who is "they"?  Millions of people work in China for poverty level wages and are housed in corporate concrete bunkers for the privilege, while China has the largest sovereign wealth fund in the world. It doesn't seem to be like the workers there are going to be paid the same as western workers any time soon, and if there is a protest about it, there is a military response from the government it seems.
Is that what you want to live with in Australia? 
You might get that here one day, it can happen.
The best days in living memory in Australia were some decades ago, it was absolutely wonderful. It is not the same place now as it was then, and it doesn't seem to me to be getting any better at all.
Good luck.

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I refuse to accept this as our impending doom, and furthermore, I know "we'll" be ok, but what about those we'll leave behind in the ruins of what could become a 3rd world country?

Some 3rd world countries will argue that it's humbling, merely cyclic, that what goes around comes around and has done so throughout the ages of human evolution, though I think we should stop ancestrally torturing and limiting ourselves, I really think we can do better.

Is it possible to make things better for everyone, is it just a matter of 'faith' this and to stop being so pessimistic and short sighted.

Will the average human lifespan have to increase to 500 years before we begin long term planning the best interest of our own selfish selves before we begin seeing any real progress?

Perhaps like all primal self limiting organisms, it's entrenched in our gluttonous DNA to engulf and sustain ourselves like viral predators  on an agar dish until extinction?

I know we are a plague, and know that in spite of our having evolved from bacteria and being by our own grandiose definition, 'intelligent life-form' I genuinely question this sometimes, this and wonder  if indeed we have mutated into a self limiting hybrid organism with an attention deficit disorder, incapable of controlling our own  self preservationist and destructive impulses.

Because even bacteria will endeavour towards sustaining itself and even it's offspring, perhaps we just mutated back into intelligent dinosaurs or something.


It's times like these I thank god I'm an atheist.

I don't want to know what I am, or what I will be, or what consequences my own species actions might have on those we leave behind after spending an eternity in hell regretting the errors of our ways in what would otherwise be some kinda parallel existence to the paradise we knowingly and wilfully corrupted.

Far easier to rot in the ground and at least satisfy the worms.

Worms don't judge!


Sorry about this... it's just the hatred of ones own flesh somewhat appeases the distaste I have for my own colony,  I'll stop the theatrics now, just had to get it off my chest.

 

shampain socialist wrote on Aug 13^th, 2010 at 2:51pm:


I will.

...  It will take more than one individual to bring about positive change, I know this, and I'm always happy to help wherever possible.

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Except that Hyundai China don't export cars to Australia.

BTW. A seed for an oak tree costs about $0.01, yet last week I saw a nice oak roll top desk for $2100. Suddenly your Chinese Hyundai seems like excellent value.

some politicians actually know how to be proper politicians, believe it or not. They are not all dumb-asses.
The problem is actually that you get people going into politics who have no idea of how to run a country or tame the bureaucracy, they are more often just egotists or career social climbers.

I never said that politicians are dump, because that would make us voters even dumber, but it is hard to find a politcian who is really honest, and maybe that is the publics fault.
I'am sick and tired to listen to  the current politicians, they must think we are all idiots, yet most of them will not answer tough questions, and i wrote dozens or maybe hundreds of letters and e-mails to them.

shampain socialist wrote on Aug 13^th, 2010 at 6:06pm:


I noticed this too when he was on the ABC last night.
I think the silver old fox has died his hair a little, or darkened it slightly in parts to appeal to a more youthful semi-intellectual left-wing audience at his Latrobe campaign pit stop the day before.

Either that or he was very unwell the last time we saw the old lush mumbling in his beer about preference votes and how he didn't really agree with his parties decision to preference full stop.

......  Perhaps some of those Latrobe uni students youthful skin-oils plumped up his skin, gave him a bit of a gloss.

Oil of OLatrobe?

Who knows, but I have to hand it to him... this and wouldn't mind getting a few skin care tips off him either.