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Reply #90 - Nov 28th, 2010 at 7:07am
 
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/north-korea-issues-chilling-warning-over-us-south-korea-war-games/story-e6frg6so-1225962038838

North Korea issues chilling warning over US-South Korea war games

NORTH Korea's state media warned today that "no-one can predict the ensuing consequences" if a US carrier group goes ahead with a planned drill with South Korea in the Yellow Sea.

The Korean Central News Agency (KCNA) statement came days after the hardline communist regime sharply heightened regional tensions with an artillery attack that killed two marines and two civilians on a South Korean border island.

The nuclear-powered aircraft carrier the USS George Washington and its battle group plans four days of exercises starting today with a flotilla of South Korean warships in a show of force meant to deter Pyongyang.

The KCNA report labelled the United States “the arch-criminal who orchestrated the recent military clash”, in which South Korea on Tuesday returned artillery fire at the North.

The report repeated Pyongyang's claim that it attacked in response to South Korea conducting a military exercise that lobbed shells into waters that the North regime regards as its own.
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Reply #91 - Nov 28th, 2010 at 7:17am
 
Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Nov 28th, 2010 at 6:39am:
it_is_the_light wrote on Nov 28th, 2010 at 6:27am:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwFHIR3KDbQ&feature =rec-exp_fresh+div-1r-52

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sth korea admits they fired first



Yes. They have admitted that, so why is the west not chastising SOUTH Korea? Just like Israel and Palestine, the Jews can do no wrong in the eyes of the west, the west being America and their little lap dog(us).

I'm not really a fan of North Korea by any means, they're a nasty regime, but lets not be sucked in by the propaganda machine.



You guys are really funny....
South Korea admitted they fired shells during a military exercise, and that the shells were NOT aim at, nor did they land near, North Korea....

So South Korea fired guns inside their OWN territory.....and you think that gives North Korea the right to fire over the border???
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Reply #92 - Nov 28th, 2010 at 7:22am
 
gizmo_2655 wrote on Nov 28th, 2010 at 7:17am:
Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Nov 28th, 2010 at 6:39am:
it_is_the_light wrote on Nov 28th, 2010 at 6:27am:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwFHIR3KDbQ&feature =rec-exp_fresh+div-1r-52

RT NEWS

sth korea admits they fired first



Yes. They have admitted that, so why is the west not chastising SOUTH Korea? Just like Israel and Palestine, the Jews can do no wrong in the eyes of the west, the west being America and their little lap dog(us).

I'm not really a fan of North Korea by any means, they're a nasty regime, but lets not be sucked in by the propaganda machine.



You guys are really funny....
South Korea admitted they fired shells during a military exercise, and that the shells were NOT aim at, nor did they land near, North Korea....

So South Korea fired guns inside their OWN territory.....and you think that gives North Korea the right to fire over the border???




When South Korea started firing, did any shelling land in North Korea at all?

Or even close (whatever that distance is) to the border?
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Reply #93 - Nov 28th, 2010 at 7:24am
 
research for yourself how close

what would australia do if indo was this close?

you may wonder
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Reply #94 - Nov 28th, 2010 at 7:25am
 
Miss Anne Dryst wrote on Nov 28th, 2010 at 7:22am:
gizmo_2655 wrote on Nov 28th, 2010 at 7:17am:
Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Nov 28th, 2010 at 6:39am:
it_is_the_light wrote on Nov 28th, 2010 at 6:27am:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwFHIR3KDbQ&feature =rec-exp_fresh+div-1r-52

RT NEWS

sth korea admits they fired first



Yes. They have admitted that, so why is the west not chastising SOUTH Korea? Just like Israel and Palestine, the Jews can do no wrong in the eyes of the west, the west being America and their little lap dog(us).

I'm not really a fan of North Korea by any means, they're a nasty regime, but lets not be sucked in by the propaganda machine.



You guys are really funny....
South Korea admitted they fired shells during a military exercise, and that the shells were NOT aim at, nor did they land near, North Korea....

So South Korea fired guns inside their OWN territory.....and you think that gives North Korea the right to fire over the border???




When South Korea started firing, did any shelling land in North Korea at all?

Or even close (whatever that distance is) to the border?




When carrying out military exercises do you think that it would have been wise to advise North Korea of this?

Does the US advise China/Russia of similar exercises when they are close to their borders (whether naval or with an ally)?
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Reply #95 - Nov 28th, 2010 at 7:28am
 
Miss Anne Dryst wrote on Nov 28th, 2010 at 7:22am:
gizmo_2655 wrote on Nov 28th, 2010 at 7:17am:
Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Nov 28th, 2010 at 6:39am:
it_is_the_light wrote on Nov 28th, 2010 at 6:27am:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwFHIR3KDbQ&feature =rec-exp_fresh+div-1r-52

RT NEWS

sth korea admits they fired first



Yes. They have admitted that, so why is the west not chastising SOUTH Korea? Just like Israel and Palestine, the Jews can do no wrong in the eyes of the west, the west being America and their little lap dog(us).

I'm not really a fan of North Korea by any means, they're a nasty regime, but lets not be sucked in by the propaganda machine.



You guys are really funny....
South Korea admitted they fired shells during a military exercise, and that the shells were NOT aim at, nor did they land near, North Korea....

So South Korea fired guns inside their OWN territory.....and you think that gives North Korea the right to fire over the border???




When South Korea started firing, did any shelling land in North Korea at all?

Or even close (whatever that distance is) to the border?


The South Korean navy fired shells into the ocean in the opposite direction to the North Korean coastline...

So they shot at empty ocean....
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Reply #96 - Nov 28th, 2010 at 7:30am
 
Miss Anne Dryst wrote on Nov 28th, 2010 at 7:25am:
Miss Anne Dryst wrote on Nov 28th, 2010 at 7:22am:
gizmo_2655 wrote on Nov 28th, 2010 at 7:17am:
Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Nov 28th, 2010 at 6:39am:
it_is_the_light wrote on Nov 28th, 2010 at 6:27am:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwFHIR3KDbQ&feature =rec-exp_fresh+div-1r-52

RT NEWS

sth korea admits they fired first



Yes. They have admitted that, so why is the west not chastising SOUTH Korea? Just like Israel and Palestine, the Jews can do no wrong in the eyes of the west, the west being America and their little lap dog(us).

I'm not really a fan of North Korea by any means, they're a nasty regime, but lets not be sucked in by the propaganda machine.



You guys are really funny....
South Korea admitted they fired shells during a military exercise, and that the shells were NOT aim at, nor did they land near, North Korea....

So South Korea fired guns inside their OWN territory.....and you think that gives North Korea the right to fire over the border???




When South Korea started firing, did any shelling land in North Korea at all?

Or even close (whatever that distance is) to the border?




When carrying out military exercises do you think that it would have been wise to advise North Korea of this?
Does the US advise China/Russia of similar exercises when they are close to their borders (whether naval or with an ally)?


They HAD told North Korea....
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It's similar to a strawman fallacy"
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Reply #97 - Nov 28th, 2010 at 7:36am
 
gizmo_2655 wrote on Nov 28th, 2010 at 7:30am:
Miss Anne Dryst wrote on Nov 28th, 2010 at 7:25am:
Miss Anne Dryst wrote on Nov 28th, 2010 at 7:22am:
gizmo_2655 wrote on Nov 28th, 2010 at 7:17am:
Ex Dame Pansi wrote on Nov 28th, 2010 at 6:39am:
it_is_the_light wrote on Nov 28th, 2010 at 6:27am:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwFHIR3KDbQ&feature =rec-exp_fresh+div-1r-52

RT NEWS

sth korea admits they fired first



Yes. They have admitted that, so why is the west not chastising SOUTH Korea? Just like Israel and Palestine, the Jews can do no wrong in the eyes of the west, the west being America and their little lap dog(us).

I'm not really a fan of North Korea by any means, they're a nasty regime, but lets not be sucked in by the propaganda machine.



You guys are really funny....
South Korea admitted they fired shells during a military exercise, and that the shells were NOT aim at, nor did they land near, North Korea....

So South Korea fired guns inside their OWN territory.....and you think that gives North Korea the right to fire over the border???




When South Korea started firing, did any shelling land in North Korea at all?

Or even close (whatever that distance is) to the border?




When carrying out military exercises do you think that it would have been wise to advise North Korea of this?
Does the US advise China/Russia of similar exercises when they are close to their borders (whether naval or with an ally)?


The South Korean navy fired shells into the ocean in the opposite direction to the North Korean coastline...

So they shot at empty ocean....



They HAD told North Korea....




If thats so, then really NK have initiated the firing havent they.
As SK were internal with no threat to NK.

Who backs the NK again (China, Russia or both)
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Reply #98 - Nov 29th, 2010 at 6:49am
 
http://www.infowars.com/north-korea-deploys-missiles-targets-fighter-jets/

North Korea Deploys Missiles, Targets Fighter Jets
                                     
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North Korea upped the ante on Sunday as South Korea and the United States conduct military exercises described as a show of force in response to North Korea’s artillery bombing of South Korea’s Yeonpyeong Island last week.

North Korea’s missiles “appear to be targeting our fighter jets that fly near the Northern Limit Line (NLL),” a source told the Yonhap New Agency. The Soviet-designed SA-2 missile has a range of between 13 and 30 kilometers. “The military is preparing for the possibility of further provocations as the North Korean military has deployed firepower near the NLL and is preparing to fire,” the source said.

Other missiles on the North Korean west coast, such as the Samlet and Silkworm with ranges of up to 95km, have also been put onto launch pads, the source said.
The Hoguk series of exercises that began earlier this month in South Korea include 70,000 South Korean troops. Exercises built around the USS George Washington carrier battle group in the Yellow Sea began Sunday. The Pentagon claims both sets of exercises are built around deterrence and are in response to the sinking of the Cheonan.
In August, the Obama administration used the Cheonan incident as a pretext to impose additional economic sanctions on North Korea. On May 20, South Korea officially blamed North Korea for the sinking of its warship in March. Investigators from Australia, Britain, Sweden and the United States arrived at the conclusion that North Korea sunk the vessel with a torpedo. Investigators said the torpedo was likely of German manufacture.
“There are suspicions that the US Navy SEALS maintains a sampling of European torpedoes for sake of plausible deniability for false flag attacks,” investigative journalist Wayne Madsen wrote in May. “Also, Berlin does not sell torpedoes to North Korea, however, Germany does maintain a close joint submarine and submarine weapons development program with Israel.”

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Reply #99 - Nov 29th, 2010 at 6:59am
 
http://www.infowars.com/odd-couple-north-korea-america/

Odd Couple: North Korea & America
                                    
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On March 26, 2010, the ROKS Cheonan is hit by what appears to be a German-made torpedo, sinks while claiming the lives of 46 South Korean sailors. The world, America at the lead, was quick to point its finger at North Korea before South Korea itself ruled them out as a suspect. North Korea adamantly insisted it was not behind the attack, and despite their paranoid and isolated posture little beyond insanity could serve as a motive.

Despite evidence adding up otherwise, to no one’s surprise a joint “international” investigation by the US, UK, South Korea, Australia, Canada, and Sweden would later conclude that a North Korean submarine was the culprit, leaving even South Koreans skeptical.
During this period of time, America’s position in Asia Pacific was already waning. Endless war in Central Asia and the Middle East, along with deepening economic crisis in the West allowed other actors to begin eying the seemingly inevitable void soon to be left. Japan under then Prime Minister Yukio Hatoyama, began reasserting itself over unpopular US military installations scattered throughout the nation. China was continuing to expand its economic and diplomatic influence in the region, luring in even America’s traditional allies like Australia and Thailand.
The sinking of the ROKS Cheonan then “serendipitously” served as a reminder as to why America claims their troops and influence are needed in the region for “peace and security.” The Korean Won tumbled as the US Dollar was temporarily bolstered and Japanese PM Hatoyama not only conceded to US demands regarding US installations, but would also resign over the matter. Literally citing the mysterious, still unsolved sinking of the Cheonan, Washington insisted its need to reassert itself in Asia to counter North Korea, if not for any other reason.
North Korea, either out of shadowy complicity or because of its paranoid predictable nature, became America’s greatest ally in many ways.
November 2010, a similar scenario is playing out after the recent artillery exchange between North and South Korea which claimed several lives. America was again bolstered in its highly tenuous position not only in Asia as a whole, but on the Korean Peninsula itself, having been rebuffed on the US-Korean FTA and facing the possibility of US banking interests meeting with Tobin taxes in the Korean markets.
South Korean leadership now admits they were conducting joint US-Korean live fire exercises close to highly contested waters in the Yellow Sea before the exchange took place. North Korea maintains this incident was intentionally provoked, as was the sinking of the Cheonan, as contrived incidents of opportunity for the waning American empire to reassert itself.
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Reply #100 - Nov 29th, 2010 at 7:03am
 
Is this going to escalate out of control?
Should China have "told" the USA to stay out?
Would the USA have sent troops?
Will the USA send troops now after being "told" not to?
And will Australia be asked to support the USA and send troops?
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Reply #101 - Nov 29th, 2010 at 7:23am
 
Miss Anne Dryst wrote on Nov 29th, 2010 at 7:03am:
Is this going to escalate out of control?
Should China have "told" the USA to stay out?
Would the USA have sent troops?
Will the USA send troops now after being "told" not to?
And will Australia be asked to support the USA and send troops?



What's this, a repeat of the Spanish inquisition?
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Reply #102 - Nov 29th, 2010 at 8:45am
 
King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia has repeatedly urged the United States to attack Iran to destroy its nuclear programme, according to leaked US diplomatic cables that describe how other Arab allies have secretly agitated for military action against Tehran.
The revelations, in secret memos from US embassies across the Middle East, expose behind-the-scenes pressures in the scramble to contain the Islamic Republic, which the US, Arab states and Israel suspect is close to acquiring nuclear weapons. Bombing Iranian nuclear facilities has hitherto been viewed as a desperate last resort that could ignite a far wider war.

The Saudi king was recorded as having "frequently exhorted the US to attack Iran to put an end to its nuclear weapons programme", one cable stated. "He told you [Americans] to cut off the head of the snake," the Saudi ambassador to Washington, Adel al-Jubeir said, according to a report on Abdullah's meeting with the US general David Petraeus in April 2008.
The cables also highlight Israel's anxiety to preserve its regional nuclear monopoly, its readiness to go it alone against Iran – and its unstinting attempts to influence American policy. The defence minister, Ehud Barak, estimated in June 2009 that there was a window of "between six and 18 months from now in which stopping Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons might still be viable". After that, Barak said, "any military solution would result in unacceptable collateral damage."

The leaked US cables also reveal that:

• Officials in Jordan and Bahrain have openly called for Iran's nuclear programme to be stopped by any means, including military.

• Leaders in Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates and Egypt referred to Iran as "evil", an "existential threat" and a power that "is going to take us to war".

• Robert Gates, the US defence secretary, warned in February that if diplomatic efforts failed, "we risk nuclear proliferation in the Middle East, war prompted by an Israeli strike, or both".

• Major General Amos Yadlin, Israeli's military intelligence chief, warned last year: "Israel is not in a position to underestimate Iran and be surprised like the US was on 11 September 2001."

Asked for a response to the statements, state department spokesman PJ Crowley said today it was US policy not to comment on materials, including classified documents, which may have been leaked.

Iran maintains that its atomic programme is designed to supply power stations, not nuclear warheads. After more than a year of deadlock and stalling, a fresh round of talks with the five permanent members of the UN security council plus Germany is due to begin on 5 December.

But in a meeting with Italy's foreign minister earlier this year, Gates said time was running out. If Iran were allowed to develop a nuclear weapon, the US and its allies would face a different world in four to five years, with a nuclear arms race in the Middle East. King Abdullah had warned the Americans that if Iran developed nuclear weapons "everyone in the region would do the same, including Saudi Arabia".

America is not short of allies in its quest to thwart Iran, though some are clearly more enthusiastic than the Obama administration for a definitive solution to Iran's nuclear designs. In one cable, a US diplomat noted how Saudi foreign affairs bureaucrats were moderate in their views on Iran, "but diverge significantly from the more bellicose advice we have gotten from senior Saudi royals".

In a conversation with a US diplomat, King Hamad bin Isa al-Khalifa of Bahrain "argued forcefully for taking action to terminate their [Iran's] nuclear programme, by whatever means necessary. That programme must be stopped. The danger of letting it go on is greater than the danger of stopping it." Zeid Rifai, then president of the Jordanian senate, told a senior US official: "Bomb Iran, or live with an Iranian bomb. Sanctions, carrots, incentives won't matter."

In talks with US officials, Abu Dhabi crown prince Sheikh Mohammad bin Zayed favoured action against Iran, sooner rather than later. "I believe this guy is going to take us to war ... It's a matter of time. Personally, I cannot risk it with a guy like [President Mahmoud] Ahmadinejad. He is young and aggressive."

In another exchange , a senior Saudi official warned that Gulf states may develop nuclear weapons of their own, or permit them to be based in their countries to deter the perceived Iranian threat.

No US ally is keener on military action than Israel, and officials there have repeatedly warned that time is running out. "If the Iranians continue to protect and harden their nuclear sites, it will be more difficult to target and damage them," the US embassy reported Israeli defence officials as saying in November 2009.

There are differing views within Israel. But the US embassy reported: "The IDF [Israeli Defence Force], however, strikes us as more inclined than ever to look toward a military strike, whether launched by Israel or by us, as the only way to destroy or even delay Iran's plans." Preparations for a strike would likely go undetected by Israel's allies or its enemies.

The Israeli prime minister, Binyamin Netanyahu, told US officials in May last yearthat he and the Egyptian president, Hosni Mubarak, agreed that a nuclear Iran would lead others in the region to develop nuclear weapons, resulting in "the biggest threat to non-proliferation efforts since the Cuban missile crisis".
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Reply #103 - Nov 29th, 2010 at 11:13am
 
I also believe we need to do something about Iran.

We cannot allow Iran to continue to hold nuclear strik capability.

It directly threatens Israel and stability in an important region.
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Reply #104 - Nov 29th, 2010 at 11:20am
 

Andrei.Hicks wrote on Nov 29th, 2010 at 11:13am:
I also believe we need to do something about Iran.

We cannot allow Iran to continue to hold nuclear strik capability.

It directly threatens Israel and stability in an important region.


Sadly and ironically, such action against Iran would probably trigger WWIII...


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