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laborfornever

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So who won before preferences were distributed??
Aug 22^nd, 2010 at 4:28pm

I'd be interested to see what party won on a first past the post basis

IE who won before the preferences came into effect??

The way we vote is an absolute sham, tell me one comppany or organisation that elects its CEO on a preference system?? NOT ONE

Now we have the ridiculous assumption by Gillard that she should win because she got a higher 2PP vote and Abbott saying he should win cause libs got 500 000 votes more than labor.

Get rid of preferences and have a who get the most seats wins system.

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Re: So who won before preferences were distributed??
Reply #1 - Aug 22^nd, 2010 at 4:41pm

laborfornever wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2010 at 4:28pm:

I'd be interested to see what party won on a first past the post basis

IE who won before the preferences came into effect??

The way we vote is an absolute sham, tell me one comppany or organisation that elects its CEO on a preference system?? NOT ONE

Now we have the ridiculous assumption by Gillard that she should win because she got a higher 2PP vote and Abbott saying he should win cause libs got 500 000 votes more than labor.

Get rid of preferences and have a who get the most seats wins system.

while understanding your frustration with a system that frequently delivers victory to the candidiate that finishes second, I might point out that no company elects its CEO other than from a board vote of probably6-10 people. there is no comparison.

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Sprintcyclist Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 41567 Gender:	Re: So who won before preferences were distributed?? Reply #2 - Aug 22^nd, 2010 at 4:43pm the libs got about a 43% primary vote. alp - 36 ish %
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Re: So who won before preferences were distributed??
Reply #3 - Aug 22^nd, 2010 at 4:47pm

laborfornever wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2010 at 4:28pm:

I'd be interested to see what party won on a first past the post basis

IE who won before the preferences came into effect??

The way we vote is an absolute sham, tell me one comppany or organisation that elects its CEO on a preference system?? NOT ONE

Now we have the ridiculous assumption by Gillard that she should win because she got a higher 2PP vote and Abbott saying he should win cause libs got 500 000 votes more than labor.

Get rid of preferences and have a who get the most seats wins system.

Actually, companies DO use a form of preference vote...

On the first vote for a CEO, every board member can be nominated.....then the 2 or 3 with the biggest vote go on to the 2nd round....so the nominees with the 'lowest' vote pass their preferences to one of the remaining nominees..

Same system as 2PP...

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Re: So who won before preferences were distributed??
Reply #4 - Aug 22^nd, 2010 at 5:00pm

laborfornever wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2010 at 4:28pm:

I'd be interested to see what party won on a first past the post basis

IE who won before the preferences came into effect??

The way we vote is an absolute sham, tell me one comppany or organisation that elects its CEO on a preference system?? NOT ONE

Now we have the ridiculous assumption by Gillard that she should win because she got a higher 2PP vote and Abbott saying he should win cause libs got 500 000 votes more than labor.

Get rid of preferences and have a who get the most seats wins system.

I heard the British may adopt our system because it
gives minor parties - who still represent millions
of people - a greater say.

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Equitist Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 9632 NSW	Re: So who won before preferences were distributed?? Reply #6 - Aug 22^nd, 2010 at 5:07pm Also this: -
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gizmo_2655 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 16010 South West NSW Gender:	Re: So who won before preferences were distributed?? Reply #7 - Aug 22^nd, 2010 at 5:11pm Equitist wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2010 at 5:07pm: Also this: - Out of curiousity.....is the Liberal Nation Party of Queensland a part of the Federal Coalition???
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skippy. Gold Member Offline Posts: 20882 Gender:	Re: So who won before preferences were distributed?? Reply #8 - Aug 22^nd, 2010 at 5:13pm Interesting numbers Equitist, so if we go by what the Lib supporters have been saying all day, Labor should get to form gov. The biggest primary vote. The biggest TPP.
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Re: So who won before preferences were distributed??
Reply #9 - Aug 22^nd, 2010 at 5:17pm

skippy. wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2010 at 5:13pm:

Interesting numbers Equitist, so if we go by what the Lib supporters have been saying all day, Labor should get to form gov.
The biggest primary vote.
The biggest TPP.

hw dumb are you?? the coalition got 43.16% which by even leftard maths is still greater than 38%

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longweekend58 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 45675 Gender:	Re: So who won before preferences were distributed?? Reply #10 - Aug 22^nd, 2010 at 5:18pm gizmo_2655 wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2010 at 5:11pm: Equitist wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2010 at 5:07pm: Also this: - Out of curiousity.....is the Liberal Nation Party of Queensland a part of the Federal Coalition??? yes they are. the libs and nationals in QLD merged into one party.
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Re: So who won before preferences were distributed??
Reply #11 - Aug 22^nd, 2010 at 5:22pm

longweekend58 wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2010 at 5:17pm:

skippy. wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2010 at 5:13pm:

Interesting numbers Equitist, so if we go by what the Lib supporters have been saying all day, Labor should get to form gov.
The biggest primary vote.
The biggest TPP.

hw dumb are you?? the coalition got 43.16% which by even leftard maths is still greater than 38%

Look at the numbers, more people voted for Labor than the Lib/Nats.

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Re: So who won before preferences were distributed??
Reply #12 - Aug 22^nd, 2010 at 5:22pm

The coalition scored the highest primary vote Skip, meaning 'preferences and shoddy under-bench' deals aside, more Australians voted for Tony Abbott than they did Julia Gillard.

I think it is clear, if Julia Gillard wins the election on the basis of 'preferences' we are no longer a democracy.

Will become a communist Labia republic bank-rolled by Jews.

Australians didn't vote for this!

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Re: So who won before preferences were distributed??
Reply #13 - Aug 22^nd, 2010 at 5:29pm

skippy. wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2010 at 5:22pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2010 at 5:17pm:

skippy. wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2010 at 5:13pm:

Interesting numbers Equitist, so if we go by what the Lib supporters have been saying all day, Labor should get to form gov.
The biggest primary vote.
The biggest TPP.

hw dumb are you?? the coalition got 43.16% which by even leftard maths is still greater than 38%

Look at the numbers, more people voted for Labor than the Lib/Nats.

You claim to be a political science student if I remember rightly. Obviously the lessons arent' taking'. try and get a REAL education on our political system you leftard moron. The coalition got 500,000 more votes than labor and no intelligent person says otherwise.

Your sore-loser attitude is pretty lame.

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Re: So who won before preferences were distributed??
Reply #14 - Aug 22^nd, 2010 at 5:30pm

mellie wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2010 at 5:22pm:

The coalition scored the highest primary vote Skip, meaning 'preferences and shoddy under-bench' deals aside, more Australians voted for Tony Abbott than they did Julia Gillard.

I think it is clear, if Julia Gillard wins the election on the basis of 'preferences' we are no longer a democracy.

Will become a communist Labia republic bank-rolled by Jews.

Australians didn't vote for this!

TPP Labor 50.67
Coalition 43.30

First pref Labor 3 996328
Lib 3 145441
Nat 401 776

Do you know what 3 145 441+ 401 776=?

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