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Re: Sick of the Lefttards playing the race card?
Reply #30 - Aug 22nd, 2010 at 1:55pm
 
aussiefree2ride wrote on Aug 22nd, 2010 at 1:49pm:
I agree 100%, we should only be taking in limited numbers, and ONLY people from compatible backgrounds.  I don`t care tf they`re black, brown, green, or yellow, providing they don`t pose a future threat to stability and internal peace.

Are you going to define 'compatible backgrounds' and what you mean by 'a future threat to stability and internal peace' (as if anyone advocates immigration by those who do pose those threats)., such that you're clearly not referring to those 'black, brown, green, or yellow' (always like the inclusion of a non-racial colour... an attempt at feigning racial colour-blindness).

You're a dog whistling liar.
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Re: Sick of the Lefttards playing the race card?
Reply #31 - Aug 22nd, 2010 at 1:57pm
 
I don't want anybody to "disappear". Merely immigration to be brought near to a grinding halt. The totterring, ricketty edifice we've put together over the past thirty or forty years, that tower of guilt-mongering, endless special pleading and tedious, petty, identity politics, simply needs to be deconstructed and put to death. Ordinary Australians are sick to death of it.

Bringing up the Holocaust is just cheap.

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Are you going to define 'compatible backgrounds' and what you mean by 'a future threat to stability and internal peace' (as if anyone advocates immigration by those who do pose those threats).

You're a dog whistling liar.


I have a feeling he feels the same way I do. I wish more people would just be honest about this sort of thing. There's no shame in it.
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Re: Sick of the Lefttards playing the race card?
Reply #32 - Aug 22nd, 2010 at 1:58pm
 
NorthOfNorth wrote on Aug 22nd, 2010 at 1:55pm:
aussiefree2ride wrote on Aug 22nd, 2010 at 1:49pm:
I agree 100%, we should only be taking in limited numbers, and ONLY people from compatible backgrounds.  I don`t care tf they`re black, brown, green, or yellow, providing they don`t pose a future threat to stability and internal peace.

Are you going to define 'compatible backgrounds' and what you mean by 'a future threat to stability and internal peace' (as if anyone advocates immigration by those who do pose those threats).

You're a dog whistling liar.



And you are a silly as a wet dream if you can`t understand the simplest statement.
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Re: Sick of the Lefttards playing the race card?
Reply #33 - Aug 22nd, 2010 at 2:03pm
 
aikmann4 wrote on Aug 22nd, 2010 at 1:57pm:
I don't want anybody to "disappear". Merely immigration to be brought near to a grinding halt. The totterring, ricketty edifice we've put together over the past thirty or forty years, that tower of guilt-mongering, endless special pleading and tedious petty, identity politics, simply needs to be deconstructed and put to death. Ordinary Australians are sick to death of it.

Bringing up the Holocaust is just cheap.

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Are you going to define 'compatible backgrounds' and what you mean by 'a future threat to stability and internal peace' (as if anyone advocates immigration by those who do pose those threats).

You're a dog whistling liar.


I have a feeling he feels the same way I do. I wish more people would just be honest about this sort of thing. There's no shame in it.



Thank you Imp, I just want the best future for Australia.
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Re: Sick of the Lefttards playing the race card?
Reply #34 - Aug 22nd, 2010 at 2:06pm
 
I want the best for my family, my extended family, my ethnic interests and my nation. All matter to me; and none are entirely separate from each other.
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Reply #35 - Aug 22nd, 2010 at 2:08pm
 
aikmann4 wrote on Aug 22nd, 2010 at 2:06pm:
I want the best for my family, my extended family, my ethnic interests and my nation. All matter to me; and none are entirely separate from each other.



That`s it.
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Re: Sick of the Lefttards playing the race card?
Reply #36 - Aug 22nd, 2010 at 2:08pm
 
aikmann4 wrote on Aug 22nd, 2010 at 1:57pm:
I don't want anybody to "disappear". Merely immigration to be brought near to a grinding halt. The totterring, ricketty edifice we've put together over the past thirty or forty years, that tower of guilt-mongering, endless special pleading and tedious petty, identity politics, simply needs to be deconstructed and put to death. Ordinary Australians are sick to death of it.

Bringing up the Holocaust is just cheap.

Read biographies of Germans who found themselves culpable by their silence... They were driven initially not by fear of Nazis, but by the more innate and culturally ancient fears of anti-Semitism and xenophobia. They certainly did not advocate violence or the forced removal of anyone... But wouldn't it be nice if 'the others' just one day weren't there.

Our propensity towards passivity in the face of injustice is founded on what frightens us... In that respect our greatest moral enemy is fear itself.
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Re: Sick of the Lefttards playing the race card?
Reply #37 - Aug 22nd, 2010 at 2:09pm
 
aussiefree2ride wrote on Aug 22nd, 2010 at 1:58pm:
NorthOfNorth wrote on Aug 22nd, 2010 at 1:55pm:
aussiefree2ride wrote on Aug 22nd, 2010 at 1:49pm:
I agree 100%, we should only be taking in limited numbers, and ONLY people from compatible backgrounds.  I don`t care tf they`re black, brown, green, or yellow, providing they don`t pose a future threat to stability and internal peace.

Are you going to define 'compatible backgrounds' and what you mean by 'a future threat to stability and internal peace' (as if anyone advocates immigration by those who do pose those threats).

You're a dog whistling liar.



And you are a silly as a wet dream if you can`t understand the simplest statement.

No definitions then?

Of course not. They would undermine the point of dog whistling.
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Re: Sick of the Lefttards playing the race card?
Reply #38 - Aug 22nd, 2010 at 2:15pm
 
NorthOfNorth wrote on Aug 22nd, 2010 at 2:09pm:
aussiefree2ride wrote on Aug 22nd, 2010 at 1:58pm:
NorthOfNorth wrote on Aug 22nd, 2010 at 1:55pm:
aussiefree2ride wrote on Aug 22nd, 2010 at 1:49pm:
I agree 100%, we should only be taking in limited numbers, and ONLY people from compatible backgrounds.  I don`t care tf they`re black, brown, green, or yellow, providing they don`t pose a future threat to stability and internal peace.

Are you going to define 'compatible backgrounds' and what you mean by 'a future threat to stability and internal peace' (as if anyone advocates immigration by those who do pose those threats).

You're a dog whistling liar.



And you are a silly as a wet dream if you can`t understand the simplest statement.

No definitions then?

Of course not. They would undermine the point of dog whistling.


Buy a dictionary, work it out for yourself.
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Re: Sick of the Lefttards playing the race card?
Reply #39 - Aug 22nd, 2010 at 2:22pm
 
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Read biographies of Germans who found themselves culpable by their silence... They were driven initially not by fear of Nazis, but by the more innate and culturally ancient fears of anti-Semitism and xenophobia. They certainly did not advocate violence or the forced removal of anyone... But wouldn't it be nice if 'the others' just one day weren't there.

Our propensity towards passivity in the face of injustice is founded on what frightens us... In that respect our greatest moral enemy is fear itself.


I don't know how this relates to what I'm saying at all. All political views and attitudes can be abused in some way; I'm not suggesting that what I desire can't potentitally be very harmful.. but only a naive person could hold an opinion and not think that it couldn't be potentially harmful. When I attempted to distinguish myself from "Macca & Dave" I meant that my opinions are motivated by things beyond a mere visceral, emotional fear and dislike of foreigners (not that "Macca & Dave" are entirely like that either).

I could never support the ascension of a demagogue or tyrant like those of the last century; but attempting to slander every single politician who attempts to address or stand up for sentiments like those of "Macca & Dave" as potential little Hitlers goes too far and is unfair. Hitler made his views explicit from day one -- everything he was going to do in the Second World War was spelled out in capital letters in Mein Kampf. Anti-immigration, nationalist commentators like Jared Taylor, Steve Sailer, etc don't resemble Hitler in the slightest. Yet they are treated as if they do every time the media talks about them. I stopped buying into the rhetoric a long time ago.
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Re: Sick of the Lefttards playing the race card?
Reply #40 - Aug 22nd, 2010 at 2:31pm
 
aussiefree2ride wrote on Aug 22nd, 2010 at 2:15pm:
NorthOfNorth wrote on Aug 22nd, 2010 at 2:09pm:
aussiefree2ride wrote on Aug 22nd, 2010 at 1:58pm:
NorthOfNorth wrote on Aug 22nd, 2010 at 1:55pm:
aussiefree2ride wrote on Aug 22nd, 2010 at 1:49pm:
I agree 100%, we should only be taking in limited numbers, and ONLY people from compatible backgrounds.  I don`t care tf they`re black, brown, green, or yellow, providing they don`t pose a future threat to stability and internal peace.

Are you going to define 'compatible backgrounds' and what you mean by 'a future threat to stability and internal peace' (as if anyone advocates immigration by those who do pose those threats).

You're a dog whistling liar.



And you are a silly as a wet dream if you can`t understand the simplest statement.

No definitions then?

Of course not. They would undermine the point of dog whistling.


Buy a dictionary, work it out for yourself.

A petulant spat... What a surprise  Roll Eyes

Duplicitous rhetoric, undefined emotive terms designed to evoke fears of destruction within an atmosphere of paranoia - a sense of invasion by the alien - You are the worst kind of liar... One who would deter us from further developing a sense of self-confidence, founded on courage, by appealing to our basest insecurities.
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Re: Sick of the Lefttards playing the race card?
Reply #41 - Aug 22nd, 2010 at 2:33pm
 
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Reply #42 - Aug 22nd, 2010 at 2:36pm
 
aikmann4 wrote on Aug 22nd, 2010 at 2:22pm:
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Read biographies of Germans who found themselves culpable by their silence... They were driven initially not by fear of Nazis, but by the more innate and culturally ancient fears of anti-Semitism and xenophobia. They certainly did not advocate violence or the forced removal of anyone... But wouldn't it be nice if 'the others' just one day weren't there.

Our propensity towards passivity in the face of injustice is founded on what frightens us... In that respect our greatest moral enemy is fear itself.


I don't know how this relates to what I'm saying at all. All political views and attitudes can be abused in some way; I'm not suggesting that what I desire can't potentitally be very harmful.. but only a naive person could hold an opinion and not think that it couldn't be potentially harmful. When I attempted to distinguish myself from "Macca & Dave" I meant that my opinions are motivated by things beyond a mere visceral, emotional fear and dislike of foreigners (not that "Macca & Dave" are entirely like that either).

I could never support the ascension of a demagogue or tyrant like those of the last century; but attempting to slander every single politician who attempts to address or stand up for sentiments like those of "Macca & Dave" as potential little Hitlers goes too far and is unfair. Hitler made his views explicit from day one -- everything he was going to do in the Second World War was spelled out in capital letters in Mein Kampf. Anti-immigration, nationalist commentators like Jared Taylor, Steve Sailer etc don't resemble Hitler in the slightest. Yet they are treated as if they do every time the media talks about them. I stopped buying into the rhetoric a long time ago.

Then why, exactly, are you "just sick of non-white immigrants and immigrants in general".

Do you not intuit any fraternity with those 1920's Germans who were just sick of Jews, Gypsies and auslanders in general?
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Re: Sick of the Lefttards playing the race card?
Reply #43 - Aug 22nd, 2010 at 2:43pm
 
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Then why, exactly, are you "just sick of non-white immigrants and immigrants in general".


I've been meaning to write it out actually. I've been constructing a site over the past several months that explains all the nuances of my views, but it'll take a while to finish.

I'm not up to that bit yet. If somebody here has access to JSTOR or any other academic database please private message me.

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Do you not intuit any fraternity with those 1920's Germans who were just sick of Jews, Gypsies and auslanders in general?


I do. That doesn't necessarily mean that I desire the same thing as Hitler did. And I don't think any Australian and "anti-boater" does either. This does not mean however that the views of said Germans were exactly founded upon anything substantial; but this does not mean that it logically follows that my, or anybody else's views of the present day, are likewise without founding.

Maybe you should think about what the people who run this country desire for us; they're not exactly benign forces either. The people who ridicule the supposed xenophobes and "white trash" (a term you love and use so contemptuously all the time) disgust me to a great extent at times.
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Re: Sick of the Lefttards playing the race card?
Reply #44 - Aug 22nd, 2010 at 2:51pm
 
aikmann4 wrote on Aug 22nd, 2010 at 2:43pm:
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Then why, exactly, are you "just sick of non-white immigrants and immigrants in general".


I've been meaning to write it out actually. I've been constructing a site over the past several months that explains all the nuances of my views, but it'll take a while to finish.

I'm not up to that bit yet.

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Do you not intuit any fraternity with those 1920's Germans who were just sick of Jews, Gypsies and auslanders in general?


I do. That doesn't necessarily mean that I desire the same thing as Hitler did. And I don't think any Australian and "anti-boater" does either.

Maybe you should think about what the people who run this country desire for us; they're not exactly benign forces either. The people who ridicule the supposed xenophobes and "white trash" (a term you love and use so contemptuously all the time) disgust me to a great extent at times.

More to the point... Maybe we should all think why it is that people who run this country think the way they do. Our politicians reflect back at us what they believe we are projecting.

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I do. That doesn't necessarily mean that I desire the same thing as Hitler did. And I don't think any Australian and "anti-boater" does either.

And neither did 99% of 1920's Germans who were sick of Jews, I'd bet... And yet...



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