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Reply #15 - Aug 22^nd, 2010 at 5:44pm

mozzaok wrote on Aug 21^st, 2010 at 10:54pm:

It is still possible Labor may hold on to win enough seats on it's own, but a Labor government supported by the Greens is more likely.

If that happens it will produce the best government we could have, because we will then see a real policy to address climate change developed, and we will also see Labor step back from their copying of Abbott's sick xenophobic policies against refugees, and a return to a caring government not ashamed to show compassion to those most in need.

If this happens, it will be a wipeout for Labor/Greens at the next election. It will be 1975 without the dismissal.

Mozz, labelling concerns about boats as xenophobic is a recipe for electoral disaster for the Left. There is much less resistance to orderlty migration for Australia's benefit than to hundreds of boatloads a year of undocumented people who can obviously afford thousans of dollars to bypass the orderly immigraion process.

To trumpet that those who can tell the difference between migration and people smuggling are xenophobic is malicious and stupid. Don't go that way.

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Vanessa Senior Member Offline Ranga Rock Chick Posts: 301 Somewhere In The Real World Gender:	Re: coalition is going to lose lol Reply #16 - Aug 22^nd, 2010 at 5:47pm If the idiots in this country vote for big ears, I will leave the country. I buggerin' hate Liberals, they are so dumb.
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aikmann4 Gold Member Offline Posts: 2093 canberra	Re: coalition is going to lose lol Reply #17 - Aug 22^nd, 2010 at 5:52pm Good, leave. Move to some overseas multicultural paradise like India or Sudan; everybody is tolerant in these places because there are no white people.
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gizmo_2655 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 16010 South West NSW Gender:	Re: coalition is going to lose lol Reply #18 - Aug 22^nd, 2010 at 5:54pm Well me personally, I'm going to wait until the final count, and see WHO forms a Government...
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Reply #19 - Aug 22^nd, 2010 at 5:57pm

mozzaok wrote on Aug 21^st, 2010 at 10:54pm:

Soren's prediction looks the most likely, but the truth is that we may not know who will form a government for a week or more, with so many seats going down to very, very small margins.

One panelist on 9 made the comment that if we see a minority government formed we may see a more civilised atmosphere develop in our political system, and I must say that after seeing the plethora of extremist views expressed in this forum recently, that would be a good change to witness.

It is still possible Labor may hold on to win enough seats on it's own, but a Labor government supported by the Greens is more likely.

If that happens it will produce the best government we could have, because we will then see a real policy to address climate change developed, and we will also see Labor step back from their copying of Abbott's sick xenophobic policies against refugees, and a return to a caring government not ashamed to show compassion to those most in need.

Go Greens, you did awesomely well.

I hope the Libs just keep drifting further right until they make themselves as electiorally unpalatable as their coalition partners, the Nationals.

Isn't the Government formed in the House of Reps????

If so, what difference does 1 Greens rep make??

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It's similar to a strawman fallacy"
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Reply #20 - Aug 22^nd, 2010 at 5:58pm

hahahaha nope, a labor/indy minority government will be the result.

The Rudd/Gillard govt was competent: we have 5% unemployment compared to double/treble that elsewhere.

The NBN will be built and transform the economy.

An ETS will also be introduced—negotiated between Labor & Coalition. the MRRT will also go ahead, negotiated Labor-Greens (in Senate.) thus everyone will be enmeshed and share responsibility with Labor seen as a clear leader.

just as well Labor will still be the govt, anyone seriously want the endorphin addict Abbott and the buffoon Hockey controlling the economy when the Long Depression clamps down worldwide? Seriously?

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Del_has_returned Senior Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 288	Re: coalition is going to lose lol Reply #21 - Aug 22^nd, 2010 at 5:59pm Vanessa wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2010 at 5:47pm: If the idiots in this country vote for big ears, I will leave the country. I buggerin' hate Liberals, they are so dumb. And you're a budding Einstien eh........
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Reply #22 - Aug 22^nd, 2010 at 6:02pm

Soren wrote on Aug 21^st, 2010 at 9:59pm:

Labor will form government with the Greens/Wilkes. This means they are buggered. They will have to go left and that will be the end of them.
After the next election we will have another 12 years of conservative government.

I think you're right. It looks like Labor's days are numbered. They've reached a point of no return, popularity wise.

The Libs have to stuff-up big time to see them lose the next election.

I doubt we'll see a move to the left though. The current Labor cabinet is quite conservative, Gillard included. I doubt the Greens will get their way - many of the independants are Nationals.

What we're more likely to see is nothing happening for 3 years - and by nothing, I mean nothing. The Greens and Independants won't like Labor's assylum-seeker policies. Gillard's already put off the ETS. Broadband rollout is about all that will get up.

These are the flagship policies, however. Quietly, other things might get through. But with so many independants, initiatives will leak. This fact alone will make governing very difficult, and politically, I doubt very much that Labor will survive it.

They will need a miracle next time round.

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Deborahmac09 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1619	Re: coalition is going to lose lol Reply #23 - Aug 22^nd, 2010 at 6:03pm Vanessa wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2010 at 5:47pm: If the idiots in this country vote for big ears, I will leave the country. I buggerin' hate Liberals, they are so dumb. Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.
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Reply #24 - Aug 22^nd, 2010 at 6:10pm

heh, one of the stupidest, cringe-inducing Libs got booted out of Parliament: come on, any Lib no matter how diehard must be relieved one clown less in your ranks? Wilson Tuckey, 30 years in Parliament, not even Howard, not noted for demanding high standards of his Ministers, put up with Tuckey as a junior Minister for long Grin

Of course, the Lib ranks are still studded with duds and non performers!

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Soren Gold Member Offline Posts: 25654 Gender:	Re: coalition is going to lose lol Reply #25 - Aug 22^nd, 2010 at 6:52pm Vanessa wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2010 at 5:47pm: If the idiots in this country vote for big ears, I will leave the country. I buggerin' hate Liberals, they are so dumb. You are just saying this to strut your Emotional Correctness.
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Reply #26 - Aug 22^nd, 2010 at 6:57pm

Darwin wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2010 at 5:58pm:

just as well Labor will still be the govt, anyone seriously want the endorphin addict Abbott and the buffoon Hockey controlling the economy when the Long Depression clamps down worldwide? Seriously?

the sadist in me actually would like to see a Liberal government in charge during economically difficult times.
It would finally and emphatically put the "Better economic mangers" to bed.

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Reply #27 - Aug 22^nd, 2010 at 7:09pm

Dsmithy70 wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2010 at 6:57pm:

the sadist in me actually would like to see a Liberal government in charge during economically difficult times.
It would finally and emphatically put the "Better economic mangers" to bed.

Well we've certainly seen what an unmitigated disaster Labor are economically when challenges arise eh?

How much is that debt again?

$100m of interest every day?

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Reply #28 - Aug 22^nd, 2010 at 7:11pm

Dsmithy70 wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2010 at 6:57pm:

the sadist in me actually would like to see a Liberal government in charge during economically difficult times.
It would finally and emphatically put the "Better economic mangers" to bed.

Completely off-topic Smithy but in regard to your avatar.
Dave Prowse, the guy who played Darth Vader, was not allowed into my uncle's gang at school back in the 50's. Grin

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Reply #29 - Aug 22^nd, 2010 at 7:39pm

Dsmithy70 wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2010 at 6:57pm:

Darwin wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2010 at 5:58pm:

just as well Labor will still be the govt, anyone seriously want the endorphin addict Abbott and the buffoon Hockey controlling the economy when the Long Depression clamps down worldwide? Seriously?

the sadist in me actually would like to see a Liberal government in charge during economically difficult times.
It would finally and emphatically put the "Better economic mangers" to bed.

Indeed, giving the Lib attack-dogs enough rope, in the short term, might be the best way to go for the longer term...

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