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Reply #45 - Aug 23^rd, 2010 at 10:00pm

shampain socialist wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2010 at 9:57pm:

you better go tell Quentin Bryce...she's seeking legal advice.
You better check the historical emergency powers of the Crown when parliament or government cannot be formed.
If it cannot be resolved now or with repeated elections, an appointed Administration will be necessary.

And?.....
Is it a great surprise that the GG is seeking advice now, IN CASE it ends up as a hung parliment???

She's checking the options that are available.....if neither side can form a Government..

And that is exactly the correct action, at this time, and in this situation....

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Reply #46 - Aug 23^rd, 2010 at 10:02pm

It shouldn't come to this, but I would totally hate the queen having any say in who is to govern us!

We would HAVE to go back to the polls if it cannot be sorted. I refuse to be dictated to by Britain!!
Even the way things are, to be at the mercy of 3 independants like this doesn't seem to be a great idea to me.

These guys are mostly for their own electorates and not so much for the country as a whole, if 1 or 2 of them cross the floor over anything, no matter who they align with in the beginning, then we will end up with supply blocked and in a double dissolution, this could happen very easily as they are fundamentally not aligned to either party.

Kattell seems very concerned about flying bats up there, if he wants a mandate on flying bats and the gov who ends up in charge, says stuff ur flying bats, and the opposition says hey we hate flying bats as well, he will cross the floor and we will be in a mess again. lol!

I can see us returning to the polls within the year. IMO

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Reply #47 - Aug 23^rd, 2010 at 10:03pm

shampain socialist wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2010 at 9:59pm:

a president is not a monarch.
It remains to be seen whether a functioning parliament OR government can be formed. If an emergency situation arises...
bring in a military administration.

I think it might be you who thinks you are the expert. In that case, keep researching.

Then prove your point by referring to the constitution or a legal expert who agrees with you. If not, then you are just a pile of crap.

Ive now seen it all... here we have a first rate idiot BEGGING for a military government.

and i thought bill_crany and equitist were insane!

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NorthOfNorth Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 17258 Gender:	Re: Quentin Bryce is seeking advice Reply #48 - Aug 23^rd, 2010 at 10:03pm Quentin Bryce... seeking advice... That's the good sh!t about being the President of Nauru (If you're the President of Nauru) ... You're related to the entire friggin electorate.
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shampain socialist Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1004	Re: Quentin Bryce is seeking advice Reply #49 - Aug 23^rd, 2010 at 10:03pm "She's checking the options that are available.....if neither side can form a Government.." yes, that's right, and one of the options to be considered can be the appointment of an interim Administration from neither of the political parties. Who's left to fill that role?
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Reply #50 - Aug 23^rd, 2010 at 10:06pm

shampain socialist wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2010 at 10:03pm:

yes, that's right, and one of the options to be considered can be the appointment of an interim Administration from neither of the political parties. Who's left to fill that role?

One of the glories of a CONSTITUTIONAL democracy is that you dont say 'we cant make up our minds in 3 days so lets appoint someone to the role of dictator'.

But I guess thats what you want right? tanks on the street and machine guns on the corners and some admiral calling the shots in canberra?

are you stupid or what?

fortunately we have a better system in place - the same one we've used for dozens of elections over 109 years.

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Reply #51 - Aug 23^rd, 2010 at 10:09pm

you don't need tanks, howitzers and machine guns on the street. You just need someone to administer the country. If the constitutional democratic process can't get it done, it has failed and there needs to be an Administration appointed. Simple. Thankfully, there is a monarch to make that appointment.
You will not be dictated by Britain as someone said above, the Queen is Queen of Australia. Isn't that great!
Gough Whitlam, the great Labor luminary achieved that.

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Dsmithy70 Gold Member Offline ire futuis vobismetipsis Posts: 13147 Newy Gender:	Re: Quentin Bryce is seeking advice Reply #52 - Aug 23^rd, 2010 at 10:10pm Are we seriously discussing a military dictatorship. Are you guys nuts?????????? Careful what you wish for because the first people lined up against the wall are people unafraid to express an opinion and you'll notice all our ip's are logged here. You might get a midnight knock at the door.
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Reply #53 - Aug 23^rd, 2010 at 10:12pm

shampain socialist wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2010 at 10:09pm:

you don't need tanks, howitzers and machine guns on the street. You just need someone to administer the country. If the constitutional democratic process can't get it done, it has failed and there needs to be an Administration appointed. Simple. Thankfully, there is a monarch to make that appointment.
You will not be dictated by Britain as someone said above, the Queen is Queen of Australia. Isn't that great!
Gough Whitlam, the great Labor luminary achieved that.

You make the same mistake that other 3rd rate tinpot countries do. when their constitutions are inconvenient to the ruling party they just throw it out. the point in our democracy is that the constitution CANNOT be thrown out under any circumstances other than the majority vote of the people. your idea is probably the most dangerous thing Ive ever heard.

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Reply #54 - Aug 23^rd, 2010 at 10:13pm

what, a midnight knock at the door, like Kevin Rudd?

Look, a military (or any other) protectorate is NOT a dictatorship, it is an Administration appointed by the Monarch to see to order, functionality and national security until the democratic process can choose a functioning government. You can't run a country without a functioning parliament or government.

The most dangerous thing, weekend, would be to have Australia without a government in the event of a global economic and political meltdown. That appears to be imminent if you have been following informed analysis and commentary around the world. Australia is cushioned from all of that...one of only around three countries (Canada, New Zealand and ourselves) in that situation. Go to another country and see what is really happening.

America is our strongest ally. If they crash, and this appears very possible now, even likely, we are sitting here without a government.
You are kidding that that is not a dangerous situation.

If this cannot be sorted, we will need an Administration, preferably a military one.

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Reply #55 - Aug 23^rd, 2010 at 10:14pm

Dsmithy70 wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2010 at 10:10pm:

Are we seriously discussing a military dictatorship.
Are you guys nuts??????????
Careful what you wish for because the first people lined up against the wall are people unafraid to express an opinion and you'll notice all our ip's are logged here.
You might get a midnight knock at the door.

Fortunately there is only one idiot here handkering for a military govt. I stil dont know why. I keep asking. It isnt as if the country is at risk or falling apart inthe space of the 5 weeks we have already been under caretaker govt or the next week that wil take to get (hopefully) Abbott into the PM spot.

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Reply #56 - Aug 23^rd, 2010 at 10:16pm

shampain socialist wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2010 at 10:13pm:

what, a midnight knock at the door, like Kevin Rudd?

Look, a military (or any other) protectorate is NOT a dictatorship, it is an Administration appointed by the Monarch to see to order, functionality and national security until the democratic process can choose a functioning government. You can't run a country without a functioning parliament or government.

Do you not realise that we still have a government or do you disagree?

Whats the difference between a caretaker govt such as currently and a govt when parliament is not sitting? answer? NOTHING. there are conventions on behaviour but they are only guidelines and nothing more. and somehow we managaed to survive quite ok for 100+ years.

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Reply #57 - Aug 23^rd, 2010 at 10:18pm

The most dangerous thing, weekend, would be to have Australia without a government in the event of a global economic and political meltdown. That appears to be imminent if you have been following informed analysis and commentary around the world. Australia is cushioned from all of that...one of only around three countries (Canada, New Zealand and ourselves) in that situation. Go to another country and see what is really happening.

America is our strongest ally. If they crash, and this appears very possible now, even likely, we are sitting here without a government.
You are kidding that that is not a dangerous situation.

If this cannot be sorted, we will need an Administration, preferably a military one.

at present, we only have a long weak end.

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phantomlady Full Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 141 Gender:	Re: Quentin Bryce is seeking advice Reply #58 - Aug 23^rd, 2010 at 10:19pm lol @ the military! And a pox on the queen!!! We will go back to the polls and Gillard will stay in caretake mode till we vote again. Hopefully those idiots that drew penis's on their ballot papers will think a little clearer this time.
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Reply #59 - Aug 23^rd, 2010 at 10:20pm

shampain socialist wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2010 at 10:18pm:

The most dangerous thing, weekend, would be to have Australia without a government in the event of a global economic and political meltdown. That appears to be imminent if you have been following informed analysis and commentary around the world. Australia is cushioned from all of that...one of only around three countries (Canada, New Zealand and ourselves) in that situation. Go to another country and see what is really happening.

America is our strongest ally. If they crash, and this appears very possible now, even likely, we are sitting here without a government.
You are kidding that that is not a dangerous situation.

If this cannot be sorted, we will need an Administration, preferably a military one.

at present, we only have a long weak end.

You apparently lack the ability to read. we HAVE a government and have never been without one. What we have is a temporarily unresolved election result - nothing more. this will be resolved in short order.

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