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Reply #15 - Aug 19th, 2010 at 6:06pm
 
65 used to be "old" when life expectancy was about 75.  Nowadays, people are living into their 90's. How do you expect to survive for 30 years on the Age Pension of $250 a week? No holidays, just drudge and sausages and mash for eons.  Grin
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Reply #16 - Aug 19th, 2010 at 6:09pm
 
White Dove wrote on Aug 19th, 2010 at 6:06pm:
65 used to be "old" when life expectancy was about 75.  Nowadays, people are living into their 90's. How do you expect to survive for 30 years on the Age Pension of $250 a week? No holidays, just drudge and sausages and mash for eons.  Grin


It's called saving, putting money aside. The aged pension is a bit more than $250 a week, it works out to be around $350.55 a week - I have lived on less than that for the past three years, and it's not that hard once you know how to budget.
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Reply #17 - Aug 19th, 2010 at 9:17pm
 
A couple of things to consider?


First, the insurance industry has shown the linkage between earlier retirement and living longer.

Basically, the earlier one retires, the longer you live.

The longer you leave reirement, the earlier you die!

From memory, the figures were those who retired at 55, lived on average to around 85, whereas those who worked until 65 or longer, were lucky to make it to 70.

Second, there will be many who will find they are unable to retire, early or at all, particularly following the return of the GFC and substantial declines in wealth, due to plummeting share & housing prices.

Whilst we (in OZ) have so far avoided the worst of the GFC, that situation will change during the next 12 months, starting probably around this October.

That said, many in other parts of the world, in particular the USA & Europe, are already find things tough and the resumption of falling share prices & housing prices, will literally rule out retirement altogether, for many in the USA & Europe.

We, in Australia, are about to find out what many overseas have already experienced and whether it is Labor or Liberal that win this weekend, they will not be able to change the basic direction of Global ( & OZ) Economics, but they may be able to make a difference, at the margins.

This time IS DIFFERENT!

I guarantee we will see changes, but we may not like them?
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Reply #18 - Aug 19th, 2010 at 9:28pm
 
Second, this has NOTHING to do with retirement age...

If you wish, you can retire and access your Superannuation Fund any time AFTER you turn 55..

The only change mentioned in the OP is the eligible age for a Government Old Age Pension....
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Reply #19 - Aug 19th, 2010 at 11:09pm
 
gizmo_2655 wrote on Aug 19th, 2010 at 9:28pm:
Second, this has NOTHING to do with retirement age...

If you wish, you can retire and access your Superannuation Fund any time AFTER you turn 55..

The only change mentioned in the OP is the eligible age for a Government Old Age Pension....


If share markets & housing both decline by 50%, how many people will have sufficient funds to retire, at 55 or 65 or 75?
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Reply #20 - Aug 20th, 2010 at 6:42am
 
perceptions_now wrote on Aug 19th, 2010 at 11:09pm:
gizmo_2655 wrote on Aug 19th, 2010 at 9:28pm:
Second, this has NOTHING to do with retirement age...

If you wish, you can retire and access your Superannuation Fund any time AFTER you turn 55..

The only change mentioned in the OP is the eligible age for a Government Old Age Pension....


If share markets & housing both decline by 50%, how many people will have sufficient funds to retire, at 55 or 65 or 75?



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Reply #21 - Aug 20th, 2010 at 7:34am
 
perceptions_now wrote on Aug 19th, 2010 at 11:09pm:
gizmo_2655 wrote on Aug 19th, 2010 at 9:28pm:
Second, this has NOTHING to do with retirement age...

If you wish, you can retire and access your Superannuation Fund any time AFTER you turn 55..

The only change mentioned in the OP is the eligible age for a Government Old Age Pension....


If share markets & housing both decline by 50%, how many people will have sufficient funds to retire, at 55 or 65 or 75?


Well since all most all super funds invest in the mining industry, which has been in 'boom' conditions for the last 10 years at least, and since by law all employers have to contribute to employees superannuation schemes.....
basically anyone who signed up for the superannunation scheme when they started their job (which has been part of the employee paperwork at the last 5 jobs I had) should have enough money in their various super funds to manage to live comfortable for  7-12 years after retirement....
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