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Aug 20th, 2010 at 9:39pm
 
Dear Sir/Madam.

The article “Government does not help the rich get richer” AFR 18’th Aug.2010 page 33 should not go unchallenged.

Take retiree: 1)
Worked for 45 years and paid taxes, but did not accumulate enough assets to be completely independent of the age-pension. For every dollar of extra income for him and his wife above $6,500, the couple loses $0.50 of age pension, and if their income exceeds $45,000 per annum, the couple will pay tax of $0.315 in the dollar including medicare levy, leaving them with an income of $0.185 from every dollar extra income. For the defined benefit income a 10% tax-offset applies if paid from an Australian super fund, but not if the income comes from an overseas fund.

[b][b]Retiree 2)[/b][/b]
Has accumulated assets of $1.5million and the assets are in a so-called taxed Self Managed Super Fund. To be very conservative, the assets are in a term deposit earning 7.0% income of $122,500 per annum and even if the retiree is single, he/she will not pay a cent of tax.
Now if the assets are in fully franked shares, like banks and return $100,000 worth of franked dividends, he/she will again pay no tax on the dividend, and the government will send him/her a cheque of $30,000 for the franking credits.

Retiree 3)
Is an ex-politician or highly paid public servant, in receipt of a defined benefit pension of $100,000, on which he/she will have to pay tax, but he/she gets a 10% tax offset, which equals %10,000 after reaching retirement age, but before retiring, the public servant can establish a SMSF and contribute into it extra with tax concessions if the $25,000 total for under fifty and $50,000, if over fifty is not exceeded and in addition he/she can contribute $150,000 from after tax income, and the earnings from the SMSF will only attract 15% tax, and when the person reaches the age of 60 even the income will be completely tax-free from the SMSF.
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The figures are partly explained by market volatility, especially the huge losses during the initial stages of the global financial crisis, and by poor investment decisions on the part of superannuation funds managers. Just as importantly though, the risible returns are all that is left over once investment advisors and fund managers, including trade union bureaucrats, take their hefty slice. A staggering $A17 billion in fees—or $48 million per day—is siphoned off each year from workers’ savings. As the ABC pointed out, this sum alone would be sufficient to fund the entire Australian old age pension system. Yet none of the major parties—Labor, Liberal or the Greens—has commented on these extraordinary figures during the current election campaign, much less on the question of old age incomes more generally.

What Ken Henry should have recommended is, abolish all tax concessions for super, abolish the means test for the age pension so that even millionaires get the full pension, but then the retirees should pay the same tax as do the workers.

Yours truly
Mr.W.Hawil
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Reply #1 - Aug 20th, 2010 at 9:54pm
 

hawil wrote on Aug 20th, 2010 at 9:39pm:
Dear Sir/Madam.

The article “Government does not help the rich get richer” AFR 18’th Aug.2010 page 33 should not go unchallenged.

Take retiree: 1)
Worked for 45 years and paid taxes, but did not accumulate enough assets to be completely independent of the age-pension. For every dollar of extra income for him and his wife above $6,500, the couple loses $0.50 of age pension, and if their income exceeds $45,000 per annum, the couple will pay tax of $0.315 in the dollar including medicare levy, leaving them with an income of $0.185 from every dollar extra income. For the defined benefit income a 10% tax-offset applies if paid from an Australian super fund, but not if the income comes from an overseas fund.

[b][b]Retiree 2)[/b][/b]
Has accumulated assets of $1.5million and the assets are in a so-called taxed Self Managed Super Fund. To be very conservative, the assets are in a term deposit earning 7.0% income of $122,500 per annum and even if the retiree is single, he/she will not pay a cent of tax.
Now if the assets are in fully franked shares, like banks and return $100,000 worth of franked dividends, he/she will again pay no tax on the dividend, and the government will send him/her a cheque of $30,000 for the franking credits.

Retiree 3)
Is an ex-politician or highly paid public servant, in receipt of a defined benefit pension of $100,000, on which he/she will have to pay tax, but he/she gets a 10% tax offset, which equals %10,000 after reaching retirement age, but before retiring, the public servant can establish a SMSF and contribute into it extra with tax concessions if the $25,000 total for under fifty and $50,000, if over fifty is not exceeded and in addition he/she can contribute $150,000 from after tax income, and the earnings from the SMSF will only attract 15% tax, and when the person reaches the age of 60 even the income will be completely tax-free from the SMSF.
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The figures are partly explained by market volatility, especially the huge losses during the initial stages of the global financial crisis, and by poor investment decisions on the part of superannuation funds managers. Just as importantly though, the risible returns are all that is left over once investment advisors and fund managers, including trade union bureaucrats, take their hefty slice. A staggering $A17 billion in fees—or $48 million per day—is siphoned off each year from workers’ savings. As the ABC pointed out, this sum alone would be sufficient to fund the entire Australian old age pension system. Yet none of the major parties—Labor, Liberal or the Greens—has commented on these extraordinary figures during the current election campaign, much less on the question of old age incomes more generally.

What Ken Henry should have recommended is, abolish all tax concessions for super, abolish the means test for the age pension so that even millionaires get the full pension, but then the retirees should pay the same tax as do the workers.

Yours truly
Mr.W.Hawil


Crikey, I haven't checked any of the figures or assumptions in this - but it is a real eye opener!

Thanks for posting it!
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Reply #2 - Aug 20th, 2010 at 10:05pm
 
Equitist, this was a letter to the editor of the AFR, and he made sure it did not get published, because the people have no idea what the politicians and media barons are up to.
I once read a letter from a reader to the editor, saying millionaires should not be paid the old-age pension, and as I found the name of the writer in the phone book, I took the liberty and rang her, when I told her that millionaires do not want the age pension, because the tax concessions are worth alot more, she was stunned, saying I never knew that.
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Reply #3 - Aug 20th, 2010 at 10:23pm
 
Yes, the GALP have really done a number on pensioners.
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Reply #4 - Aug 20th, 2010 at 10:32pm
 
hawil wrote on Aug 20th, 2010 at 10:05pm:
Equitist, this was a letter to the editor of the AFR, and he made sure it did not get published, because the people have no idea what the politicians and media barons are up to.
I once read a letter from a reader to the editor, saying millionaires should not be paid the old-age pension, and as I found the name of the writer in the phone book, I took the liberty and rang her, when I told her that millionaires do not want the age pension, because the tax concessions are worth alot more, she was stunned, saying I never knew that.


Hawil, writing letters only to newspapers will get you nowhere.
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Hawil, writing letters only to newspapers will get you
Reply #5 - Aug 21st, 2010 at 6:10pm
 
Soren what would you suggest? I,am too old too go on rioting, but I think in another 20 years time there will be a lot of riots in Australia, because of the wealth gap.
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