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Equitist Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 9632 NSW	Q&A post-election washup Aug 23^rd, 2010 at 9:36pm Just about to start in the Eastern States...
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Re: Q&A post-election washup
Reply #1 - Aug 23^rd, 2010 at 9:38pm

http://www.abc.net.au/tv/qanda/

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Tonight's panellists

* Mark Arbib - NSW Senator will not appear tonight, a comment from the PM

* Malcolm Turnbull - former Liberal leader

* Sarah Hanson-Young - Greens Senator

* Tony Windsor - Independent Member for New England

* Janet Albrechtsen - opinion columnist

* Graham Richardson - Labor identity

Hmmnnn...what's happened to Mark Arbib!?

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Dsmithy70 Gold Member Offline ire futuis vobismetipsis Posts: 13147 Newy Gender:	Re: Q&A post-election washup Reply #2 - Aug 23^rd, 2010 at 9:44pm Ordered off the show by Julia. Free kick for Mal as he's doing now Labors gone, bad look, gutless Big mistake
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Equitist Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 9632 NSW	Re: Q&A post-election washup Reply #3 - Aug 23^rd, 2010 at 9:46pm Dsmithy70 wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2010 at 9:44pm: Ordered off the show by Julia. Free kick for Mal as he's doing now Labors gone, bad look, gutless Big mistake Yer, and it might end up being an even bigger mistake, for the Libs to let media-hungry and wannabe President big Mal T loose in the political spotlight...
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Re: Q&A post-election washup
Reply #4 - Aug 23^rd, 2010 at 9:51pm

Equitist wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2010 at 9:46pm:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2010 at 9:44pm:

Ordered off the show by Julia.
Free kick for Mal as he's doing now
Labors gone, bad look, gutless
Big mistake Angry

Yer, and it might end up being an even bigger mistake, for the Libs to let media-hungry and wannabe President big Mal T loose in the political spotlight...

Crikey, did anyone hear what Turnbull just said!?

What a massive swipe at Abbott, eh!?

Looks like it's game on again for Mal!

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Dsmithy70 Gold Member Offline ire futuis vobismetipsis Posts: 13147 Newy Gender:	Re: Q&A post-election washup Reply #5 - Aug 23^rd, 2010 at 9:53pm Mal would be PM with a 10 seat majority If only the looney right could be broken
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Re: Q&A post-election washup
Reply #6 - Aug 23^rd, 2010 at 10:16pm

Hmmnnn....I reckon you could be right, Smithy...

Dsmithy70 wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2010 at 9:53pm:

Mal would be PM with a 10 seat majority
If only the looney right could be broken

Here's an extract that I posted elsewhere last night...

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According to the ABC's election web-site, these were the outcomes in each of the relevant wannabe Lib Leaders' seats...

http://www.abc.net.au/elections/federal/2010/guide/electorateresults.htm

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77.8% counted.

Last updated Sun Aug 22 01:32AM

Time Count % Electorate Held By Margin 2PP % Swing

Malcolm Turnbull
23:25 71.3 Wentworth L/NP 3.9 65.8 12.0% to LIB

Joe Hockey

21:23 72.9 North Sydney L/NP 5.5 64.8 9.3% to LIB

Tony Abbott
23:23 77.0 Warringah L/NP 8.8 63.8 5.0% to LIB

Who was/is the most popularly-elected of these 3 - certainly NOT Abbott!?

Moreover, Abbott only won the dodgy interim leadership spill by one vote and Joe Jockstrap wasn't even officially in the running...

Notwithstanding that these figures aren't totally up to date, they are fairly indicative of the trends and new status quo...

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Equitist Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 9632 NSW	Re: Q&A post-election washup Reply #7 - Aug 23^rd, 2010 at 10:33pm Crikey, the audience just gave a resounding endorsement, on the subject of mining moguls being able to pay more tax!
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Dsmithy70 Gold Member Offline ire futuis vobismetipsis Posts: 13147 Newy Gender:	Re: Q&A post-election washup Reply #8 - Aug 23^rd, 2010 at 10:37pm just quietly Mal looked a bit pissed LOL
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longweekend58 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 45675 Gender:	Re: Q&A post-election washup Reply #9 - Aug 23^rd, 2010 at 10:40pm Dsmithy70 wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2010 at 9:53pm: Mal would be PM with a 10 seat majority If only the looney right could be broken Hmmm I believe that experiment was tried and proved a dismal failure. Or does history never teach you laborites ANYTHING?
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longweekend58 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 45675 Gender:	Re: Q&A post-election washup Reply #10 - Aug 23^rd, 2010 at 10:42pm And while two are enjoying your mutual 'whatever it is' the election has aldready been held and your belover labor got flogged. less votes and less seats is hardly a ringing endorsement of labor.
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Re: Q&A post-election washup
Reply #11 - Aug 23^rd, 2010 at 10:46pm

longweekend58 wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2010 at 10:40pm:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2010 at 9:53pm:

Mal would be PM with a 10 seat majority
If only the looney right could be broken

Hmmm I believe that experiment was tried and proved a dismal failure. Or does history never teach you laborites ANYTHING?

LOL Longy yes we've been over that ground, and in that world you are correct.
But I think the result we got proves my asseration that if Hockey or Turnbull were leading the Liberals all those protest votes to greens would have gone to the liberals and therefore we'd have a Liberal government.
Tony was a surprise package and did well but could not overcome enough voters suspisions.
And just been reported on Lateline about Arbibs pulling, look out for tomorrows headlines, Bad move Julia.

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Re: Q&A post-election washup
Reply #12 - Aug 23^rd, 2010 at 10:49pm

longweekend58 wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2010 at 10:42pm:

And while two are enjoying your mutual 'whatever it is' the election has aldready been held and your belover labor got flogged. less votes and less seats is hardly a ringing endorsement of labor.

Why because I reject hard line conservatism do I automatically become a Labor supporter????
Yes I would prefer them in this choice but offer me a centralist be it left or even right leading the Liberals and I'll hand out how to vote cards.
Please don't try and tell me Tony is anywhere near the centre.

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Re: Q&A post-election washup
Reply #13 - Aug 23^rd, 2010 at 10:54pm

Dsmithy70 wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2010 at 10:46pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2010 at 10:40pm:

Dsmithy70 wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2010 at 9:53pm:

Mal would be PM with a 10 seat majority
If only the looney right could be broken

Hmmm I believe that experiment was tried and proved a dismal failure. Or does history never teach you laborites ANYTHING?

LOL Longy yes we've been over that ground, and in that world you are correct.
But I think the result we got proves my asseration that if Hockey or Turnbull were leading the Liberals all those protest votes to greens would have gone to the liberals and therefore we'd have a Liberal government.
Tony was a surprise package and did well but could not overcome enough voters suspisions.
And just been reported on Lateline about Arbibs pulling, look out for tomorrows headlines, Bad move Julia.

I dont think the result proves anything of the kind - in fact it proves the opposite. UNder Turnball, the margin was 16% 2PP. UNder Abbott it was reduced to 0.7% and probably government. ON what planet is that anything less than a truly stellar result and proof positive that Abbott was the better choice?

I know you two like turnball better than Abbott and that is your right. But it is not your right to use a preference to cloud a fact. I expect that kind of nonsense from nemesis but not from you dsmithy. For a laborite you do seem to let logic and facts run ahead of your partisanship - which is good.

The Turnball insanity that you two come up with sometimes is no more than a product of your dislike of Abbott. Liek whoever you want and dislike whoever else you like, but let your brain rule your heart. Abbott has probably won the most unlikely and stunning election victory in history. Your dislike of him doesnt change that.

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Cyberman Senior Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 391	Re: Q&A post-election washup Reply #14 - Aug 23^rd, 2010 at 10:58pm It wouldn't matter if Turnball was coalition leader. These two backslapping retards would rather see an incompetent labor/greens govt installed even if it means wrecking the country. The pretense of "ohh Malcy would have been better" is just that, a pretense from a couple of leftwing morons
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