote with the Greens to end party preference deals in this parliament when it forms.

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____ Moderator Offline Australian Politics Posts: 33410 Australia Gender:	Re: Should Greens Have A Split How To Vote Reply #1 - Aug 24^th, 2010 at 8:58am Have all the posters that where critical of the Greens-Labor preference deal lost their typing fingers?
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Re: Should Greens Have A Split How To Vote
Reply #2 - Aug 24^th, 2010 at 9:03am

The Greens are commies in disguise and will go last on any conservative ballot.

I would not use the greens to send a message to the major parties. The message needs to be sent to the Greens taht you are extremists whose views do not fit with the majority of voters and "sending a message" only enables the extremists to claim that voters support their extremist position

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muso Gold Member Offline Posts: 13151 Gladstone, Queensland Gender:	Re: Should Greens Have A Split How To Vote Reply #3 - Aug 24^th, 2010 at 9:04am On the rare occasion that I accept how to vote cards, I tear them up (all of them) and bin them.
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Re: Should Greens Have A Split How To Vote
Reply #4 - Aug 24^th, 2010 at 9:07am

Cyberman wrote on Aug 24^th, 2010 at 9:03am:

The Greens are commies in disguise and will go last on any conservative ballot.

I would not use the greens to send a message to the major parties. The message needs to be sent to the Greens taht you are extremists whose views do not fit with the majority of voters and "sending a message" only enables the extremists to claim that voters support their extremist position

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Cyberman Senior Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 391	Re: Should Greens Have A Split How To Vote Reply #5 - Aug 24^th, 2010 at 9:10am It will be good watching the greens suck the life out of labor, yet never managing to become a major player because civilised society rejects what they stand for.
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muso Gold Member Offline Posts: 13151 Gladstone, Queensland Gender:	Re: Should Greens Have A Split How To Vote Reply #6 - Aug 24^th, 2010 at 9:13am Green is supposed to be the opposite colour of red. That's where the Australian Greens get it wrong.
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Re: Should Greens Have A Split How To Vote
Reply #7 - Aug 24^th, 2010 at 9:15am

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would you use the Greens vote to send a message to your political candidates.

As much as I'm very pleased about the great result for the Greens - if we are forced into another election, they need to stop promoting the necessity of gay marriage and concentrate on the more important environmental issues, which is where their area of expertise lies.

They won't get their message across to anyone apart from a minority unless they promote more national and inclusive policies.

Gay marriage can be sorted out in July after they're secure in their Senate seats, but not at the moment while this election "victory" is still undecided.

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aussiefree2ride Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 3538	Re: Should Greens Have A Split How To Vote Reply #8 - Aug 24^th, 2010 at 9:29am ____ wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2010 at 11:31pm: If Greens had a split ticket, would Liberals vote with the Greens to end party preference deals in this parliament when it forms. Woody, the Greens prey on the simplest minds. Stick with the ALP.
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Re: Should Greens Have A Split How To Vote
Reply #9 - Aug 24^th, 2010 at 9:36am

aussiefree2ride wrote on Aug 24^th, 2010 at 9:29am:

Woody, the Greens prey on the simplest minds. Stick with the ALP.

"To be simple is to be great"

Those who support the Greens aren't simple, but they have to present their arguments simply in order for the Lib voters to comprehend. Unfortunately many of those who vote for the Libs can only understand basic slogans, rhetoric - and little else.

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Re: Should Greens Have A Split How To Vote
Reply #10 - Aug 24^th, 2010 at 9:42am

mantra wrote on Aug 24^th, 2010 at 9:36am:

aussiefree2ride wrote on Aug 24^th, 2010 at 9:29am:

Woody, the Greens prey on the simplest minds. Stick with the ALP.

"To be simple is to be great"

Those who support the Greens aren't simple, but they have to present their arguments simply in order for the Lib voters to comprehend. Unfortunately many of those who vote for the Libs can only understand basic slogans, rhetoric - and little else.

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Re: Should Greens Have A Split How To Vote
Reply #11 - Aug 24^th, 2010 at 10:03am

If the Greens genuinely want the end to preference deals then perhaps that should not enter into them themselves? talk about blatant hypocrisy! and when that preference deal is what possibly gives labor govt then their hypocrisy is magnified. If they understood the notion of 'principle' then they would act on it accordingly. But since preference deals will always be with us then the Greens either need to have asplit preference deal or forever be considered just another labor party. The Democrats understood the split ticket concept and it enabled them to hold considerable pwoer for 30 years. It was in fact only when they decided to become a left-wing party that they disintegrated.

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Re: Should Greens Have A Split How To Vote
Reply #12 - Aug 24^th, 2010 at 10:04am

longweekend58 wrote on Aug 24^th, 2010 at 10:03am:

If the Greens genuinely want the end to preference deals then perhaps that should not enter into them themselves? talk about blatant hypocrisy! and when that preference deal is what possibly gives labor govt then their hypocrisy is magnified. If they understood the notion of 'principle' then they would act on it accordingly. But since preference deals will always be with us then the Greens either need to have asplit preference deal or forever be considered just another labor party. The Democrats understood the split ticket concept and it enabled them to hold considerable pwoer for 30 years. It was in fact only when they decided to become a left-wing party that they disintegrated.

Yes, lets see if Bob Browns as genuine about ending preferences as he claims...

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Re: Should Greens Have A Split How To Vote
Reply #13 - Aug 24^th, 2010 at 10:22am

mellie wrote on Aug 24^th, 2010 at 10:04am:

longweekend58 wrote on Aug 24^th, 2010 at 10:03am:

If the Greens genuinely want the end to preference deals then perhaps that should not enter into them themselves? talk about blatant hypocrisy! and when that preference deal is what possibly gives labor govt then their hypocrisy is magnified. If they understood the notion of 'principle' then they would act on it accordingly. But since preference deals will always be with us then the Greens either need to have asplit preference deal or forever be considered just another labor party. The Democrats understood the split ticket concept and it enabled them to hold considerable pwoer for 30 years. It was in fact only when they decided to become a left-wing party that they disintegrated.

Yes, lets see if Bob Browns as genuine about ending preferences as he claims...

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So will the coalition side also vote to end party preference deals ... otherwise they have no ground to complain.

Have they the guts to stand up for their convictions ... or was all the huffing just political spin.

Vote with Greens to end party preference deals ... or never again complain about what preference deals Greens negotiate.

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Cyberman Senior Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 391	Re: Should Greens Have A Split How To Vote Reply #14 - Aug 24^th, 2010 at 11:08am The Greens are the only ones screeching about preference deals being immoral yet they enter into them. Hypocrisy, thy name is Greens
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